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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? |
| Date | 2025-08-11 14:20 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 8/11/25 11:33, Marion wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 20:45:15 -0400, -hh wrote : > > >> Gosh, that's a lot of deflecting words to try to distract from the point >> of the reality of financial constraints. > > It's refreshing that -hh actually owns critical thinking skills. > This critical-thinking process is rather uncommon for Apple trolls. > > To his point, I said in my *first* response that you insure that which you > can't afford to replace. If you're so destitute that you can't even afford > to replace your phone, then maybe it would be worth it to pay twice for > that phone (which is what the warranty costs) not to have to pay to replace > it. To which you were told that you were wrong, because you were shown that there's more valid reasons than only 'affordability'. >>> BMW engineers are atrocious at building the complete system. >>> But BMW engineers are some of the best in the world in designing suspension >>> systems and drive trains. >> >> Nope. You're conflating design intent with designer skill or quality. > > Again, you own critical thought processes. > While BMW 525i cupholders, seats tilts, Behr expansion tankss, CCV valves & > Dormand window regulators are legendary for failing - all in the same way > for everyone, the drivetrain & suspension is also legendary for > performance. Failing ... but at what point in the product lifecycle? > It's not that BMW engineers don't have the skill. > They're just not paid to think the whole system through. > > They're paid to make only some parts legendary. > So marketing can sell people on *those* components. Incorrect: you're trying to impose your own criteria after the fact, and with little/no awareness of other design factors or constraints. Common ones here are cost & weight. > BMW is all marketing and very little overall system quality after all. > Sound familiar?For you, since you've already failed at holistic system analysis. /s >>> Compare that to a Toyota. >>> Big difference. >> >> Because of a different design intent, partly due to Deming. > > Interesting you attribute Toyota Production Systems (aka Lean > Manufacturing) to W. Edwards Deming who Shoichiro Toyoda once said there > wasn't a day he didn't think about how Dr. Deming influenced their quality. > > At Toyota, every component is engineered for longevity and integration. Nope, that's not Lean nor Deming. Better go back to Google more. > BMW prioritizes performance and driving dynamics too often at the expense > of long-term reliability in non-drivetrain systems. Nah, that's your personal *belief* of what design trades they're making. And while I did say "if your BMW is broken down all the time, blame its mechanic", its more astute to blame the mechanic & owner, as they're showing that they're not willing to support maintenance expenses. Its an object, so everything's a wear item; see "Ship of Theseus" -hh
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Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 04:03 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 21:32 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 11:38 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 17:51 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 19:55 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 07:07 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:01 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 13:05 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-06 22:22 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-06 16:04 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-07 16:02 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:04 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-07 22:55 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 10:37 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-08 09:06 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 10:29 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-08 18:32 +1200
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-08 09:16 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-09 10:24 +1200
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 10:24 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 09:54 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-08 16:00 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 23:05 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-09 14:56 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-10 22:41 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-10 17:11 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-10 20:45 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 15:33 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-11 14:20 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 20:17 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-11 19:33 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 01:40 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 09:05 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 17:27 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 14:29 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:54 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-14 17:21 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:40 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 16:08 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 11:21 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-07 16:11 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 10:57 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-27 09:41 +1200
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-26 16:18 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 09:47 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 08:40 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 09:07 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-27 09:37 +1200
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-07 11:14 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:02 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 10:06 -0400
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 15:34 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-13 11:25 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 11:46 -0700
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-13 19:07 +0000
Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 12:34 -0700
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