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Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)?

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:50 -0700, Mike Easter wrote :


>> But how many of us have actually used a crypto coin in our lives?
>> I haven't.
>> 
>> Have you?
> 
> I have not.


Me neither. But there was a time when none of us used Usenet, but we
learned. And a time when none of us knew what VPN was, but we learned. And
a time when none of us knew AI but we are learning, etc.

So maybe it's time to learn how to buy one dollar's worth of crypto.
That's a future tutorial I will likely write - but that's for later.

> But I have enough 'academic' interest in this privacy 
> business that I would consider 'devising' an anonymous persona, 
> including that persona having a cellphone/number/account.

I think it's a great idea, to create an anonymous persona.
 a. Burner phone
 b. Burner email
 c. Burner crypto

Once you have the phone, the burner email becomes much simpler.
But I don't have a clue what privacy is entailed for burner crypto.
Probably a burner OS? (e.g., Tails?) (running inside a burner VM?)

That would be a great privacy tutorial for Windows/Linux/Mac users!
 Tutorial for creating a burner persona on the Internet

> There is also a problem about strategies to use that coin to pay for 
> things; not all useful providers accept the type of coin one might want; 
> you have to have one of /these/ kinds of coins to pay for one of /those/ 
> kinds of coins because the provider doesn't accept one of them.

Understood. Well, actually, I don't understand crypto at all, but I can
imagine that some crypto is more fluid than others for buying stuff.

You also need that stuff "shipped" to you somehow, if it's not virtual
stuff (like apps but even then, the apps have to run in a burner OS).

> So, while you are trying to puzzle out the free browser privacy 
> business, I'm trying to figure out paying for a connectivity provider 
> for/with a bogus persona.

I think it's a GREAT idea to learn how to create a burner persona.
As I said, I'll look into it, but for now, I have a bunch of projects.

There would be levels of burner, from high heat to just simmering, because,
for example, a physical burner phone you throw away after use is different
than a simulated burner phone via TextNow, Hushed, or Google Voice.

Luckily, we can factory reset the burner phone, which is kind of a medium
heat versus high heat being throwing it over a bridge, and low heat being
just running nothing but TextNow on that burner phone & then factory
resetting each time it's used and then getting a new TextNow number.

There is, of course, the problem of cell tower triangulation, and paying
for the cellular service (with the crypto, of course) in this sequence. 

> But, 'my' topic or interest is OFF topic for this Ffx group.

I think privacy is on topic for any software that touches the Internet.
But I agree that the browser is the topic for this particular newsgroup.

> For some 
> reason, it also seems off-topic in the privacy groups because those 
> people don't even like to use conventional agents to post to 
> conventional NSPs, so we are very far apart in our interests.

I don't really understand any newsgroup other than the operating system
newsgroups I frequent, but I did add "alt.privacy" to this thread but I do
not think there is anyone there listening so it's just us Firefox guys. :)

In summary, I think it's apropos for this newsgroup to discuss a DIY
privacy browser which starts with one of the Mozilla browsers, most likely
Mullvad or LibreFox just as it would be for Chromium-based browsers to
start with the likes of Brave or Ungoogled Chromium. 

I'm not sure if it's worth digging into WebKit based browsers as we already
know from the Tor folks that WebKit can never provide security or
anonymity, which is funny when you think of how Apple advertises it. 

However, as for your rather valid privacy project, I think it's apropos for
each of the three operating system newsgroups to set up Tails inside a VM.

Then, once you have Tails inside a VM, you add the privacy VPN.
Luckily that's trivial. Only then do you add this DIY privacy browser! 

But first, I have to finish the privacy browser on Chromium since that
turned out to be easier (surprisingly) than it seems to be for Mozilla.

Then I'll write the tutorial for the Mozilla-based DIY privacy browser.
Later, (much later?) we'll create the burner persona you seek.

Work with me on that - but we'll have to take it over to the OS newsgroups.
 From: Marion <marion@facts.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-11
 Subject: Long term project: Creating a privacy-based disposable burner persona on your desktop PC
 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 21:35:34 -0000 (UTC)
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