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Re: MacLINUX

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Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> writes:

> In article <mjlhyaz4x0.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
>  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> writes:
> > 
> > > In article <bk58kdF4k42U2@mid.individual.net>,
> > >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 2014-01-20, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:
> > > > > Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm pretty sure you're both saying essentially the same thing. At least
> > > > >> that's how I interpreted his statement. : )
> > > > >
> > > > > No, some of the commands are different. 
> > > > 
> > > > *sigh*...
> > > > 
> > > > Again, I think he was saying "Mac Linux" tongue-in-cheek. I'm not
> > > > suggesting he actually thinks Mac OS X is Linux. Rather, I think he is
> > > > suggesting that a large swath of the Mac OS X Unix environment is very
> > > > similar to many Linux distributions. This is actually the case. While
> > > > some things are indeed different, very many things are similar enough
> > > > that for many purposes, one can use Mac OS X for the same things for
> > > > which one might use Linux.  I don't see anyone here stating that Mac OS
> > > > X is exactly the same as Linux.
> > > > 
> > > > If that's not how you interpreted his statement, so be it.
> > > 
> > > This is an excellent business opportunity.  Port the Linux tools for 
> > > Rassberry Pi development to MacOS and sell them through the Mac Store.  
> > > That way you'll be doing your Rassberry Pi development, you'll have 
> > > working tools, and you might be making some money.  
> > > 
> > > Installing Linux on a Mac directly is a non-starter.
> > 
> > It really isn't that bad.  Admittedly it wasn't crystal clear how to
> > do everything, but it took me about an hour, and if I'd had the good
> > sense to take notes, I could have written a page of instructions making
> > it easy for anyone else.
> > 
> > Likely others have done this (written the instructions).
> 
> The instructions you posted say they don't work with all Mac models.  
> Which tells me that maybe the boot code is hardware specific and needs 
> to be tweeked depending on the Mac model.

Certainly one has to make sure that rEFIt (or rEFInd, which is the
other alternative) works on one's hardware.

I presume someone who is playing with a Pi is up to that.
 
> Doing specific partitioning and whatnot isn't really that much of a 
> problem, but I wonder if the OP can cope with that?

Certainly it would be useful to have a good set of instructions for
doing that.

At work we had a server crash in early October.  I'm not in the
computer support business, but it became clear that our support people
were not going to put a critical system back together in a timely way.

I took a three-year old spare iMac, and in about 4 hours, got it dual
booting OS X/Ubuntu Linux, installed our server software on it, transferred
the data from backup, and got it running (on a dynamic IP number, but
at least usably).

It ran under heavy use without a hiccup for about 10 weeks until there
was a lull and we could move it to another machine.

So I resist the idea that installing Linux directly on Apple hardware
is prohibitively difficult, though it isn't a job for someone who
knows nothing besides office software.

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MacLINUX Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-17 18:31 -0500
  Re: MacLINUX JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 18:38 -0500
    Re: MacLINUX Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-17 23:28 -0500
      Re: MacLINUX JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-18 00:18 -0500
  Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 17:40 -0800
    Re: MacLINUX Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-17 23:16 -0500
  Re: MacLINUX Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-17 22:37 -0800
    Re: MacLINUX isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-01-18 13:45 -0800
      Re: MacLINUX Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-18 17:01 -0800
      Re: MacLINUX Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:41 -0500
        Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 18:58 +0000
  Re: MacLINUX Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:52 -0500
    Re: MacLINUX Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-18 16:37 -0500
      Re: MacLINUX Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-18 14:35 -0800
        Re: MacLINUX Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 04:26 +0000
      Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 01:54 +0000
      Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:52 -0800
  Re: MacLINUX Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-20 14:57 +1100
    Re: MacLINUX "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2014-01-20 04:54 +0000
      Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 05:02 +0000
        Re: MacLINUX "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2014-01-20 09:34 +0000
          Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 18:35 +0000
            Re: MacLINUX "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2014-01-20 19:19 +0000
              Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 19:54 +0000
            Re: MacLINUX Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-20 13:13 -0800
              Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:04 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-20 14:10 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:25 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-20 18:38 -0500
                Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:45 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-01-21 12:26 -0500
                Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 17:41 +0000
                Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 10:24 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 20:48 +0000
                Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 12:55 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 21:20 +0000
                Re: MacLINUX Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 13:47 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-22 02:22 -0800
                Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:28 +0000
    Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 05:01 +0000
  Re: MacLINUX "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2014-01-20 19:19 +0000
    Re: MacLINUX Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 19:55 +0000

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