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Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone?

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject	Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone?
Date	2025-08-11 15:33 +0000
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 20:45:15 -0400, -hh wrote :

 
> Gosh, that's a lot of deflecting words to try to distract from the point 
> of the reality of financial constraints.

It's refreshing that -hh actually owns critical thinking skills.
This critical-thinking process is rather uncommon for Apple trolls. 

To his point, I said in my *first* response that you insure that which you
can't afford to replace. If you're so destitute that you can't even afford
to replace your phone, then maybe it would be worth it to pay twice for
that phone (which is what the warranty costs) not to have to pay to replace
it.

But given how much the Apple extended warranty costs, paying twice for a
phone is no different financially than buying the phone if you lost it.

The only difference is in the lump sum payment versus paying every month.


>> BMW engineers are atrocious at building the complete system.
>> But BMW engineers are some of the best in the world in designing suspension
>> systems and drive trains.
> 
> Nope.  You're conflating design intent with designer skill or quality.

Again, you own critical thought processes. 
While BMW 525i cupholders, seats tilts, Behr expansion tankss, CCV valves &
Dormand window regulators are legendary for failing - all in the same way
for everyone, the drivetrain & suspension is also legendary for
performance.

It's not that BMW engineers don't have the skill.
They're just not paid to think the whole system through.

They're paid to make only some parts legendary.
So marketing can sell people on *those* components.

BMW is all marketing and very little overall system quality after all.
Sound familiar?

>> Compare that to a Toyota.
>> Big difference.
> 
> Because of a different design intent, partly due to Deming.

Interesting you attribute Toyota Production Systems (aka Lean
Manufacturing) to W. Edwards Deming who Shoichiro Toyoda once said there
wasn't a day he didn't think about how Dr. Deming influenced their quality.

At Toyota, every component is engineered for longevity and integration. 

BMW prioritizes performance and driving dynamics too often at the expense
of long-term reliability in non-drivetrain systems. Perhaps an analagous
personality would be Christopher Weil (who emphasized BMW's "design DNA" of
the kidney grill and Hofmeister kink) or Kai Langer (who emphasized the
technical lighthouse of the sculptural aesthetic).
 <https://www.bmw.com/en/freude/the-bmw-hofmeister-kink.html>

Toyota: Function over form.
BMW: Form over function.

Back to the topic of the extended warranty, it's obvious why herd animals
would buy whatever the mothership tells them to buy, where in the end, they
end up buying every iPhone twice. 

Meanwhile, I had my free Galaxy replaced by T-Mobile. Twice. Always free.
This is all well discussed over the years in the Android newsgroup.

There's a reason I consider Apple marketing the best in the world.

Thread

Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 04:03 +0000
  Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-25 21:32 -0700
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 11:38 -0400
      Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 17:51 +0000
        Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 19:55 -0700
        Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 07:07 -0400
          Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
          Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
        Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:01 -0400
          Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-29 22:42 +0000
            Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 13:05 -0400
              Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-06 22:22 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-06 16:04 -0700
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-07 16:02 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:04 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-07 22:55 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 10:37 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-08 09:06 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 10:29 -0700
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-08 18:32 +1200
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-08 09:16 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-09 10:24 +1200
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 10:24 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 09:54 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-08 16:00 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 23:05 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-09 14:56 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-10 22:41 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-10 17:11 -0700
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-10 20:45 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 15:33 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-11 14:20 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 20:17 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-11 19:33 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 01:40 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 09:05 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 17:27 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 14:29 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:54 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-14 17:21 +0000
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:40 -0700
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 16:08 -0400
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 11:21 +0000
              Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-07 16:11 -0700
                Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 10:57 +0000
      Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-27 09:41 +1200
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-26 16:18 +0000
      Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 09:47 -0700
  Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 08:40 -0400
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-26 09:07 -0700
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-07-27 09:37 +1200
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-07 11:14 -0700
  Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:02 -0400
  Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 10:06 -0400
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 15:34 +0000
    Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-13 11:25 -0700
      Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 11:46 -0700
        Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-13 19:07 +0000
          Re: Why would anyone buy an extended warranty on a phone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 12:34 -0700

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