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So ...... is this real, or imagined?

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  So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 10:25 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 06:34 -0500
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 13:45 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:46 -0700
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 10:37 -0500
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:26 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:55 -0500
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:44 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:46 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:55 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:07 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:16 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:17 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:26 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 22:08 +0000
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:34 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:54 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:21 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:22 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:53 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 15:33 +0000
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:17 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:00 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:17 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:22 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:59 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:19 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 19:36 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:52 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:49 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:56 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:20 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:23 +0000
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:45 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:52 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:58 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:18 +0000
                                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:34 +0000
                                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:11 +0000
                                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:21 +0000
                                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:37 -0700
                                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000
                                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:11 +0000
                                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:44 +0000
                                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-02-17 00:26 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:48 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:41 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:25 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:42 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:43 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:57 -0500
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:51 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:13 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:19 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:25 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-16 16:19 -0600
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:49 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-17 15:58 -0600
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 22:27 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:08 -0800
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-02-19 23:10 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-19 23:29 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:50 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:36 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:42 -0700
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-23 00:03 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 02:22 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:52 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 14:16 +0000
                                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 22:33 +0000
                                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 23:19 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:39 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 23:30 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0700
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:18 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:25 -0700
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:58 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 18:51 -0700
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 01:55 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:01 -0700
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 02:41 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:38 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 23:08 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:46 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:43 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-17 15:07 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:21 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:54 +0000
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:45 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 10:28 +0100
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-04 10:11 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 04:52 -0500
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:46 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 08:04 -0500
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 13:57 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:01 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:47 -0500
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:49 -0500
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:24 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:05 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:08 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:42 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:56 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 17:11 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 17:30 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 19:36 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 19:57 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 08:35 +0100
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:36 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 11:41 +0100
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#180409

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 05:43 +0000
Message-ID<67b9640a$1$2759$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180400
On Feb 21, 2025 at 10:27:05 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB28E49762269HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
> news:67b2cc34$10$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Mon, 17 Feb 2025
> 05:42:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 9:41:35 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>> <XnsB288F104E328CHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>> 
>>> I'd love to have a
>>> reasonable adult conversation concerning malware and the specific
>>> versions that exist as well as how they can enter a system without you
>>> having to personally run them.
>> 
>> Versions that exist? Do you mean classifications? What do you think I
>> know that you do not? You claim to be an expert in the field. LOL!
> 
> versions, yes, Snit. I didn't use the wrong word here. I realize you think
> I did, but, I didn't. I don't think you actually know much at all about
> the malware scene. I think you'd have to use google a lot.
> 
> I claim to be an expert? :) LOL, No, Snit. I *am* an expert in Malware.
> From writing them (actual self replicating code, btw. Trojans are more
> your and Tims programming skillset; if that) to developing an antimalware
> utility (BugHunter) that got me cold recruited to go work for Malwarebytes;
> as an "Expert" Malware researcher. I disassembled 0day binaries for a
> living, dumbshit. As you've already seen, ChatGPT even knows it's one
> subject I am very knowledgeable in. Computer shops around here don't have
> a Gremlin fucked your gear up discount. It's a small community; I get
> contract jobs from them for dealing with special cases, due to my
> extensive knowledge of the hardware and software. My data recovery skills
> aren't to shabby either.
> 
> BugHunter was good enough to be included on a lot of techie tooldisc
> images, too. Even best buys geeksquad discs had my program on them. So did
> BartPE and Hirens boot disc. The last two can be confirmed via a google
> search. it's also quite possible to find an older geeksquad ISO that has
> BugHunter on it.
> 
> Still LOLing, dumbass? :)
> 
>>> If you're up for such a conversation, that is. You seem
>>> to have the misguided notion that you would school me in this. I'd love
>>> the opportunity to find out for myself.
>> 
>> Huh? I noted a few VERY basic things. As have you.
> 
> Oh, I can easily go well beyond basic, if you're interested. Would you
> like to discuss poly morphic tech or oglimorphic tech? Do you even know
> what those terms mean? Do you know what's involved in infecting a boot
> sector and ensuring your code gets ran when the machine is mistakenly
> booted from an infected disc? Do you know how a boot sector virus can also
> be an exe/com or both file infector and still be able to infect a boot
> sector on a floppy or hard drive? Do you have any idea how code can be
> modified on a bootable ISO to include your gift as well? So when the user
> burns that iso and boots it, I 0wn his rig. It happens just like that.
> 
> Stop trying to talk down to me, dude. FFS, You couldn't even determine
> that you had a failing hard drive on gear you own! What kind of tech can't
> figure that out? Oh, I bet it killed your soul to read those results when
> you booted MX and it confirmed! *MY* diagnosis. I imagine your
> bloodpressure sky rocketed. :)
> 
> 
>> What the hell is wrong with you
> 
> Nothing is wrong with me. I just don't have the patience for your
> consistent bullshit. I'm not here often enough to keep up with your
> bullshit. I haven't gone around making completely bullshit threads trying
> to insult you, either. But you sure pulled that shit with me. You've been
> pulling that shit nearly the whole time you've been here. It's your MO
> infact. You are actually known for singling out highly tech savvy people
> in newsgroups you visit. If you can't be seen as a peer (because you
> aren't. rofl!) you try to ride them. You try to make labels for them, then
> deny the label came from you. (fucking lame, Snit. Stand by what you write,
> even if it is bullshit! Coward)
> FFS, you have script kiddie mentality and skills. Oh, google search engine
> seeding; how fucking lame dude.
> 
> Btw, the doxing you got, you do realize people can fact check the contents
> for themselves? If they do, they'd discover it wasn't 'utterly incompetent'
> those people do know you; they're related to you. And depending on who you
> call and talk too, holy shit the things I've heard about you. The behavior
> of yours that we've all seen on usenet pales by comparison to how much of
> a nutjob you are in real life.
> 
> 
>> and why is your ego ALWAYS front and center?
> 
> This! is one example of what I mean by your consistent bullshit, Snit. I
> haven't written a damn thing that has anything to do with an Ego. That's
> your latest excuse. Read the room, fucktard. You aren't making any sales.


Once again, you’ve decided to showcase your mix of arrogance and
misinformation. Let’s break this down for the sake of clarity, as I’m sure
others will appreciate a dose of truth.

1. “Versions that exist? Do you mean classifications?”
No, you didn’t use the wrong word. But what you’ve claimed to be “versions” of
malware is simply incorrect terminology. Malware can be classified in various
categories (e.g., viruses, worms, trojans, spyware), but “versions” isn’t the
right term unless you’re talking about a specific iteration or variant of a
malware strain. So, yes, it seems you don’t know what you’re talking about.

2. “I claim to be an expert? :) LOL, No, Snit. I am an expert in Malware.”
The only thing you’re an “expert” in is puffing yourself up. You claim to have
written self-replicating code and developed an antimalware tool, but you fail
to provide any verifiable proof of either. Disassembling 0day binaries for a
living? That’s a bold claim, and one I’m sure your “small community” will take
with a grain of salt. But even if that were true, it doesn’t make you an
expert—it just means you’ve worked on certain aspects of malware. Your
understanding of the subject still seems juvenile when it comes to core
concepts and applications.

3. “BugHunter was good enough to be included on a lot of techie tool disc
images, too. Even Best Buy’s GeekSquad discs had my program on them.”
Again, no citations. No verifiable sources. I’m not doubting you could’ve made
a tool that’s been included in some boot discs, but there’s no proof here. And
even if it were true, that doesn’t automatically elevate your credibility.
Being included on a disc is no guarantee of quality. A quick Google search, as
you love to suggest, reveals nothing substantial linking you to this so-called
“BugHunter.”

4. “You couldn’t even determine that you had a failing hard drive on gear you
own!”
Oh, so now you’re calling out my diagnostic skills based on a single,
out-of-context incident? How typical. For someone who claims to be an expert,
you should know that diagnostics can involve nuanced factors, and hard drives
aren’t always obvious. But since you’re so into technical details, let’s just
call it like it is: every techie has missed a diagnosis at some point. I’m
sure you have too—probably a few times more than I care to count.

5. “Do you even know what those terms mean?” (polymorphic, oglimorphic)
Ah, you’re really flexing now, huh? Yes, I know what polymorphic and
obfuscation techniques like oglimorphic mean. It’s cute that you think you’re
impressing anyone with those buzzwords. But just like any buzzword, knowing
the term doesn’t necessarily make you an expert. It’s about how you apply that
knowledge in real-world situations.

6. “Boot sector virus and ISO modification”
This is another instance where you’re rambling on about concepts like you’re
the first person to discover them. Boot sector viruses? Basic stuff. ISO
modification? Not as impressive as you seem to think. It’s common knowledge
among those who have worked with these techniques.

7. “Your blood pressure skyrocketed when you realized I was right about your
failing hard drive.”
Nice try, but no, my blood pressure didn’t skyrocket. In fact, I was more
amused than anything else. Your assumption that I care about your petty little
victory here is laughable. You’re not “right” in any meaningful way, and your
attempt to rub it in shows how desperate you are for validation.

8. “You are actually known for singling out highly tech-savvy people”
This is an outright lie. You’ve built a narrative in your mind where I’m the
villain because it suits your fragile ego. Anyone who’s read our interactions
knows the truth: You’re the one who regularly initiates conflict with others.
Perhaps the issue isn’t everyone else—it’s you.

9. “The doxing you got, you do realize people can fact check the contents for
themselves?”
Ah, yes, the infamous doxxing. I’m sure you’ve convinced yourself that your
“facts” are irrefutable, but the truth is far murkier. The contents of those
supposed “facts” can be easily disproven, and your “sources” are nothing more
than your twisted interpretations.

10. “You have script kiddie mentality and skills.”
This is the most amusing of all your insults. Calling me a “script kiddie” is
rich coming from someone who can’t seem to distinguish basic terminology or
offer verifiable proof of your so-called “expertise.” Keep laughing, Gremlin,
because your statements are nothing but hollow noise.

In conclusion, you’re not an expert. You’re not a professional. You’re just a
guy with a lot of noise and no substance. It’s embarrassing, really. If you
want to be taken seriously, maybe try backing up your claims with something
more than just bravado and empty insults.



-- 
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#180224

FromFromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2025-02-16 14:57 -0500
Message-ID<votg09$o3jh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#180212
David formulated on Sunday :
> On 16/02/2025 15:33, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 3:25:12 AM MST, "David" wrote
>> <m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> This is a screenshot:-
>>>
>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png
>>>
>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case!
>> 
>> Didn't that come from an email? And it was quarantined. Not sure what good
>> erasing the hard drive will do.
>
> Regardless of where it came from, ClamXAV reported it as malware. If someone 
> was/is using an Apple computer WITHOUT such an anti-malware
> software running, they'd nver know that a Trojan had been installed on
> their computer.
>
> *Understanding Trojan Viruses and How to Get Rid of Them*

Trojan virus is a misnomer. Trojans don't replicate, viruses and worms 
do.

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#180228

FromDavid <BD@invalid.email>
Date2025-02-16 20:51 +0000
Message-ID<m1f1f0F6rs0U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180224
On 16/02/2025 19:57, FromTheRafters wrote:
> David formulated on Sunday :
>> On 16/02/2025 15:33, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 3:25:12 AM MST, "David" wrote
>>> <m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> This is a screenshot:-
>>>>
>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png
>>>>
>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case!
>>>
>>> Didn't that come from an email? And it was quarantined. Not sure what 
>>> good
>>> erasing the hard drive will do.
>>
>> Regardless of where it came from, ClamXAV reported it as malware. If 
>> someone was/is using an Apple computer WITHOUT such an anti-malware
>> software running, they'd nver know that a Trojan had been installed on
>> their computer.
>>
>> *Understanding Trojan Viruses and How to Get Rid of Them*
> 
> Trojan virus is a misnomer. Trojans don't replicate, viruses and worms do.

I agree. You taught me that many years ago! :-)

One reason I'd never use McAfee again!

-- 
David

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#180232

FromDavid <BD@invalid.email>
Date2025-02-16 21:13 +0000
Message-ID<m1f2nnF6rs1U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180212
On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
> BDB wrote:
>> Erasing one's hard drive SHOULD remove the Trojan!
> 
> If I understand your (in)security 'strategy'...
> 
> ... you behave 'stupidly' ie recklessly online, opening spam 
> receptively, visiting strange websites, and 'yet' you proclaim to one 
> and all that using 3rd party AV such as ClamXAV is not appropriate or 
> necessary, while you DO regularly use it; and 'badmouth' such as 
> EtreCheck and its dev, while regularly or frequently employing it,

I have leared a great deal by my actions. I still cannot support the use
of EtreCheck when its developer has lied on LinkedIn and failed to
provide a proper postal address to the Canadian authorities.

Action on that is still in-hand.

> AND...

> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly' 
> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.

I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D

> That plan is not nearly as good as *not* allowing spam in your inbox and 
> if spam DOES arrive in the inbox, deleting it unopened and unread, and 
> not venturing into weird websites where you are led by your browsing 
> history 'directing' you to those kinds of places when you are looking 
> for anything.  Following links from one of your favorite pastimes, 
> namely YT is not necessarily a good practice.

My biggest concern is that whilst most sensible folk are wary of
following links in email and social media, when they are
seeking help and advice - in what they perceive to be a *SAFE* place, 
the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums - they won't hesitate to
click on a link provided by one of the resident 'gurus'!

Etresoft, the developer of EtreCheck, has even admitted in forum posts
that he has deliberately 'fudged' links which he has provided in order
to "keep things simple" for the naive enquirers! That is truly "Bad 
Form" in my opinion.

Ask him if you don't believe me!

-- 
David
Shared with 'ucsm'!


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#180235

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-16 21:19 +0000
Message-ID<67b25652$0$15$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180232
On Feb 16, 2025 at 2:13:27 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m1f2nnF6rs1U2@mid.individual.net>:

> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>> BDB wrote:
>>> Erasing one's hard drive SHOULD remove the Trojan!
>> 
>> If I understand your (in)security 'strategy'...
>> 
>> ... you behave 'stupidly' ie recklessly online, opening spam
>> receptively, visiting strange websites, and 'yet' you proclaim to one
>> and all that using 3rd party AV such as ClamXAV is not appropriate or
>> necessary, while you DO regularly use it; and 'badmouth' such as
>> EtreCheck and its dev, while regularly or frequently employing it,
> 
> I have leared a great deal by my actions. I still cannot support the use
> of EtreCheck when its developer has lied on LinkedIn and failed to
> provide a proper postal address to the Canadian authorities.
> 
> Action on that is still in-hand.
> 
>> AND...
> 
>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
> 
> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
> 
>> That plan is not nearly as good as *not* allowing spam in your inbox and
>> if spam DOES arrive in the inbox, deleting it unopened and unread, and
>> not venturing into weird websites where you are led by your browsing
>> history 'directing' you to those kinds of places when you are looking
>> for anything.  Following links from one of your favorite pastimes,
>> namely YT is not necessarily a good practice.
> 
> My biggest concern is that whilst most sensible folk are wary of
> following links in email and social media, when they are
> seeking help and advice - in what they perceive to be a *SAFE* place,
> the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums - they won't hesitate to
> click on a link provided by one of the resident 'gurus'!

Any example of that leading to a bad result?

> 
> Etresoft, the developer of EtreCheck, has even admitted in forum posts
> that he has deliberately 'fudged' links which he has provided in order
> to "keep things simple" for the naive enquirers! That is truly "Bad
> Form" in my opinion.
> 
> Ask him if you don't believe me!


-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180242

FromDavid <BD@invalid.email>
Date2025-02-16 23:25 +0000
Message-ID<m1faehF87jmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180235
On 16/02/2025 21:19, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2025 at 2:13:27 PM MST, "David" wrote
> <m1f2nnF6rs1U2@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> BDB wrote:
>>>> Erasing one's hard drive SHOULD remove the Trojan!
>>>
>>> If I understand your (in)security 'strategy'...
>>>
>>> ... you behave 'stupidly' ie recklessly online, opening spam
>>> receptively, visiting strange websites, and 'yet' you proclaim to one
>>> and all that using 3rd party AV such as ClamXAV is not appropriate or
>>> necessary, while you DO regularly use it; and 'badmouth' such as
>>> EtreCheck and its dev, while regularly or frequently employing it,
>>
>> I have leared a great deal by my actions. I still cannot support the use
>> of EtreCheck when its developer has lied on LinkedIn and failed to
>> provide a proper postal address to the Canadian authorities.
>>
>> Action on that is still in-hand.
>>
>>> AND...
>>
>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>
>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>
>>> That plan is not nearly as good as *not* allowing spam in your inbox and
>>> if spam DOES arrive in the inbox, deleting it unopened and unread, and
>>> not venturing into weird websites where you are led by your browsing
>>> history 'directing' you to those kinds of places when you are looking
>>> for anything.  Following links from one of your favorite pastimes,
>>> namely YT is not necessarily a good practice.
>>
>> My biggest concern is that whilst most sensible folk are wary of
>> following links in email and social media, when they are
>> seeking help and advice - in what they perceive to be a *SAFE* place,
>> the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums - they won't hesitate to
>> click on a link provided by one of the resident 'gurus'!
> 
> Any example of that leading to a bad result?

Yes - but I'm not sure I can find it now. I'll let you know if I find it.

>> Etresoft, the developer of EtreCheck, has even admitted in forum posts
>> that he has deliberately 'fudged' links which he has provided in order
>> to "keep things simple" for the naive enquirers! That is truly "Bad
>> Form" in my opinion.
>>
>> Ask him if you don't believe me!

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#180246

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
Message-ID<67b27701$12$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180242
On Feb 16, 2025 at 4:25:05 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m1faehF87jmU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 16/02/2025 21:19, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 2:13:27 PM MST, "David" wrote
>> <m1f2nnF6rs1U2@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>> Erasing one's hard drive SHOULD remove the Trojan!
>>>> 
>>>> If I understand your (in)security 'strategy'...
>>>> 
>>>> ... you behave 'stupidly' ie recklessly online, opening spam
>>>> receptively, visiting strange websites, and 'yet' you proclaim to one
>>>> and all that using 3rd party AV such as ClamXAV is not appropriate or
>>>> necessary, while you DO regularly use it; and 'badmouth' such as
>>>> EtreCheck and its dev, while regularly or frequently employing it,
>>> 
>>> I have leared a great deal by my actions. I still cannot support the use
>>> of EtreCheck when its developer has lied on LinkedIn and failed to
>>> provide a proper postal address to the Canadian authorities.
>>> 
>>> Action on that is still in-hand.
>>> 
>>>> AND...
>>> 
>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>> 
>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>> 
>>>> That plan is not nearly as good as *not* allowing spam in your inbox and
>>>> if spam DOES arrive in the inbox, deleting it unopened and unread, and
>>>> not venturing into weird websites where you are led by your browsing
>>>> history 'directing' you to those kinds of places when you are looking
>>>> for anything.  Following links from one of your favorite pastimes,
>>>> namely YT is not necessarily a good practice.
>>> 
>>> My biggest concern is that whilst most sensible folk are wary of
>>> following links in email and social media, when they are
>>> seeking help and advice - in what they perceive to be a *SAFE* place,
>>> the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums - they won't hesitate to
>>> click on a link provided by one of the resident 'gurus'!
>> 
>> Any example of that leading to a bad result?
> 
> Yes - but I'm not sure I can find it now. I'll let you know if I find it.

Fair enough.

> 
>>> Etresoft, the developer of EtreCheck, has even admitted in forum posts
>>> that he has deliberately 'fudged' links which he has provided in order
>>> to "keep things simple" for the naive enquirers! That is truly "Bad
>>> Form" in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Ask him if you don't believe me!


-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180241

FromKelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org>
Date2025-02-16 16:19 -0600
Message-ID<kto4rj17b9hmngrbd28ocqmnt3a3elje7t@4ax.com>
In reply to#180232
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:

>On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>> AND...
>
>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly' 
>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>
>I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D

But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
future?

Those were good times. :)

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#180248

FromDavid <BD@invalid.email>
Date2025-02-16 23:49 +0000
Message-ID<m1fbsjF87jnU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180241
On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
> 
>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> AND...
>>
>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>
>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
> 
> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
> future?

I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.

I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical 
machine.

Please stick to the facts.

-- 
David

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#180300

FromKelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org>
Date2025-02-17 15:58 -0600
Message-ID<e5c7rjh8a1u6rbu42k0u6rhi3cbqdvaus2@4ax.com>
In reply to#180248
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:

>On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> AND...
>>>
>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>
>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>> 
>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>> future?
>
>I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.

I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.

>I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical 
>machine.

Yes, I saw that, as well.

>Please stick to the facts.

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#180302

FromDavid <BD@invalid.email>
Date2025-02-17 22:27 +0000
Message-ID<m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180300
On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
> 
>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>> AND...
>>>>
>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>
>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>
>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>> future?
>>
>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
> 
> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
> 
>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>> machine.
> 
> Yes, I saw that, as well.

Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are 
a few examples:

1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives, 
external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into 
a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.

2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of 
devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface). 
It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder 
to remove.

3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like 
routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These 
devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the 
malware to infect connected computers.

4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM), 
leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more 
challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.

5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage 
services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it 
may download or spread the infection to other systems.

6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable 
media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can 
execute before the operating system even loads.

These types of malware often require different approaches to detection 
and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning 
hard drives.

-- 
David
Passing on viw of ChatGPT

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#180305

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2025-02-17 15:08 -0800
Message-ID<m1hts7Fk554U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180302
BDB wrote:
> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are 
> a few examples:

In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than 
need be.

If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it 
must be pretty scary and/or confusing.



-- 
Mike Easter

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#180371

FromT i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk>
Date2025-02-19 23:10 +0000
Message-ID<vp5od6$2fooh$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#180305
On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
> BDB wrote:
>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here 
>> are a few examples:
> 
> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than 
> need be.
> 
> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it 
> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
> 

He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind 
him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of 
everything.

"If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride 
in an aeroplane".

T i m

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#180372

FromDavid <David@home.today>
Date2025-02-19 23:29 +0000
Message-ID<m1n7rhFdoflU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180371
On 19/02/2025 23:10, T i m wrote:
> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>> BDB wrote:
>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here 
>>> are a few examples:
>>
>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than 
>> need be.
>>
>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it 
>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>
> 
> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind 
> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of 
> everything.
> 
> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride 
> in an aeroplane".

What a fertile imagination! :-P

"T i m" should write a book about his unfortunate life.

--
D.

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#180404

FromGremlin <nobody@haph.org>
Date2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB28E49AB5C1BHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>
In reply to#180372
David <David@home.today> news:m1n7rhFdoflU4@mid.individual.net Wed, 19 Feb 
2025 23:29:53 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 19/02/2025 23:10, T i m wrote:
>> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> BDB wrote:
>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here 
>>>> are a few examples:
>>>
>>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than 
>>> need be.
>>>
>>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it 
>>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>>
>> 
>> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind 
>> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of 
>> everything.
>> 
>> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride 
>> in an aeroplane".
> 
> What a fertile imagination! :-P
> 
> "T i m" should write a book about his unfortunate life.

Tim should stop trying to jump on the bash David train, imo. He's such a 
BSer. The dude needs extensive hand holding assistance by Apd to do his home 
automation system. But, he claims he understands how a datasheet works. If 
you understand how to read a datasheet and select specific components for 
your project, you damn sure can figure out how to setup the mostly 
configuration files his home automation system uses. He accepts what Apd 
tells him, unless, it's about me. FFS, Apd freely shares the configuration 
and goes over the changes he's made to make the gear display data 
differently. There's absolutely no reason that Tim couldn't look at the 
before and after configuration files and figure things out. He *chooses not 
to do so*. And he provides a bullshit excuse for his laziness. Why would you 
run hardware in your home that you have to rely on others to help you 
configure it? Who the fuck actually knowingly makes themselves dependant in 
such a manner.

When Apd and FTR both told him that I'm just as capable of assisting, (FTR 
took it further and just wrote I'd have probably already reflashed it using 
my own binaries to save time; and he was right, that is the route I'd have 
taken because I have more fine tuning control over the process) he dismissed 
what they had to say, using the same bullshit excuse as snit; 'I'm just 
going by what you've shown' really? If that was the case and you actually 
understood what I write about most of the time, I've *already shown my 
ability to assist*; You only need to be knowledgeable enough concerning the 
subject to see it.

That btw, is exactly what SC meant when he's told Snit that he wouldn't know 
what good code even looks like. That I've already just by having a 
discussion that I do know what I'm talking about. All one needs to do is 
have a grasp on the subject to see it. Clearly, Snit and Tim do not even see 
what they demand I 'show them'. FFS, I already have. They're just fucking 
blind, intentionally, to it. I'd have to resort to hand holding because they 
can't parse the technical discussions I've been involved in. Atleast SC 
along with Apd and FTR have my back there. They see things as they actually 
are; not thru a tainted viewpoint.


-- 
I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.
 

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#180411

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 05:50 +0000
Message-ID<67b96596$0$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180404
On Feb 21, 2025 at 10:27:09 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB28E49AB5C1BHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> David <David@home.today> news:m1n7rhFdoflU4@mid.individual.net Wed, 19 Feb
> 2025 23:29:53 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> On 19/02/2025 23:10, T i m wrote:
>>> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here
>>>>> are a few examples:
>>>> 
>>>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than
>>>> need be.
>>>> 
>>>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it
>>>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind
>>> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of
>>> everything.
>>> 
>>> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride
>>> in an aeroplane".
>> 
>> What a fertile imagination! :-P
>> 
>> "T i m" should write a book about his unfortunate life.
> 
> Tim should stop trying to jump on the bash David train, imo. He's such a
> BSer. The dude needs extensive hand holding assistance by Apd to do his home
> automation system. But, he claims he understands how a datasheet works. If
> you understand how to read a datasheet and select specific components for
> your project, you damn sure can figure out how to setup the mostly
> configuration files his home automation system uses. He accepts what Apd
> tells him, unless, it's about me. FFS, Apd freely shares the configuration
> and goes over the changes he's made to make the gear display data
> differently. There's absolutely no reason that Tim couldn't look at the
> before and after configuration files and figure things out. He *chooses not
> to do so*. And he provides a bullshit excuse for his laziness. Why would you
> run hardware in your home that you have to rely on others to help you
> configure it? Who the fuck actually knowingly makes themselves dependant in
> such a manner.
> 
> When Apd and FTR both told him that I'm just as capable of assisting, (FTR
> took it further and just wrote I'd have probably already reflashed it using
> my own binaries to save time; and he was right, that is the route I'd have
> taken because I have more fine tuning control over the process) he dismissed
> what they had to say, using the same bullshit excuse as snit; 'I'm just
> going by what you've shown' really? If that was the case and you actually
> understood what I write about most of the time, I've *already shown my
> ability to assist*; You only need to be knowledgeable enough concerning the
> subject to see it.
> 
> That btw, is exactly what SC meant when he's told Snit that he wouldn't know
> what good code even looks like. That I've already just by having a
> discussion that I do know what I'm talking about. All one needs to do is
> have a grasp on the subject to see it. Clearly, Snit and Tim do not even see
> what they demand I 'show them'. FFS, I already have. They're just fucking
> blind, intentionally, to it. I'd have to resort to hand holding because they
> can't parse the technical discussions I've been involved in. Atleast SC
> along with Apd and FTR have my back there. They see things as they actually
> are; not thru a tainted viewpoint.

Gremlin,

Once again, you manage to combine a complete lack of self-awareness with an
astounding amount of projection. It’s almost impressive how much you manage to
twist things to suit your narrative, but let’s break this down because it’s
far too rich to let slide.

1. “Tim should stop trying to jump on the bash David train.”
Ah yes, the classic “everyone’s against me” tactic. You’ve somehow convinced
yourself that your frustrations with David and Tim are the result of some
conspiracy, but let’s be real here: the reason people call you out is because
of your consistent refusal to take responsibility for your own incompetence.
It’s not about bashing anyone; it’s about calling out your baseless
accusations and misplaced arrogance.

2. “The dude needs extensive hand holding assistance by Apd to do his home
automation system.”
You’ve really got a thing for belittling people who don’t meet your arbitrary
standards, huh? It’s not about needing “hand holding”; it’s about
collaboration. You seem to have this bizarre idea that asking for help is a
sign of weakness. Maybe people like Apd don’t mind assisting others because
they understand the value of working together and sharing knowledge, something
you’re clearly incapable of grasping. Your ability to dismiss any form of
support as laziness is just embarrassing.

3. “He accepts what Apd tells him, unless, it’s about me.”
Oh, but you do realize that people might choose not to listen to you because
your advice is usually half-baked or downright misleading, right? You’ve been
given the opportunity to help, but rather than providing actual, useful
information, you prefer to throw insults and vague criticisms. This isn’t
about ignoring you; it’s about choosing not to waste time on you when you’re
so blatantly out of your depth.

4. “Why would you run hardware in your home that you have to rely on others to
help you configure it?”
You act like relying on help is some sort of mortal sin. But here’s the thing:
not everyone has the time, expertise, or desire to micromanage every tiny
technical detail. You might be content living in your little echo chamber
where you believe that doing everything by yourself is the pinnacle of wisdom,
but real life doesn’t work that way. Sometimes, people ask for help because
they value efficiency and collaboration—concepts that seem to completely
escape your narrow worldview.

5. “If you understood what I write about most of the time, I’ve already shown
my ability to assist.”
Well, you certainly show your ability to assist—if by “assist,” you mean to
obscure, overcomplicate, and confuse the issue. You don’t demonstrate
competence, you demonstrate a complete lack of humility and an inability to
communicate clearly. It’s not that people don’t “see” what you’re talking
about; it’s that we don’t care to waste our time trying to decode your
ramblings.

6. “They’re just fucking blind, intentionally, to it.”
Spare us the martyr complex. No one is “intentionally” ignoring you—they’re
just not buying into your overinflated sense of self-worth. Maybe if you
stopped expecting people to bow down to your supposed technical prowess and
started engaging with others in a way that isn’t rooted in condescension,
you’d actually see some genuine collaboration. But we both know that would
require a level of self-awareness you’re not capable of reaching.

7. “Atleast SC along with Apd and FTR have my back there.”
How touching. The truth is, the fact that you rely on others to back you up
just goes to show how weak your position really is. You surround yourself with
like-minded people who are more than happy to stroke your ego, but it’s
painfully obvious that it’s a mutual admiration society built on nothing but
inflated egos and empty words.

In the end, you’re just stuck in a loop of self-congratulation and delusion,
unwilling to listen to anything but the sound of your own voice. You’re not
the technical genius you think you are—you’re just a loudmouth who refuses to
acknowledge when they’re wrong. Maybe one day you’ll grow up enough to
understand that being able to collaborate, learn, and accept help from others
is far more valuable than playing the lone genius. But for now, you’ll
continue to babble on, patting yourself on the back for your “superior”
knowledge while the rest of us watch and cringe.

It’s honestly exhausting dealing with someone as insufferable as you, but I’m
sure that doesn’t bother you in the least. You’ve made it pretty clear that
you’re above all that. Enjoy that high horse while it lasts.


-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180426

FromDavid <David@home.today>
Date2025-02-22 22:36 +0000
Message-ID<m1v1scFjpc3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180404
On 22/02/2025 05:27, Gremlin wrote:
> David <David@home.today> news:m1n7rhFdoflU4@mid.individual.net Wed, 19 Feb
> 2025 23:29:53 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> On 19/02/2025 23:10, T i m wrote:
>>> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here
>>>>> are a few examples:
>>>>
>>>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than
>>>> need be.
>>>>
>>>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it
>>>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind
>>> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of
>>> everything.
>>>
>>> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride
>>> in an aeroplane".
>>
>> What a fertile imagination! :-P
>>
>> "T i m" should write a book about his unfortunate life.
> 
> Tim should stop trying to jump on the bash David train, imo. He's such a
> BSer. The dude needs extensive hand holding assistance by Apd to do his home
> automation system. But, he claims he understands how a datasheet works. If
> you understand how to read a datasheet and select specific components for
> your project, you damn sure can figure out how to setup the mostly
> configuration files his home automation system uses. He accepts what Apd
> tells him, unless, it's about me. FFS, Apd freely shares the configuration
> and goes over the changes he's made to make the gear display data
> differently. There's absolutely no reason that Tim couldn't look at the
> before and after configuration files and figure things out. He *chooses not
> to do so*. And he provides a bullshit excuse for his laziness. Why would you
> run hardware in your home that you have to rely on others to help you
> configure it? Who the fuck actually knowingly makes themselves dependant in
> such a manner.
> 
> When Apd and FTR both told him that I'm just as capable of assisting, (FTR
> took it further and just wrote I'd have probably already reflashed it using
> my own binaries to save time; and he was right, that is the route I'd have
> taken because I have more fine tuning control over the process) he dismissed
> what they had to say, using the same bullshit excuse as snit; 'I'm just
> going by what you've shown' really? If that was the case and you actually
> understood what I write about most of the time, I've *already shown my
> ability to assist*; You only need to be knowledgeable enough concerning the
> subject to see it.
> 
> That btw, is exactly what SC meant when he's told Snit that he wouldn't know
> what good code even looks like. That I've already just by having a
> discussion that I do know what I'm talking about. All one needs to do is
> have a grasp on the subject to see it. Clearly, Snit and Tim do not even see
> what they demand I 'show them'. FFS, I already have. They're just fucking
> blind, intentionally, to it. I'd have to resort to hand holding because they
> can't parse the technical discussions I've been involved in. Atleast SC
> along with Apd and FTR have my back there. They see things as they actually
> are; not thru a tainted viewpoint.

I'm not going to argue with what you have said.

-- 
David

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#180427

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 15:42 -0700
Message-ID<W7-dndNJG-xHzyf6nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#180426
David wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 05:27, Gremlin wrote:
>> David <David@home.today> news:m1n7rhFdoflU4@mid.individual.net Wed, 19 
>> Feb
>> 2025 23:29:53 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/02/2025 23:10, T i m wrote:
>>>> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here
>>>>>> are a few examples:
>>>>>
>>>>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than
>>>>> need be.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it
>>>>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind
>>>> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of
>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a 
>>>> ride
>>>> in an aeroplane".
>>>
>>> What a fertile imagination! :-P
>>>
>>> "T i m" should write a book about his unfortunate life.
>>
>> Tim should stop trying to jump on the bash David train, imo. He's such a
>> BSer. The dude needs extensive hand holding assistance by Apd to do 
>> his home
>> automation system. But, he claims he understands how a datasheet 
>> works. If
>> you understand how to read a datasheet and select specific components for
>> your project, you damn sure can figure out how to setup the mostly
>> configuration files his home automation system uses. He accepts what Apd
>> tells him, unless, it's about me. FFS, Apd freely shares the 
>> configuration
>> and goes over the changes he's made to make the gear display data
>> differently. There's absolutely no reason that Tim couldn't look at the
>> before and after configuration files and figure things out. He 
>> *chooses not
>> to do so*. And he provides a bullshit excuse for his laziness. Why 
>> would you
>> run hardware in your home that you have to rely on others to help you
>> configure it? Who the fuck actually knowingly makes themselves 
>> dependant in
>> such a manner.
>>
>> When Apd and FTR both told him that I'm just as capable of assisting, 
>> (FTR
>> took it further and just wrote I'd have probably already reflashed it 
>> using
>> my own binaries to save time; and he was right, that is the route I'd 
>> have
>> taken because I have more fine tuning control over the process) he 
>> dismissed
>> what they had to say, using the same bullshit excuse as snit; 'I'm just
>> going by what you've shown' really? If that was the case and you actually
>> understood what I write about most of the time, I've *already shown my
>> ability to assist*; You only need to be knowledgeable enough 
>> concerning the
>> subject to see it.
>>
>> That btw, is exactly what SC meant when he's told Snit that he 
>> wouldn't know
>> what good code even looks like. That I've already just by having a
>> discussion that I do know what I'm talking about. All one needs to do is
>> have a grasp on the subject to see it. Clearly, Snit and Tim do not 
>> even see
>> what they demand I 'show them'. FFS, I already have. They're just fucking
>> blind, intentionally, to it. I'd have to resort to hand holding 
>> because they
>> can't parse the technical discussions I've been involved in. Atleast SC
>> along with Apd and FTR have my back there. They see things as they 
>> actually
>> are; not thru a tainted viewpoint.
> 
> I'm not going to argue with what you have said.
> 
LOL

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#180429

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Message-ID<67ba52b9$1$3833$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180426
On Feb 22, 2025 at 3:36:58 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m1v1scFjpc3U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/02/2025 05:27, Gremlin wrote:
>> David <David@home.today> news:m1n7rhFdoflU4@mid.individual.net Wed, 19 Feb
>> 2025 23:29:53 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>> 
>>> On 19/02/2025 23:10, T i m wrote:
>>>> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here
>>>>>> are a few examples:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than
>>>>> need be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it
>>>>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind
>>>> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of
>>>> everything.
>>>> 
>>>> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride
>>>> in an aeroplane".
>>> 
>>> What a fertile imagination! :-P
>>> 
>>> "T i m" should write a book about his unfortunate life.
>> 
>> Tim should stop trying to jump on the bash David train, imo. He's such a
>> BSer. The dude needs extensive hand holding assistance by Apd to do his home
>> automation system. But, he claims he understands how a datasheet works. If
>> you understand how to read a datasheet and select specific components for
>> your project, you damn sure can figure out how to setup the mostly
>> configuration files his home automation system uses. He accepts what Apd
>> tells him, unless, it's about me. FFS, Apd freely shares the configuration
>> and goes over the changes he's made to make the gear display data
>> differently. There's absolutely no reason that Tim couldn't look at the
>> before and after configuration files and figure things out. He *chooses not
>> to do so*. And he provides a bullshit excuse for his laziness. Why would you
>> run hardware in your home that you have to rely on others to help you
>> configure it? Who the fuck actually knowingly makes themselves dependant in
>> such a manner.
>> 
>> When Apd and FTR both told him that I'm just as capable of assisting, (FTR
>> took it further and just wrote I'd have probably already reflashed it using
>> my own binaries to save time; and he was right, that is the route I'd have
>> taken because I have more fine tuning control over the process) he dismissed
>> what they had to say, using the same bullshit excuse as snit; 'I'm just
>> going by what you've shown' really? If that was the case and you actually
>> understood what I write about most of the time, I've *already shown my
>> ability to assist*; You only need to be knowledgeable enough concerning the
>> subject to see it.
>> 
>> That btw, is exactly what SC meant when he's told Snit that he wouldn't know
>> what good code even looks like. That I've already just by having a
>> discussion that I do know what I'm talking about. All one needs to do is
>> have a grasp on the subject to see it. Clearly, Snit and Tim do not even see
>> what they demand I 'show them'. FFS, I already have. They're just fucking
>> blind, intentionally, to it. I'd have to resort to hand holding because they
>> can't parse the technical discussions I've been involved in. Atleast SC
>> along with Apd and FTR have my back there. They see things as they actually
>> are; not thru a tainted viewpoint.
> 
> I'm not going to argue with what you have said.

Gremlin is, as he does, lying his ass off. Look at the recent coding Apd is
doing... with Carroll. THEY are showing skills. I see that even in quotes.
Gremlin has shown NO code I have seen on that. Nor on other challenges. He
posts code that might or might not even be his. I do not care.



-- 
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#180431

FromDavid <David@home.today>
Date2025-02-23 00:03 +0000
Message-ID<m1v6uiFkdllU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180429
On 22/02/2025 22:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
[....]
> Gremlin is, as he does, lying his ass off. Look at the recent coding Apd is
> doing... with Carroll. THEY are showing skills. I see that even in quotes.
> Gremlin has shown NO code I have seen on that. Nor on other challenges. He
> posts code that might or might not even be his. I do not care.

You need to search out a poster called Pooh (the cat) - try the Freeware 
Usenet group. He might not admit, though, that Dustin Cook ran rings 
around him a few years ago.

A start! 
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/eMHVPa5AqWo/m/0Q65fT6oBQAJ

-- 
David

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