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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.os.linux |
| Subject | Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 |
| Date | 2022-03-04 22:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <0mbafi-8li.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | <svtge1$vja$1@gioia.aioe.org> <629afi-d8g.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <svttfj$450$1@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2022-03-04 21:40, The Real Bev wrote: > On 03/04/2022 12:23 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2022-03-04 17:57, Andy Burnelli wrote: ... >>> Do you have any solution that allows us to keep using a password in >>> an MUA? >> >> >> As you are setting the followup to alt.comp.software.thunderbird (which >> I ignored, of course), it means that you are only interested in an >> answer for Thunderbird. >> >> So, for Thunderbird, the solution is obvious: Use Oauth2, like it or not. >> >> Alternatively, use application passwords (a different password for each >> application). This requires you to active 2FA, which I know you dislike >> because it implies using your phone. >> >> Thus you can only stop using Google. > > So let me get this straight... I can keep using Thunderbird38 on my > computer with my gmail accounts as long as I implement Oauth2 (whatever > that is) and delete my stored passwords (which I just saved with an xv > screenshot). No. You need to change to a modern version of Thunderbird that does support Oauth2, and on the affected gmail account change security settings to connection security: ssl/tls authentication method: OAuth2 Alternatively, set up application passwords. > What about uploading photos to google photos? What about using google > maps? What about my saved places in google maps? What about those > things using my phone instead of my linux (or windows or laptop or other > people's computers) computer? Will they send me a text message with a > code to load in every single time I use a google app? As we are not in the phone forums, and this was posted to Windows and Linux forums instead, you are thus using a web browser to access any of that, so you are not affected. (In an android phone, you are already logged in to Google, so you are not affected, either) > > Personally, password security is perfectly acceptable to me -- if I were > plotting to overthrow the world perhaps I'd feel differently, but I > don't say a hell of a lot in email that I wouldn't be willing to post > publicly. I AM unwilling to pay T-Mobile a dime every time I need to > deal with a text message in order to deal with any google product. Your opinion, as mine, is irrelevant >:-P Anyway, the rationale is that Google is working for millions of people, not you, and that for millions of people their email is used to authenticate to many services remotely (say, Amazon, you bank, etc) and in those cases it is better to have secure defaults. It is a fact, so Google claims, that since they forced more secure defaults maybe a year ago successful attacks have been reduced significantly - but I have lost the source for this information. > > Is there a website that deals with the details of this travesty in detail? > -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Henk de Jong <newsgroup@nospam-hsdejong.nl> - 2022-03-04 18:55 +0100
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 21:23 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 12:40 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-04 20:49 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 12:57 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 22:10 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 14:39 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 23:51 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> - 2022-03-04 17:58 -0500
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 21:20 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:22 +0100
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:55 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2022-03-04 18:57 -0600
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:28 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:18 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:36 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 16:04 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 18:58 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 18:47 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 21:21 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:10 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-06 09:11 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-03-06 12:46 -0500
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-06 21:23 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-04 21:26 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 23:05 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 15:23 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:31 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:20 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:59 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2022-03-04 20:27 -0500
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:48 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:26 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:30 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 15:39 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 22:37 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-07-23 10:03 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 22:07 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2022-03-04 16:26 -0500
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 14:15 -0800
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 00:00 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:05 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:39 +0100
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:24 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:19 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:02 +0000
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