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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022
Date	2022-03-04 21:23 +0100
Message-ID	<629afi-d8g.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References	<svtge1$vja$1@gioia.aioe.org>

Cross-posted to 3 groups.

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On 2022-03-04 17:57, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Do you have a solution that allows us to keep using a passwd in an MUA?
> 
> Did you get this message today in all your Google email accounts?
> <https://i.postimg.cc/2yBvxJhJ/gmailpasswd02.jpg>

No.

Only in one account that is not associated with a phone. Not all.

> 
> It implies Google is dropping third-party mail user agent passwd support.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/MGfN2Z7r/gmailpasswd01.jpg>
> 
> Verbatim:
> "On May 30, you may lose access to apps that are using  less secure 
> sign-in technology
>   To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support  the 
> use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in  to your 
> Google Account using only your username and password.
>   Instead, you'll need to sign in using Sign in with Google  or other 
> more secure technologies, like OAuth 2.0."
> 
> I'm sure I'm like others in that I do _not_ want to use my phone to
> authorize anything (not text, not 2FA, not my IP, nothing). I simply want a
> login and a password and I don't want anything more than only that.
> 
> I'm not even sure if I want to use OATH2 (only if there is no other way).
> 
> I don't use Google applications if I can help it, so I use 3rd party 
> MUAs on
> all my platforms (K-9 Mail, Thunderbird, FairEmail, etc.).
> 
> Do you have any solution that allows us to keep using a password in an MUA?


As you are setting the followup to alt.comp.software.thunderbird (which 
I ignored, of course), it means that you are only interested in an 
answer for Thunderbird.

So, for Thunderbird, the solution is obvious: Use Oauth2, like it or not.

Alternatively, use application passwords (a different password for each 
application). This requires you to active 2FA, which I know you dislike 
because it implies using your phone.

Thus you can only stop using Google.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-04 16:57 +0000
  Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Henk de Jong <newsgroup@nospam-hsdejong.nl> - 2022-03-04 18:55 +0100
    Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:17 +0000
  Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2022-03-04 10:01 -0800
    Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:18 +0000
      Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2022-03-04 20:22 -0500
        Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:38 +0000
          Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Christian Riechers <chriechers@netscape.net.invalid> - 2022-03-05 13:30 +0100
            Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:47 +0000
  Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2022-03-04 19:41 +0100
    Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 PietB <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2022-03-04 20:41 +0100
  Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 21:23 +0100
    Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 12:40 -0800
      Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-04 20:49 +0000
        Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 12:57 -0800
          Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 22:10 +0100
            Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 14:39 -0800
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 23:51 +0100
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> - 2022-03-04 17:58 -0500
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 15:33 -0800
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2022-03-05 01:00 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2022-03-04 20:25 -0500
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 21:20 -0800
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:22 +0100
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2022-03-05 22:09 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:27 +0100
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2022-03-05 21:57 +1100
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 13:11 +0100
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2022-03-04 16:18 -0800
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:55 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2022-03-04 18:57 -0600
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:28 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:18 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:36 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 16:04 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 18:58 +0100
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 18:47 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 21:21 +0100
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:10 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-06 09:11 -0800
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-03-06 12:46 -0500
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-06 21:23 -0800
          Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-04 21:26 +0000
            Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 23:05 +0100
            Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 15:23 -0800
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:31 +0100
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:20 +0000
            Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:59 +0000
              Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2022-03-04 20:27 -0500
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:48 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 11:26 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:30 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-03-05 15:39 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 22:37 +0000
                Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-07-23 10:03 +0100
      Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-04 22:07 +0100
        Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2022-03-04 16:26 -0500
        Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 14:15 -0800
          Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 00:00 +0100
        Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:05 +0000
          Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-03-05 09:39 +0100
            Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 15:24 +0000
    Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 00:19 +0000
    Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022 Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-03-05 01:02 +0000

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