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Re: EU: public DNS resolvers?

From Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: EU: public DNS resolvers?
Date 2025-06-20 20:17 +0200
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Am 20.06.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Dr. Joachim Neudert:
> Am 20.06.25 um 14:23 schrieb Nomen Nescio:
>> Besser schlechtes Werkzeug als gar keines.
> 
> Bei Verschlüsselung? Nein, genau da nicht. Frag nach bei den 
> Geheimdiensten in WW1/WW2.

Puh! Kannst Du beweisen, daß gegenwärtige Verschlüsselungen wie bspw. 
AES sicher sind?

Nein, kannst Du nicht. Du kannst nur darauf vertrauen, daß AES sicher 
ist. Damit steckst Du in genau der gleichen Klemme, wie seinerzeit die 
Wehrmacht.

AES /gilt/ als sicher, weil kein erfolgreicher Angriff öffentlich 
bekannt ist. Das ist zwar schön hat aber, bei Licht betrachtet, auch 
nicht so besonders viel zu sagen.

Afaik beschäftigt die NSA eine ganze Reihe exzellenter Mathematiker. 
Was, wenn die einen praktikablen Angriff gefunden haben, diesen aber aus 
Gründen der nationalen Sicherheit streng geheim halten?

Wie lange haben die Briten ihr Ultra-Geheimnis bewahrt?

Am Krypto-Dilemma hat sich seit dem 2. WK nichts geändert. Damals wie 
heute beruht es ausschließlich auf Vertrauen - und ich fürchte, daran 
wird sich auch nichts ändern.

(Und jetzt komme bloß keiner mit OTP. Auch da gibt es genug, was falsch 
gemacht werden kann.)
-- 
"Möchte kurz angeben, hab gerade meine Bachelorarbeit mit ner 1.0 
bestanden. Bin jetzt valide Expertin für kapitalismuskritische 
frühkindliche Bildung, falls ihr sowas mal braucht."
https://x.com/jetteniz/status/1483479231384506368

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Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-06-13 15:27 +0200
  Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Friedrich Karl Siebert <f.k.siebert@online.de> - 2025-06-13 15:48 +0200
  Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2025-06-13 19:50 +0200
    Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-06-13 21:24 +0200
      Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-13 21:15 +0100
      Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-06-13 22:56 +0200
        Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-06-14 16:07 +0200
          Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-06-14 16:16 +0200
            Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-14 17:18 +0200
            Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2025-06-14 17:22 +0200
          Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-15 11:49 +0200
            Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-15 12:03 +0200
              Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-15 19:53 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-16 01:22 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-16 08:20 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-16 09:30 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-16 11:52 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-16 11:26 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-16 12:54 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-16 15:10 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-16 17:51 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-18 16:39 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-18 18:18 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-19 02:15 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-19 09:36 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-19 10:16 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-19 11:25 +0000
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-06-19 13:29 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-19 13:29 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-19 22:40 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-06-19 13:38 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-19 13:41 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-16 11:49 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-16 11:32 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-16 13:16 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-20 17:44 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-20 18:02 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 08:05 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-20 18:17 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 08:03 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-16 13:58 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-16 22:17 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-17 14:25 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-17 16:27 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-18 21:10 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2025-06-18 21:47 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-20 14:23 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-20 14:36 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-20 19:09 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 20:32 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-20 20:12 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 21:48 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2025-06-20 22:46 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 23:56 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2025-06-21 10:17 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-06-21 09:47 +0000
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2025-06-21 12:10 +0200
                Enigma, mal wieder (was:Re: EU: public DNS resolvers?) Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-21 15:22 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-21 15:54 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-21 16:15 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2025-06-21 16:55 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2025-06-21 17:00 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-21 17:52 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-21 20:39 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-21 20:57 +0200
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-06-22 06:22 +0000
                Re: Enigma, mal wieder Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-22 10:18 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 08:13 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-21 11:18 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 14:51 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-21 19:18 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 20:17 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-20 18:23 +0000
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-20 19:31 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-06-20 19:01 +0000
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 21:02 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-06-20 20:17 +0100
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 21:41 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 08:20 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-21 15:36 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 20:48 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-06-20 21:00 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 21:12 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-06-20 21:29 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-20 21:52 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-06-21 08:23 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2025-06-21 18:50 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-06-21 18:56 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2025-06-21 19:09 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 08:22 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-06-19 14:10 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 10:15 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-21 14:25 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 15:05 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-21 20:49 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-21 23:48 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-22 07:21 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-06-22 05:36 +0000
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-22 10:33 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-22 10:32 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-22 13:28 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-22 23:39 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-23 01:36 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-23 08:30 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-23 15:14 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-23 23:18 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-06-24 14:39 +0200
                Re: EU: public DNS resolvers? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-06-22 01:00 +0200

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