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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.os.linux |
| Subject | Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 |
| Date | 2022-03-04 12:40 -0800 |
| Organization | None, as usual |
| Message-ID | <svttfj$450$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <svtge1$vja$1@gioia.aioe.org> <629afi-d8g.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 03/04/2022 12:23 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2022-03-04 17:57, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Do you have a solution that allows us to keep using a passwd in an MUA?
>>
>> Did you get this message today in all your Google email accounts?
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/2yBvxJhJ/gmailpasswd02.jpg>
>
> No.
>
> Only in one account that is not associated with a phone. Not all.
>
>>
>> It implies Google is dropping third-party mail user agent passwd support.
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/MGfN2Z7r/gmailpasswd01.jpg>
>>
>> Verbatim:
>> "On May 30, you may lose access to apps that are using less secure
>> sign-in technology
>> To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support the
>> use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your
>> Google Account using only your username and password.
>> Instead, you'll need to sign in using Sign in with Google or other
>> more secure technologies, like OAuth 2.0."
>>
>> I'm sure I'm like others in that I do _not_ want to use my phone to
>> authorize anything (not text, not 2FA, not my IP, nothing). I simply want a
>> login and a password and I don't want anything more than only that.
>>
>> I'm not even sure if I want to use OATH2 (only if there is no other way).
>>
>> I don't use Google applications if I can help it, so I use 3rd party
>> MUAs on
>> all my platforms (K-9 Mail, Thunderbird, FairEmail, etc.).
>>
>> Do you have any solution that allows us to keep using a password in an MUA?
>
>
> As you are setting the followup to alt.comp.software.thunderbird (which
> I ignored, of course), it means that you are only interested in an
> answer for Thunderbird.
>
> So, for Thunderbird, the solution is obvious: Use Oauth2, like it or not.
>
> Alternatively, use application passwords (a different password for each
> application). This requires you to active 2FA, which I know you dislike
> because it implies using your phone.
>
> Thus you can only stop using Google.
So let me get this straight... I can keep using Thunderbird38 on my
computer with my gmail accounts as long as I implement Oauth2 (whatever
that is) and delete my stored passwords (which I just saved with an xv
screenshot).
What about uploading photos to google photos? What about using google
maps? What about my saved places in google maps? What about those
things using my phone instead of my linux (or windows or laptop or other
people's computers) computer? Will they send me a text message with a
code to load in every single time I use a google app?
Personally, password security is perfectly acceptable to me -- if I were
plotting to overthrow the world perhaps I'd feel differently, but I
don't say a hell of a lot in email that I wouldn't be willing to post
publicly. I AM unwilling to pay T-Mobile a dime every time I need to
deal with a text message in order to deal with any google product.
Is there a website that deals with the details of this travesty in detail?
--
Cheers, Bev
"If anyone disagrees with anything I say, I am quite prepared
not only to retract it, but also to deny under oath that I
ever said it." -- T. Lehrer
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-06 21:23 -0800
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 00:00 +0100
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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:24 +0000
Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:19 +0000
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