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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Subject | Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)? |
| Date | 2025-09-02 04:02 +0000 |
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:46:46 -0700, Mike Easter wrote :
> I don't have the same focus or interest as you, but I try to learn from
> exploring some of the aspects of 'where you are going'.
>
> The subject of socks5 vs VPN is interesting. Surprisingly a service that
> sells socks5 service has a pretty good discussion and seems 'balanced'
> rather than biased for socks5.
>
> Then, one can turn to various other sources to try to learn about free
> socks5 vs paid socks5. Those sources seem to say that 'generally' there
> is a great deal of diff.
>
> You tend to prioritize the 'free' aspect of things, and I can
> 'sympathize' w/ that because I'm of a very frugal nature myself, and
> even MORE importantly, the complexity of being able to pay for some
> anonymous persona w/ anonymous connectivity is another level of privacy
> than just seeking out those avenues which do not require any
> 'registration' type identity which comes along w/ non-free.
>
> In any case, while you have your 'free' characteristic turned on high, I
> believe you have to balance that w/ a significant degree of skepticism.
> Some people are excessively skeptical of anything free; but I don't
> think excess is a good thing.
>
> https://www.proxyrack.com/blog/socks5-vs-vpn/
>> Socks5 Vs. VPN - What’s the Difference?
>
> You have to go elsewhere to find out 'what's wrong w/ free socks5'.
This is all good information, where I spent all day today on this topic.
To be clear, I never touched this stuff until Epic Privacy Browser died on me in early July so all this is completely new to me for building a socks5 proxy that is FAST and FREE and requires no registration (for privacy).
The beauty of socks5 is it's fast.
The beauty of VPN is it's complete.
There's no reason you can'd to both.
1. First run socks5 and then VPN, or,
2. FIrst run VPN and then socks5.
Ask me how I know that it works. :)
Anyway, I spent all day cleaning up the flow, so I decided to post my
latest update (as of today - which is how I spent my vacation) below.
I hope this helps others, although it's complicated stuff.
If only Windows didn't suck so bad with proxies.
And if only Mozilla & Chromium didn't suck so bad with proxies.
Sigh. All this work because Mozilla & Chromium & Windows sucks for proxies.
<https://psiphon.ca/>
<https://psiphon.ca/en/download-store.html?psiphonca>
Name: psiphon3.exe
Size: 10402576 bytes (10158 KiB)
SHA256: DB1BAF76F0333F4743919A86F35037559F9E7DA7DF14982DFC16FB8DC0BE6BE2
Install location C:\apps\network\proxy\{psiphon,sockscap,freecap}\
Software archives C:\software\network\proxy\{psiphon,sockscap,freecap}\
Pullout menu C:\menus\network\proxy\{psiphon,sockscap,freecap}\
Once you run psiphon3 free socks proxy, you start thinking of all the ways
Windows sucks at proxies, and then you try to fix each of those ways.
Sigh.
Below is what took me all day today to build a modular proxy control system
that handles all three Windows proxy layers: WinINET, WinHTTP, and
PAC/AutoDetect. It launches Psiphon, waits for proxy ports to initialize,
and then runs pac.cmd to sync everything.
Because they hate encryption, the PAC file bypasses Gmail, Amazon, &
Copilot domains, while routing all other traffic through Psiphon's SOCKS
proxy.
These scripts support diagnostic modes, silent execution, & full reset
functionality. Since I love the Windows "App Paths" registry key, I've also
optionally integrated App Paths for seamless Win+R launching, and included
clear usage instructions, versioning, and logging.
It might not be perfect, but I designed it to be portable, maintainable, &
extensible. I'm sure there is more to do, but I'm done for today.
================================================================
Step 1: Launch Psiphon
Step 2: Wait for proxy ports to initialize
Step 3: It will then run pac.cmd to sync WinHTTP & apply PAC
Optionally run proxy.cmd for diagnostics & configuration
================================================================
To run "proxy.cmd" using the Windows taskbar-pinned "Win+R" RunBox:
Runbox > pac
Which calls the named App Paths key
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\pac.exe
Default=C:\data\sys\apppath\link\pac.lnk
Rightclick C:\data\sys\apppath\link\pac.lnk > Properties
TARGET=C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c "C:\data\sys\batch\pac.cmd"
================================================================
To run "pac.cmd" using the Windows taskbar-pinned "Win+R" RunBox:
Runbox > pac
Which calls the named App Paths key
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\pac.exe
Default=C:\data\sys\apppath\link\pac.lnk
Rightclick C:\data\sys\apppath\link\pac.lnk > Properties
TARGET=C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c "C:\data\sys\batch\pac.cmd"
================================================================
psiphon3.lnk
TARGET=C:\data\sys\batch\psiphon-launch.cmd
Win+R > gvim C:\data\sys\batch\psiphon-launch.cmd
@echo off
REM psiphon-launch.cmd v1.1 ¡X 20250901
REM Launch psiphon3.exe freeware & apply 3-way proxy sync/PAC
REM C:\data\sys\batch\psiphon-launch.cmd
REM Step 1: Launch Psiphon (which only syncs 1 of 3 Windows proxy types)
REM Step 2: Wait for proxy ports to initialize
REM Step 3: Run PAC setup (sync + PAC logic)
REM Note there are 3 different Windows proxy types. Sigh.
REM Type 1: WinINET ¡X used by IE, Edge (legacy), MS Office & most apps
REM Type 2: WinHTTP ¡X used by system services like Windows Update
REM Type 3: PAC/AutoDetect ¡X used by browsers like Chrome, Edge, & Firefox
REM (but Mozilla browsers have to be set first to respect system proxies).
if not exist "C:\app\network\psiphon\psiphon3.exe" (
echo ERROR: Psiphon executable not found.
exit /b
)
start "" "C:\app\network\psiphon\psiphon3.exe"
REM Wait a few seconds for Psiphon to initialize
timeout /t 5 /nobreak >nul
if not exist "C:\data\sys\batch\pac.cmd" (
echo ERROR: pac.cmd not found.
exit /b
)
REM Run PAC setup silently
start "" "C:\data\sys\batch\pac.cmd" /silent
================================================================
Win+R > gvim C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.pac
/* proxy.pac v1.0 ¡X 20250901
Bypasses proxy for:
- *.google.com, *.gmail.com, *.amazon.com
- *.copilot.microsoft.com
All other traffic routed through SOCKS proxy at 127.0.0.1:1080
*/
function FindProxyForURL(url, host) {
// Bypass Gmail and Google services
if (shExpMatch(host, "*.google.com") ||
shExpMatch(host, "*.gmail.com") ||
shExpMatch(host, "mail.google.com")) {
return "DIRECT";
}
// Bypass Amazon
if (shExpMatch(host, "*.amazon.com") ||
shExpMatch(host, "amazon.com")) {
return "DIRECT";
}
// Bypass Microsoft Copilot-related domains
if (shExpMatch(host, "*.copilot.microsoft.com") ||
shExpMatch(host, "*.bing.com") ||
shExpMatch(host, "*.microsoft.com")) {
return "DIRECT";
}
// Everything else goes through Psiphon SOCKS proxy
return "SOCKS 127.0.0.1:1080";
}
================================================================
Win+R > gvim C:\data\sys\batch\pac.cmd
@echo off
REM pac.cmd v1.5 ¡X 20250901
REM Sync WinHTTP proxy & apply PAC logic for selective domain bypass
REM Used after Psiphon starts to align all three Windows proxy layers
REM ---------------------------------------------------------------
REM Step 1: Sync WinINET proxy into WinHTTP (used by system services)
REM Step 2: Apply PAC script & enable Auto-Detect (used by browsers)
REM ---------------------------------------------------------------
REM Usage:
REM pac Sync WinHTTP & apply PAC
REM pac /silent Suppress final pause
REM pac /status Show current proxy settings
REM pac /test Run diagnostics only
REM pac /nopac Disable PAC & Auto-Detect
REM pac /help Show usage instructions
REM ---------------------------------------------------------------
REM --- /help flag: show usage instructions ---
if /i "%~1"=="/help" (
echo Usage:
echo pac Sync WinHTTP & apply PAC
echo pac /silent Suppress final pause
echo pac /status Show current proxy settings
echo pac /test Run diagnostics only
echo pac /nopac Disable PAC & Auto-Detect
echo pac /help Show usage instructions
exit /b
)
REM --- Log start ---
echo [%DATE% %TIME%] Running pac.cmd >> C:\data\sys\logs\proxy.log
REM --- Check for proxy.cmd ---
if not exist "C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd" (
echo ERROR: proxy.cmd not found.
exit /b
)
REM --- /status: show proxy diagnostics only ---
if /i "%~1"=="/status" (
start "" "C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd" /silent /status
exit
)
REM --- /test: alias for /status ---
if /i "%~1"=="/test" (
echo Running proxy diagnostics only...
start "" "C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd" /silent /status
exit
)
REM --- /nopac: disable PAC & Auto-Detect ---
if /i "%~1"=="/nopac" (
echo Disabling PAC & Auto-Detect...
start "" "C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd" /silent /nopac
exit
)
REM --- Step 1: Sync WinINET into WinHTTP ---
echo Running proxy sync...
powershell -Command "Start-Process -FilePath 'cmd.exe' -ArgumentList '/c
\"C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd\" /sync' -NoNewWindow -Wait"
REM --- Step 2: Apply PAC logic ---
echo Applying PAC logic...
powershell -Command "Start-Process -FilePath 'cmd.exe' -ArgumentList '/c
\"C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd\" http://127.0.0.1/proxy.pac' -NoNewWindow
-Wait"
REM --- PAC summary for user ---
echo PAC logic: Bypassing proxy for Gmail, Amazon, & Copilot domains.
echo All other traffic routed through SOCKS proxy at 127.0.0.1:1080
REM --- Final pause unless /silent ---
if /i "%~1"=="/silent" (
exit
)
echo.
echo Press Enter to close...
pause >nul
exit
================================================================
Win+R > gvim C:\data\sys\batch\proxy.cmd
@echo off
REM proxy.cmd v1.8 ¡X 20250901
REM Unified Windows proxy diagnostic + configuration tool
REM Supports: WinINET proxy, WinHTTP proxy, PAC/AutoDetect
REM ---------------------------------------------------------------
REM Usage:
REM Win+R > proxy Run normally
REM Win+R > proxy /help Show usage instructions
REM Win+R > proxy /sync Sync WinINET proxy into WinHTTP
REM Win+R > proxy http://url.pac Set PAC URL
REM Win+R > proxy /nopac Disable PAC & Auto-Detect
REM Win+R > proxy /status Check status only
REM Win+R > proxy /reset Clear all proxy settings
REM Win+R > proxy /silent Suppress final pause
REM Win+R > proxy /silent /sync Combine flags
REM ---------------------------------------------------------------
REM Proxy Types:
REM Type 1: WinINET ¡X used by IE, Edge (legacy), MS Office & most apps
REM Type 2: WinHTTP ¡X used by system services like Windows Update
REM Type 3: PAC/AutoDetect ¡X used by Chrome, Edge, & optionally Firefox
REM Firefox must be set to "Use system proxy settings" to honor PAC
REM ---------------------------------------------------------------
REM --- /help flag: show usage instructions ---
if /i "%~1"=="/help" (
echo Usage:
echo proxy Run normally
echo proxy /sync Sync WinINET proxy into WinHTTP
echo proxy http://... Set PAC URL
echo proxy /nopac Disable PAC & Auto-Detect
echo proxy /status Show current proxy settings
echo proxy /reset Clear all proxy settings
echo proxy /silent ... Suppress final pause
exit /b
)
REM --- Log command to proxy.log ---
set LOG=C:\data\sys\logs\proxy.log
echo [%DATE% %TIME%] %cmdcmdline% >> %LOG%
REM --- Begin scoped environment ---
setlocal
set KEY="HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings"
REM --- Detect /silent flag & shift argument list ---
if /i "%~1"=="/silent" (
set SILENT=1
shift
)
REM --- /reset: clear all proxy settings ---
if /i "%~1"=="/reset" (
echo Resetting all proxy settings...
reg delete %KEY% /v ProxyEnable /f >nul 2>&1
reg delete %KEY% /v ProxyServer /f >nul 2>&1
reg delete %KEY% /v AutoConfigURL /f >nul 2>&1
reg add %KEY% /v AutoDetect /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f >nul
netsh winhttp reset proxy >nul 2>&1
echo All proxy settings cleared.
goto SHOWCONFIG
)
REM --- /status: show current proxy configuration ---
if /i "%~1"=="/status" (
echo Displaying current proxy configuration...
goto SHOWCONFIG
)
REM --- /sync: copy WinINET proxy into WinHTTP ---
if /i "%~1"=="/sync" (
echo Syncing WinINET proxy into WinHTTP...
netsh winhttp import proxy source=ie
echo Done.
goto SHOWCONFIG
)
REM --- /nopac: disable PAC & Auto-Detect ---
if /i "%~1"=="/nopac" (
echo Disabling PAC & Auto-Detect...
reg delete %KEY% /v AutoConfigURL /f >nul 2>&1
reg add %KEY% /v AutoDetect /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f >nul
echo PAC & Auto-Detect disabled.
goto SHOWCONFIG
)
REM --- Set PAC URL if provided ---
if not "%~1"=="" (
echo Setting PAC script URL: %~1
reg add %KEY% /v AutoConfigURL /t REG_SZ /d %~1 /f >nul
reg add %KEY% /v AutoDetect /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f >nul
)
REM --- Diagnostic output block ---
:SHOWCONFIG
echo ==============================================
echo WINDOWS PROXY CONFIGURATION SET/CHECK/FIX
echo ==============================================
REM --- WinINET proxy status ---
echo.
echo [1] WinINET / Internet Settings
for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v ProxyEnable 2^>nul')
do set ProxyEnable=%%B
for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v ProxyServer 2^>nul')
do set ProxyServer=%%B
if "%ProxyEnable%"=="0x1" (
echo Proxy is ENABLED
echo Proxy server: %ProxyServer%
) else (
echo Proxy is DISABLED
)
REM --- WinHTTP proxy status ---
echo.
echo [2] WinHTTP proxy (system/background services)
for /f "tokens=1,* delims=:" %%A in ('netsh winhttp show proxy ^| findstr
/R /C:"Proxy Server(s)"') do set curWinHTTP=%%B
set curWinHTTP=%curWinHTTP:~1%
if "%curWinHTTP%"=="" (
echo No WinHTTP proxy set ¡X importing from WinINET...
netsh winhttp import proxy source=ie >nul 2>&1
) else (
echo WinHTTP proxy already set ¡X leaving as is.
)
netsh winhttp show proxy
REM --- PAC / AutoDetect status ---
echo.
echo [3] PAC / AutoDetect
for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v AutoConfigURL
2^>nul') do set PACurl=%%B
for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v AutoDetect 2^>nul')
do set AutoDetect=%%B
if defined PACurl (
echo PAC script set: %PACurl%
) else (
echo No PAC script URL found.
)
REM --- PAC logic summary if using proxy.pac ---
if /i "%PACurl%"=="http://127.0.0.1/proxy.pac" (
echo PAC logic: Bypassing proxy for Gmail, Amazon, & Copilot domains.
echo All other traffic routed through SOCKS proxy at 127.0.0.1:1080
)
if "%AutoDetect%"=="0x1" (
echo Auto-detect is ENABLED
) else (
echo Auto-detect is DISABLED
)
echo.
echo ==============================================
echo Windows proxy set/check/fix complete.
echo ==============================================
endlocal
REM --- Final pause unless /silent ---
if not defined SILENT (
echo.
echo Press Enter to close...
pause >nul
)
exit
================================================================
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