Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets

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Date	2016-04-21 13:40 -0700
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Subject	Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets
From	Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>

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On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 2:32:12 AM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/21/2016 1:14 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 10:24:51 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 4/20/2016 10:25 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 6:13:20 AM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 4/20/2016 4:46 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7:38:25 PM UTC+8, Poutnik Fornntp wrote:
> >>>>>> Dne středa 20. dubna 2016 11:12:08 UTC+2 Peter Riedt napsal(a):
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your formula absolute potential energy = GM*m/r in the form of the ratio
> >>>>>>> Aphelion:Perihelion=GM*m/Aphelion:GM*m/Perihelion
> >>>>>>> produces the identical results for the nine planets as my ratio
> >>>>>>> Aphelion:Perihelion=mass*G*heightaph:Aphelion*mass*G*heightper.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is not easier to to learn the things properly at first place ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PE(r) = integral[inf..r]  ( vec_F . vec_dr ) =
> >>>>>>          = integral[inf..r]  ( G.M.m/|r|^2 . vec_dr ) =
> >>>>>>          = - G.M.m/r
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (-GM*m/r)+(mass*G*height)=0. Occam's razor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Simple is no excuse for being wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>
> >>> Prove that my equation is not zero.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Data proves it wrong, Peter.
> >>
> >> We'll take just one example. Let's consider a 10.0 kg stone held 3.5 m
> >> above sea level at the equator.
> >> mass = m = 10.0 kg.
> >> height = 3.5 m
> >> r =  6,378,137 m + 3.5 m
> >> M = 5.972 × 10^24 kg
> >> G = 6.67408 × 10-11 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > The formula mgh of Leibniz uses little g (9.81 for earth, 274 for sun).
> >
> 
> But you did not write little g. You used big G and claimed that was the 
> right thing to do. You will notice that if you actually use the value of 
> bit G, your equation does not come out to zero. So your equation is 
> wrong, Peter. Simple (Occam's razor) is not an excuse for being wrong.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

It appears that mgh cannot be used in the context that I used it.

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Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-19 02:35 -0700
  Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 18:06 +0200
    Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-19 18:46 -0700
      Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 05:53 +0200
      Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 06:04 +0200
      Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 06:14 +0200
  Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik Fornntp <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 01:13 -0700
    Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-20 02:12 -0700
      Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik Fornntp <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 04:26 -0700
      Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik Fornntp <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 04:38 -0700
        Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-20 14:46 -0700
          Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 17:13 -0500
            Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-20 20:25 -0700
              Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 06:44 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 06:56 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-20 22:38 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 07:47 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 05:45 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik Fornntp <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 07:09 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 11:09 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 00:06 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 13:41 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 00:07 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 18:52 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:12 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-22 00:25 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 08:15 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 10:54 -0500
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 11:18 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 11:31 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 00:10 +0200
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 13:35 -0500
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 12:56 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 16:26 -0500
              Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 09:24 -0500
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 11:14 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 13:32 -0500
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-21 13:40 -0700
                Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 16:58 -0500
          Re: Distance/potential energy ratios of planets Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 06:37 +0200

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