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  Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-26 21:25 +0100
    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-26 22:05 +0100
      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-27 09:30 +0100
        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2021-04-27 10:50 +0100
          Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-27 11:17 +0100
            Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-28 22:56 +0100
              Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-28 23:56 +0100
        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-27 15:14 +0100
          Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-27 15:19 +0100
          Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-27 15:33 +0100
            Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2021-04-28 10:50 +0100
              Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-28 12:48 +0100
              Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2021-04-28 12:52 +0100
                Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-28 13:35 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-28 14:31 +0100
                Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-28 14:28 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-28 15:01 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-28 18:15 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-28 18:47 +0100
                        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-28 23:51 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 20:26 +0100
                        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-28 23:55 +0100
                          Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-29 02:52 +0100
                            Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-29 19:58 +0100
        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2021-04-28 11:16 +0100
          Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-28 11:43 +0100
            Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-29 10:20 +0100
              Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-29 16:04 +0100
                Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-29 16:51 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-29 21:16 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-29 21:34 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-29 21:55 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 08:07 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-29 21:52 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-29 22:05 +0100
              Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2021-04-29 16:54 +0100
                Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 08:09 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 17:36 +0100
                Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 12:27 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-30 12:49 +0100
                Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 14:13 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-30 14:16 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-05-01 07:44 +0100
                  Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 17:53 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-30 18:20 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-05-01 07:48 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-05-01 07:46 +0100
                    Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-05-01 11:51 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-05-01 12:57 +0100
                      Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2021-05-02 09:51 +0100
                        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-05-02 10:11 +0100
                        Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Laurence Taylor <laurence@nospam.plus.com> - 2021-05-02 16:21 +0100
                          Re: Weird pulsating carrier on fm Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 17:43 +0100

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#57277

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 18:15:25, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> 
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>On 28/04/2021 15:01, charles wrote:
>
>> I found a hooting head amp in Kyleakin and passed the details on.  Worst
>> one was one of the "Home Office masts" sending a signal, that wiped out BBC
>> 1 in Kendal.
>
>Your job must have brought many moments of high amusement.
>
>Bill

Surely _your_ job had more moments of "high" amusement (and probably 
more of despair)!
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

/Downton Abbey/ presented a version of the past that appealed to anyone who
had ever bought a National Trust tea towel. - Alison Graham, RT 2015/11/7-13

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#57282

On 28/04/2021 20:26, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

>> Your job must have brought many moments of high amusement.
>>
>> Bill
> 
> Surely _your_ job had more moments of "high" amusement (and probably 
> more of despair)!

I think anyone who works with a cross-section of the public will end up 
with a long list of tales — comedy, drama, pathos, excitement, fear, and 
astonishment.

Bill

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#57284

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 23:55:44, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> 
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>On 28/04/2021 20:26, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>
>>> Your job must have brought many moments of high amusement.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>  Surely _your_ job had more moments of "high" amusement (and probably 
>>more of despair)!
>
>I think anyone who works with a cross-section of the public will end up 
>with a long list of tales — comedy, drama, pathos, excitement, fear, 
>and astonishment.
>
>Bill

I just meant that your job involved getting high (no, not in that 
sense!) more than most.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

What's awful about weird views is not the views. It's the intolerance. If
someone wants to worship the Duke of Edinburgh or a pineapple, fine. But don't
kill me if I don't agree. - Tim Rice, Radio Times 15-21 October 2011.

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#57303

On 29/04/2021 02:52, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> Surely _your_ job had more moments of "high" amusement (and probably 
>>> more of despair)!
>>
>> I think anyone who works with a cross-section of the public will end 
>> up with a long list of tales — comedy, drama, pathos, excitement, 
>> fear, and astonishment.
>>
>> Bill
> 
> I just meant that your job involved getting high (no, not in that 
> sense!) more than most.

Oh sorry John! Your humour is a little bit too rarefied for a simple 
aerial man!

Bill

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#57248

I live in Epsom. I tried it just now on a new radio from Lidl that
shows the frequency on its display. At 88.05MHz I get fair reception
of BBC Radio2 although the published frequency from Crystal Palace is
88.80MHz. At 88.00MHz I hear no strong carrier, only the vestiges of
Radio2 breaking through.
Regards,
Dave W

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 09:30:16 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>OK Here is Chessington in Surrey or London depending on your view.
> Its less than ten seconds and does not vary. I'm using an Icom 
>communications receiver so its pretty accurate.
> I've listened to it in am and FM, That is how I know there is a pirate 
>under it, but weaker, as I had considered a jammer.
> The wobble is as you would get if you were powering something up and then 
>turning it off, it eventually stabilises and there is very little if any hum 
>in am or fm.
>
>No the 88Mhz is far the most powerful carrier. I'm using a discone aerial, 
>which has no particular preference in its receiving properties between a 
>whole range of vhf frequencies, but may of course have some lobes  at 
>different frequencies that you may not be ale to discern.
>
>
>
>
>Its right on the edge or indeed inside the fm band, so is hardly going to be 
>coms related, unless it is some spurii generated by some piece of equipment 
>locally, but to have such a wide coverage it sounds like it has a proper 
>aerial or it would be patchy. Trying it on a cheapo portable fm set its 
>still present, so is not some artefact in the receiver either. I have proved 
>its not in my place by walking some distance away down the back ally.
> Brian

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#57249

In article <jtci8gp33aqr46vahagsg13nf8366fovv6@4ax.com>,
   Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I live in Epsom. I tried it just now on a new radio from Lidl that
> shows the frequency on its display. At 88.05MHz I get fair reception
> of BBC Radio2 although the published frequency from Crystal Palace is
> 88.80MHz. 

Guildford is on 88.1MHz for R2. Should be receivable in Epsom.

-- 
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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#57293

So that means you cannot hear a birdie switching on and off every few 
seconds then? I am beginning to suspect the industrial estate as the source, 
its definitely stronger in that direction.

VHF is difficult though, since it is often reflected by things.
 Brian

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"charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message 
news:592434eed5charles@candehope.me.uk...
> In article <jtci8gp33aqr46vahagsg13nf8366fovv6@4ax.com>,
>   Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> I live in Epsom. I tried it just now on a new radio from Lidl that
>> shows the frequency on its display. At 88.05MHz I get fair reception
>> of BBC Radio2 although the published frequency from Crystal Palace is
>> 88.80MHz.
>
> Guildford is on 88.1MHz for R2. Should be receivable in Epsom.
>
> -- 
> from KT24 in Surrey, England
> "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle 

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#57299

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 10:20:27, "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" 
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote (my responses usually follow points 
raised):
>So that means you cannot hear a birdie switching on and off every few
>seconds then? I am beginning to suspect the industrial estate as the source,
>its definitely stronger in that direction.
>
>VHF is difficult though, since it is often reflected by things.
> Brian
>
As an alternative to building a directional aerial and putting the 
receiver in a tin box, could you use detuning as a way of reducing its 
sensitivity so you can go hunting?

Though I still think you ought to be able to find some local club or 
similar: can anyone point Brian ("Chessington in Surrey or London 
depending on your view") at a local amateur radio society? Surely there 
must be something of the sort in that area.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

More people watch live theatre every year than Premier League football
matches. - Libby Purves, RT 2017/9/30-10/6

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#57300

In article <uUGL+Pn1rsigFwOf@255soft.uk>,
   J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 10:20:27, "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" 
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote (my responses usually follow points 
> raised):
> >So that means you cannot hear a birdie switching on and off every few
> >seconds then? I am beginning to suspect the industrial estate as the source,
> >its definitely stronger in that direction.
> >
> >VHF is difficult though, since it is often reflected by things.
> > Brian
> >
> As an alternative to building a directional aerial and putting the 
> receiver in a tin box, could you use detuning as a way of reducing its 
> sensitivity so you can go hunting?

> Though I still think you ought to be able to find some local club or 
> similar: can anyone point Brian ("Chessington in Surrey or London 
> depending on your view") at a local amateur radio society? Surely there 
> must be something of the sort in that area.

Brian only lives about a 20 minute drive from me, but I no longer have
access to suitable test gear - no Spectrum Analyser. :-(

-- 
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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#57304

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 16:51:06, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote 
(my responses usually follow points raised):
>In article <uUGL+Pn1rsigFwOf@255soft.uk>,
>   J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[]
>> As an alternative to building a directional aerial and putting the
>> receiver in a tin box, could you use detuning as a way of reducing its
>> sensitivity so you can go hunting?
>
>> Though I still think you ought to be able to find some local club or
>> similar: can anyone point Brian ("Chessington in Surrey or London
>> depending on your view") at a local amateur radio society? Surely there
>> must be something of the sort in that area.
>
>Brian only lives about a 20 minute drive from me, but I no longer have
>access to suitable test gear - no Spectrum Analyser. :-(
>
I remember doing "foxhunts" on a Sunday with the Southend and District 
Amateur Radio Society (1980s) with nothing more than the odd HB9CV, or 
loop - certainly no spectrum analysers!
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"... all your hard work in the hands of twelve people too stupid to get off
jury
duty." CSI, 200x

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#57305

On 29/04/2021 21:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> I remember doing "foxhunts" on a Sunday with the Southend and District 
> Amateur Radio Society (1980s) with nothing more than the odd HB9CV, or 
> loop - certainly no spectrum analysers!
> -- 

When my daughter was a kid I entertained her one evening by taking her 
on a hunt the pirate expedition. It was great fun.

Bill

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#57307

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 21:34:43, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> 
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>On 29/04/2021 21:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> I remember doing "foxhunts" on a Sunday with the Southend and 
>>District  Amateur Radio Society (1980s) with nothing more than the odd 
>>HB9CV, or  loop - certainly no spectrum analysers!
>> --
>
>When my daughter was a kid I entertained her one evening by taking her 
>on a hunt the pirate expedition. It was great fun.
>
>Bill

I forgot to say - the "fox" (hidden station) only came on briefly, about 
every five or fifteen minutes, I think. I always thought the locals must 
have thought we were nuts: the hunting team's vehicles screeched to a 
stop, people got out, waved aerials about, then got back in and shot off 
again (possibly in a different direction).

Brian's one ought to be a lot easier to find.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I don't like activity holidays. I like /inactivity/ holidays.
- Miriam Margolyes, RT 2017/4/15-21

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#57309

I think it is harder these days, as I'd not want to lug my icom about its 
hardly portable. However a cheap fm portable with no aggressive automatic 
tuning is a possibility. Being at the extreme low end of the band might be 
an issue, we shall see. I guess its academic since nobody used the frequency 
except perhaps small pirate or legal restricted licence stations. I think 
the one which was on over the weekend was a pirate, and there are at least 
five of those around the fm band in this vicinity. It seems the authorities 
tend to only shut them down if they are interfering with services or 
involved in the supply of drugs or downright subversive like radical Islamic 
etc.
 Brian

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"williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message 
news:if0jj3Fdkp0U1@mid.individual.net...
> On 29/04/2021 21:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> I remember doing "foxhunts" on a Sunday with the Southend and District 
>> Amateur Radio Society (1980s) with nothing more than the odd HB9CV, or 
>> loop - certainly no spectrum analysers!
>> -- 
>
> When my daughter was a kid I entertained her one evening by taking her on 
> a hunt the pirate expedition. It was great fun.
>
> Bill 

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#57306

On 29/04/2021 21:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> I remember doing "foxhunts" on a Sunday with the Southend and District
> Amateur Radio Society (1980s) with nothing more than the odd HB9CV, or
> loop - certainly no spectrum analysers!

Never been involved with "foxhunts" but I presume they use low power 
signals with a limited antenna to keep the signal level low.

This interference could be coming from a much higher power transmitter 
that could be connected to an antenna high up.

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#57308

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 21:52:43, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote (my responses 
usually follow points raised):
>On 29/04/2021 21:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> I remember doing "foxhunts" on a Sunday with the Southend and District
>> Amateur Radio Society (1980s) with nothing more than the odd HB9CV, or
>> loop - certainly no spectrum analysers!
>
>Never been involved with "foxhunts" but I presume they use low power 
>signals with a limited antenna to keep the signal level low.

Yes, and only transmitting briefly. Really serious ones involved 
stations well hidden in a wood and/or by water, sometimes with extra 
unconnected lengths of wire to reradiate and confuse that way, and other 
such subterfuges; the SDARC ones were a light-hearted affair, suitable 
for family participation, usually ending at a pub in time for lunch.

I don't know if they still are done (or even if amateur radio 
societies/clubs still exist).
>
>This interference could be coming from a much higher power transmitter 
>that could be connected to an antenna high up.
>
Yes, probably needing more use of nulls than otherwise.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I don't like activity holidays. I like /inactivity/ holidays.
- Miriam Margolyes, RT 2017/4/15-21

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#57301

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:20:27 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>So that means you cannot hear a birdie switching on and off every few 
>seconds then? I am beginning to suspect the industrial estate as the source, 
>its definitely stronger in that direction.
>
>VHF is difficult though, since it is often reflected by things.
> Brian

I hear no pulsing. I'm sure it must from be the industrial estate near
you. Perhaps you can null it out with a suitable aerial?
-- 
Dave W

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#57310

I might get arrested being blind and walking the street with an fm dipole 
and a radio, but if the weather is good over the bank holiday and its still 
there, it might be interesting so if you never hear from me again.....
 Brian

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"Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:6gll8gporlal2tqicno4hsvqmgai6oagrr@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:20:27 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>So that means you cannot hear a birdie switching on and off every few
>>seconds then? I am beginning to suspect the industrial estate as the 
>>source,
>>its definitely stronger in that direction.
>>
>>VHF is difficult though, since it is often reflected by things.
>> Brian
>
> I hear no pulsing. I'm sure it must from be the industrial estate near
> you. Perhaps you can null it out with a suitable aerial?
> -- 
> Dave W
> 

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#57315

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:09:31 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>I might get arrested being blind and walking the street with an fm dipole 
>and a radio, but if the weather is good over the bank holiday and its still 
>there, it might be interesting so if you never hear from me again.....
> Brian

I didn't mean for you to go walking about - only to reduce the
annoyance at home.
-- 
Dave W

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#57311

Well don't hear the pirate or the carrier about two miles down the road in 
Surbiton.
 Did some messing about with the portable but that makes it sound more like 
the actual pirate station is going on and off, as the afc is kicking in I 
think.
 Brian

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"Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:6gll8gporlal2tqicno4hsvqmgai6oagrr@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:20:27 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>So that means you cannot hear a birdie switching on and off every few
>>seconds then? I am beginning to suspect the industrial estate as the 
>>source,
>>its definitely stronger in that direction.
>>
>>VHF is difficult though, since it is often reflected by things.
>> Brian
>
> I hear no pulsing. I'm sure it must from be the industrial estate near
> you. Perhaps you can null it out with a suitable aerial?
> -- 
> Dave W
> 

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#57312

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 12:27:28, "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" 
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote (my responses usually follow points 
raised):
>Well don't hear the pirate or the carrier about two miles down the road in
>Surbiton.
> Did some messing about with the portable but that makes it sound more like
>the actual pirate station is going on and off, as the afc is kicking in I
>think.
> Brian
>
Maybe someone - semi-officially or otherwise - is trying to jam the 
pirate! (Though I doubt it.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A biochemist walks into a student bar and says to the barman: "I'd like a pint
of adenosine triphosphate, please." "Certainly," says the barman, "that'll be
ATP." (Quoted in) The Independent, 2013-7-13

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