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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? |
| Date | 2025-08-13 21:21 +0000 |
| Organization | BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:51:15 -0400, -hh wrote : > desperately want to pretend >> "slower charging" equals "wrong", when that is very obviously complete >> and utter bullshit. > > Wait until they go out to finally buy an actual new car ... > > ... and they learn that floor mats are optional equipment Why would anyone pay over a thousand bucks for a phone designed for fast charging, and then put a far-below-minimum-standards 5W brick on it? <https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/power-adapters-iph8c1e31583/ios> "For fast charging, iPhone 12, iPhone SE (3rd generation), and later models require a power adapter with a minimum power output of 20 Watts, such as the Apple 20W USB power adapter." Note that Apple (yet again) brazenly lied to everyone in October 2020 about why they removed the charger and still raised the selling price. <https://hellosmartlife.com/why-dont-iphones-come-with-chargers/> Apple never tells the truth, except in court, and we now know from the contempt decision, that even in court Apple brazenly lies to them. Apple lied left and right about why they removed the basic functionality. "Apple is also removing the power adapter and EarPods from iPhone packaging, further reducing carbon emissions [which is a lie] and avoiding the mining and use of precious materials [which is another lie], which enables smaller and lighter packaging, and allows for 70 percent more boxes to be shipped on a pallet." [which increases Apple's profits] <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252030616?sortBy=rank> The fact is Apple never bundled a 20W USB-C charger (i.e., the one required for fast charging on modern iPhones) with any iPhone model. Even before the iPhone 12, and even after. Apple lied that everyone had the right charger. In the box with iPhones came were 5W USB-A chargers, which were slow and outdated by the time fast charging became standard. Worse, the USB-C to Lightning cable included with newer iPhones couldn't even be used with older Apple chargers unless users bought a new adapter. So when Apple said users already had the right chargers, they lied. Apple always removes basic functionality so that you must buy it back.
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Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 19:48 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 20:38 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 22:16 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Rick <Rick@nospam.net> - 2025-08-12 09:56 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:59 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-11 17:28 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-12 01:01 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 01:34 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-12 19:26 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-12 20:59 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 21:22 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:40 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 21:41 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 15:22 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 23:06 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:21 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-13 19:06 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 15:51 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:55 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:38 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:43 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:41 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:19 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:32 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 15:37 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 08:30 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:41 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:48 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 19:36 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 12:49 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:59 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 16:07 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 13:16 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 20:43 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:46 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:11 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:14 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 21:13 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:11 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 10:25 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:19 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:55 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 12:01 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:38 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 13:48 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:37 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 10:04 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-16 13:37 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 22:37 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-16 15:50 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 06:45 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:06 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:53 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:03 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 11:19 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:24 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 17:23 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 19:57 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 11:00 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:43 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 15:45 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 13:26 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-19 10:54 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 21:58 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 20:04 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:52 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 18:35 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:38 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:27 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:44 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 18:12 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:06 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:42 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 08:23 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:42 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:46 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 22:47 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 16:20 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-14 23:47 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 23:54 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:04 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:47 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 15:55 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:40 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:45 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:29 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 10:13 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:31 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 20:53 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 09:36 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:37 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 01:16 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 09:18 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:43 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 07:02 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 13:49 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 11:07 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 15:50 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:37 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:36 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 07:25 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:23 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:42 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 10:04 -0700
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