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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? |
| Date | 2025-08-12 11:07 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 2025-08-12 10:49, -hh wrote:
> On 8/12/25 09:43, badgolferman wrote:
>> On 08/12/2025 09:18, -hh wrote:
>>> On 8/11/25 16:38, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Marion wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>> What if you switched carriers and they gave you an iPhone for "free"?
>>>> Would that change the ownership cost?
>>>
>>> Good catch. His logical fallacy here is that he's trying to believe
>>> that the "free" had zero strings attached, instead of its true costs
>>> being hidden/obfuscated.
>>>
>>> Of course companies know this, which is why they do the 'free' bit, for
>>> the simple reason that some consumers are fooled by it, such as here.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Personally I don't purchase AppleCare or all those peripherals. I do
>>>> pay for 50GB back up services at $0.99/mo. and share that with my
>>>> wife's account.
>>>
>>> Same; the $1/mo is a slippery slope for upsell opportunities, but for
>>> those who can appropriately understand that and value, paying $12/year
>>> isn't any sort of meaningful risk.
>>>
>>>
>>>> When I bought my iPhone 14 from T-mobile they "paid" for it with
>>>> monthly discounts on my bill. When I found out I needed a special
>>>> charger at an additional price I pushed the phone back at them and got
>>>> up to leave. That's when they put a new charger on the phone and
>>>> pushed it back toward me.
>>>
>>> Interesting ... what was this supposedly "special" charger?
>>
>> It was the Apple branded 20W fast charger. They told me the phone is
>> designed for a different charger and won't get it's full potential
>> without the new charger.
>
> Sounds like what you're saying that a T-Mobile salesman deceived you.
>
> In any event, there's been different wattage output chargers for awhile,
> and 'fast' chargers really only make a difference if one isn't charging
> overnight.
Precisely. Charging only needs to be fast enough to charge the device to
the level required for an individual's use case.
For me, that's an 80% charge I can easily get overnight which will then
let me use my iPhone all day.
:-)
>
> To be honest, I barely pay attention to the different power levels ...
> size when packing is usually more important to me. The exception are
> chargers which I have paired with wireless charging pads, but as I say,
> "paired": the ones at home are never swapped around and the new one
> that I have for use on the road has its own dedicated setup, including
> its own carry bag that it gets stowed in.
Pretty much the same thinking for me.
The last charger I bought came as part of an Anker MagSafe stand I use
to charge my phone overnight. The charger is 40W, and according to the
specs the stand can charge the phone at 15W (and it has a pad on its
base for wireless charge of my AirPods).
A 2-pack of such chargers is now selling for $21CAD on Amazon, so this
is just not something to waste much time thinking about.
>
>
>>> I'm wondering if it was your first new phone since Apple discontinued
>>> including a charger+cable in the box (which was the iPhone 12), as the
>>> 14 still used Lightning, so it wasn't the Lightning-USB-C transition.
>>
>> I think they discontinued providing the charger and cable before the
>> iPhone 12, but maybe I'm wrong. But yes, I went from the 12 to the 14.
>> I started out with the 4 and have had almost every type in between.
>> Some have been corporate phones and some personal phones. Currently I
>> have two 14 models.
>
> When that news came out, I was a bit perturbed about it, but in
> retrospect, it was because I didn't have a plethora of spare chargers
> and cables yet. Similarly, I've stopped worrying about paying $10 for a
> cable, especially since I've stopped buying the lousy Apple OEM ones
> which have a poor stress relief design...I can now pretty easily get a
> year out of one cable before it starts to fail.
This is one thing I've never understood.
I get years out of cables, pretty much regardless of the design of their
strain relief.
>
>
>>> FYI, the good news is that chargers/cables have become cheap enough
>>> again to provision a few spares. Amazon currently has on sale an Anker
>>> charger ("Anker USB C Charger Block, 33W 2 Port Compact Charger"): $15
>>> for black, or $19 for white. Its a dual output port ... USB-A and -C.
>>>
>>> Similarly, for post-Lightning cables, one can currently get a two-pack
>>> of 1m USB-C/-C cables for $9, or a pair of 2m lengths for $13. Again,
>>> both are Anker, which I've found to be modestly better than Apple.
>>
>> Yes, of course one charger is not enough so I've had to buy more. That
>> includes car chargers. My wife has a 15 model so I had to buy chargers
>> and cables for her.
>
> FWIW, what I'm starting to do now is to stage my transition for future
> iOS devices being on USB-C instead of Lightning. It started when I
> stumbled across a USB-C cable which included ~1" long adapter plugs that
> allow for the same cable to be -Lightning and to -microUSB. Since then,
> I've found that these little adapters can be purchased separately too:
> look for ones which include tiny little lanyards that allow them to be
> attached to the cable so as to not get lost.
That last is very useful!
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-11 17:28 -0700
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:21 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-13 19:06 +0000
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:55 -0700
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:41 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:19 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:32 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 15:37 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 08:30 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:41 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:48 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 19:36 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 12:49 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:59 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 16:07 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 13:16 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 20:43 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:14 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 21:13 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:11 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 10:25 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:19 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:55 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 12:01 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:38 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 13:48 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:37 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 10:04 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-16 13:37 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 22:37 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-16 15:50 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 06:45 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:06 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:53 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:03 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 11:19 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:24 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 17:23 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 19:57 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 11:00 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:43 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 15:45 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 13:26 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-19 10:54 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 21:58 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 20:04 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:52 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 18:35 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:38 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:27 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:44 +1200
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 18:12 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:06 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:42 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 08:23 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:42 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:46 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 22:47 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 16:20 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-14 23:47 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 23:54 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:04 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:47 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 15:55 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:40 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:29 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 10:13 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:31 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 20:53 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 09:36 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:37 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 01:16 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 09:18 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:43 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 07:02 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 13:49 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 11:07 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 15:50 -0400
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:37 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:36 -0700
Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 07:25 -0400
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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:42 +0000
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