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Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject	Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac?
Date	2018-11-09 21:07 -0500
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Message-ID	<091120182107140216%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
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In article <ps5e14$b9u$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> 
> The only real world way someone is going to be able to read that file 
> is if they have physical access to your computer and it's logged into 
> your user account (or your computer password is very simple to guess, 
> or you're stupid enough to have it written on a sticky note attache to 
> the display!).

wrong.

if someone has physical access to the computer, they don't need to log
in at all. 

either boot off an external drive or put the mac into target drive mode
and they'll have full access to *anything* on the drive.

unless of course, it's encrypted...

> The only possible exception is if you install software from a dodgy 
> source. For example, never click on a pop-up link in your web browser 
> that claims you need to update / install software (such as Flash or 
> Java). Even then the chances are extremely low.

wrong on that too.

clicking on a link makes the chances extremely *high* something bad
will be installed.

> 
> Even better, take it to an authorised Apple tech centre, but you'll be 
> paying money and the liklihood of them actually finding any problem is 
> basically zero.

wrong yet again.

apple stores don't charge anything.

> > But I've spoken with employees from my bank about this fraud attempt, 
> > and they advised me not to store my bank information on my computer, so 
> > that's another source of contradictory advice.
> 
> Bank employees, like most of the world (especially 'help' desk 
> operators), are all Windoze drones and have zero understanding of Apple 
> devices. In fact most 'help' desk operators have zero understanding of 
> anything and simply read off a script on their screen or do Google 
> searches for answers.   :-\

wrong once more. 

it's not an apple/windows issue.

storing private information, including bank logins and passwords, in an
unencrypted file is flat out stupid, regardless of platform.

either encrypt it, or better yet and has been suggested, use a password
manager which does the encryption for you and without the hassles.

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Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-07 21:59 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-11-08 12:31 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 13:51 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 17:10 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 20:55 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 00:23 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-09 11:03 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 14:15 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-09 22:53 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 15:01 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-10 21:22 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-10 19:56 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 18:09 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-12 13:34 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-13 14:00 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:42 -0400
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 12:25 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 14:14 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 19:22 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 18:42 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 19:36 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 18:42 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-16 08:02 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-16 12:10 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-17 09:40 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 13:42 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 16:49 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 17:43 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-19 18:31 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-25 18:47 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-26 18:38 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-16 08:15 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-17 09:46 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 14:31 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-19 14:38 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 17:58 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-17 14:17 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 18:06 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 14:09 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 20:11 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-15 18:30 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 13:07 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 14:11 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 13:11 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 14:19 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-10 01:18 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-10 19:52 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-11 16:49 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-11 14:32 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-11 22:38 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-12 13:27 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-13 21:19 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-14 18:38 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 13:24 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 14:23 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 19:14 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 18:41 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-16 08:07 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-17 09:43 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 13:33 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 16:40 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 14:39 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 20:28 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-19 14:33 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 20:35 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2018-11-19 07:25 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-20 07:55 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-25 18:54 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-19 14:30 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-25 19:01 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-25 19:09 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 09:44 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-09 17:18 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 20:22 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 14:59 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 21:07 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-09 22:23 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 08:38 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-10 20:25 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-11 23:48 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-12 10:44 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-12 23:43 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 10:24 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 16:56 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-10 23:11 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 19:18 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-11 16:41 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-11 11:48 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-11 18:58 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-11 14:17 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-11 21:10 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-12 13:04 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-13 13:51 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-10 01:19 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 12:33 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 15:46 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 13:59 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:10 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 19:04 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 18:44 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-16 08:12 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-17 09:37 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-16 14:26 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-15 19:09 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-17 14:21 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2018-11-17 07:40 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-18 09:53 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2018-11-18 09:19 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 10:09 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 12:59 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 13:03 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 16:11 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-18 14:46 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-19 14:20 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-12-08 22:29 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-12-09 19:40 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 20:28 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-12-08 22:26 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 15:36 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 20:00 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 23:18 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 20:39 -0800
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 23:44 -0500
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 15:59 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2018-11-08 18:47 +0000
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 08:10 +1300
Re: Is Keychain or any other program safe for storing sensitive data on a desktop Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
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