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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-16 21:22 -0500 |
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The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 21:22 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:10 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-16 22:24 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 02:57 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 03:47 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 08:34 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:56 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:33 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:37 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:53 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-17 15:32 +0000
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:39 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:07 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:25 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-17 16:12 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:12 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:09 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-18 10:51 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:58 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-18 11:27 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 00:39 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:43 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:02 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:22 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:45 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:58 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:08 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:02 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:24 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:56 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:12 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:23 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-17 18:41 +0000
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:14 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:47 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:37 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 14:40 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:50 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 20:57 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 21:51 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 22:42 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:20 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:09 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:48 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:06 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:40 -0400
Re: BenJacoby and JohnSefton wear blinders. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 18:03 -0400
Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 02:50 -0700
Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:19 -0700
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 14:45 +0000
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 09:55 -0500
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:56 -0700
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:07 -0700
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:14 -0700
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:37 -0700
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 15:38 +0000
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 15:35 +0000
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 10:13 -0500
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. xxein1@att.net - 2016-03-18 16:52 -0700
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:34 -0500
Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:02 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:48 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 01:59 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:36 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:03 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:13 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 10:47 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:54 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:54 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:17 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:36 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:55 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:19 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:58 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-16 21:11 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:36 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:13 -0400
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:10 -0500
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 20:55 -0700
Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:35 -0700
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-19 00:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <430f9e70-f120-478e-ad24-d9c4bf244ba0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563236 |
On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:13:04 AM UTC+2, Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Thursday, 17 March 2016 16:40:02 UTC+1, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > On 3/17/2016 10:32 AM, Michael Moroney wrote: > > > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > >> THATS AN UNSUBSTANTIATED ASSERTION. > > >> THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF LOGIC!!!! > > > > > > No, it is stated because it is what is MEASURED. What is measured ALWAYS > > > trumps what we believe. We now believe "everything is TOTALLY WEIRD AND > > > DIFFERENT!!!" in QM because we MEASURE it as such. > > > > > > Logic states the earth is flat and the Sun moves around the earth, and a > > > gallon of water can be divided in half and each half divided in half > > > forever, and we still have water. Logic is wrong. > > > > > >> YOUR SCIENCE IS A LIE, A SHAM, YOU > > >> ARE BEING CONNED!!! > > > > > >> How can you believe that shit, Sam? > > >> When was science hijacked? > > > > > > Science is about what we MEASURE. It is NOT about hallucinating about > > > spinny things and saying "That's science!". > > > > > > > John cannot think that way. > > John believes there are laws of nature that his common sense tells him > > are true: > > "Everything has structure." > > "Everything is made of smaller things, and it's self-similar at any scale." > > "Everything has shape and size, and how it works is determined by those > > things, because that's how solid objects work." > > > > And it's impossible for him to challenge his common sense, because he > > doesn't have anything else. If measurements come back and say those holy > > laws are wrong, then the measurements are wrong. Any theory that doesn't > > respect those laws is therefore immediately nonsensical. Because those > > laws are holy and immutable and no sense can be had, according to John, > > without them. > > > > Now, if you ask him about table salt and ask about its structure, he'll > > point to the cubic grains he can see under a microscope. Now have him > > dissolve those cubic grains in water and ask him what has happened to > > the cubes, the critical shape that defines salt. He'll go mute -- stone > > dumb mute. Because his brain cannot process it at all. > > > > -- > > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > his deep lack of literacy doesn't help him at all > but it is true that everything shows to have a structure > to the point that our instruments don't allow us to see it. > > elementary particles have never been decomposed but they > show different properties. some electrons are heavier than > others and not all quarks look or behave the same way. > > in fact the fact that there are 3 families of quarks and > 3 types of leptons shows a common pattern between quarks, > electrons and neutrinos. > > structure may not always be related to shape or dimension > or to a particle itself and thats where string and > supercymetri theories fail. > > r.y ============================================= just once and for all keep it in your minds 3 QUARKS HAS ONLY 10 PERCENT OF THE PROTON MASS IOW 90 PERCENT IS MISSING !!!! while there is no such thing as 'relativistic mass and even not schmelativistic mass !! ==== see Google: 'the Y Porat Model - an abstract' and you will find the 'missing '' 90 percent ' =========================== TIA Y.Porat ===================================
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 08:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6505e9ed-ac39-4767-86b2-6e15f96cb352@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563098 |
Michael Moroney said >YOUR SCIENCE IS A LIE, A SHAM, YOU >ARE BEING CONNED!!! >How can you believe that shit, Sam? >When was science hijacked? Science is about what we MEASURE. It is NOT about hallucinating about spinny things and saying "That's science!". ------------- And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ. When it is shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away. There's just nowhere to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are wrong. People who rely on science, on the other hand, might bitch a bit but they will rethink their position and ultimately accept reality.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 11:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ncekdu$1ivm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #563103 |
On 3/17/2016 10:43 AM, HVAC wrote: > And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ. When it is > shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away. There's just nowhere > to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are wrong. Exactly. And then, for them, the world will lose all meaning -- a disaster scenario. The other thing that happens is personal experience and the need for validation. John and BJ claim to have had direct contact with aliens. So when Boyd Bushman holds up a picture and claims that it's a picture of an alien that an alien took and gave to him, then this must be true, because it supports their own experience. When it turns out that Boyd is holding up a picture of a toy that's been on WalMart shelves for quite a while before Boyd revealed that "secret photo", then there's a scramble to make Boyd's claim true ANYWAY -- and that's where conspiracy theories and disinformation hypotheses get invented. When the creator of a fake alien autopsy movie says himself that it was fake, John and BJ cannot accept that as true, and so they will invent a secret cabal that is making him say that. See how the slide into madness happens, just because belief systems are so tightly held? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 09:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e26383db-75a5-4c3e-a373-e1de6fbd23ab@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563106 |
12:02 PMOdd Bodkin On 3/17/2016 10:43 AM, HVAC wrote: > And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ. When it is > shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away. There's just nowhere > to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are wrong. Exactly. And then, for them, the world will lose all meaning -- a disaster scenario. The other thing that happens is personal experience and the need for validation. John and BJ claim to have had direct contact with aliens. So when Boyd Bushman holds up a picture and claims that it's a picture of an alien that an alien took and gave to him, then this must be true, because it supports their own experience. When it turns out that Boyd is holding up a picture of a toy that's been on WalMart shelves for quite a while before Boyd revealed that "secret photo", then there's a scramble to make Boyd's claim true ANYWAY -- and that's where conspiracy theories and disinformation hypotheses get invented. When the creator of a fake alien autopsy movie says himself that it was fake, John and BJ cannot accept that as true, and so they will invent a secret cabal that is making him say that. See how the slide into madness happens, just because belief systems are so tightly held? ------------ And the hole they have dug for themselves becomes a bottomless pit... A black hole from which there is no escape. "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout".
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 12:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <LaBGy.15263$bK6.1184@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #563108 |
On 03/17/2016 12:22 PM, HVAC wrote:
>
> 12:02 PMOdd Bodkin
> On 3/17/2016 10:43 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ. When it is
>> shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away. There's just nowhere
>> to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are wrong.
>
> Exactly. And then, for them, the world will lose all meaning -- a
> disaster scenario.
>
> The other thing that happens is personal experience and the need for
> validation. John and BJ claim to have had direct contact with aliens. So
> when Boyd Bushman holds up a picture and claims that it's a picture of
> an alien that an alien took and gave to him, then this must be true,
> because it supports their own experience. When it turns out that Boyd is
> holding up a picture of a toy that's been on WalMart shelves for quite a
> while before Boyd revealed that "secret photo", then there's a scramble
> to make Boyd's claim true ANYWAY -- and that's where conspiracy theories
> and disinformation hypotheses get invented. When the creator of a fake
> alien autopsy movie says himself that it was fake, John and BJ cannot
> accept that as true, and so they will invent a secret cabal that is
> making him say that.
>
> See how the slide into madness happens, just because belief systems are
> so tightly held?
> ------------
>
> And the hole they have dug for themselves becomes a bottomless pit... A black hole from which there is no escape.
>
> "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout".
Babbling lies and fibs. HVAC never tells the truth about anyone. It's
his job to lie. He just makes stuff up and then laughs at anyone
stooopid enough to believe him. Neither John nor I have ever claimed
direct contact with Aliens. I presume you claim that you have and that's
how you know UFOs don't exist? Makes it kind of hard to explain the UFOs
I've seen, right? But oddly there were no aliens there to watch. I take
it you don't believe in lasers or lightning either. Only Kooks think
lasers are real. You said so and that makes it true. You are a true
waste of time.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 11:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ncenmp$1otf$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #563122 |
On 3/17/2016 11:45 AM, benj wrote: > Neither John nor I have ever claimed direct contact with Aliens. That's a lie, Ben. You can ask John yourself. He has posted in this group about his visitation and revelations from direct contact with an alien. OK, and what's true is that you have direct experience with UFOs. Same train of thought follows. You've seen UFOs, and John has spoken with aliens. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 10:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a5afa07b-a409-4772-bb8f-41d838d87d8e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563127 |
12:58 PMOdd Bodkin On 3/17/2016 11:45 AM, benj wrote: > Neither John nor I have ever claimed direct contact with Aliens. That's a lie, Ben. You can ask John yourself. He has posted in this group about his visitation and revelations from direct contact with an alien. OK, and what's true is that you have direct experience with UFOs. Same train of thought follows. You've seen UFOs, and John has spoken with aliens. ---------- And ghosts. BJ believes in ghosts. But for some reason he hates when I mention it
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 13:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gqBGy.43190$6%.34953@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #563106 |
On 03/17/2016 12:02 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/17/2016 10:43 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ.
>> When it is
>> shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away.
>> There's just nowhere
>> to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are
>> wrong.
>
> Exactly. And then, for them, the world will lose all meaning -- a
> disaster scenario.
>
> The other thing that happens is personal experience and the need for
> validation. John and BJ claim to have had direct contact with aliens. So
> when Boyd Bushman holds up a picture and claims that it's a picture of
> an alien that an alien took and gave to him, then this must be true,
> because it supports their own experience. When it turns out that Boyd is
> holding up a picture of a toy that's been on WalMart shelves for quite a
> while before Boyd revealed that "secret photo", then there's a scramble
> to make Boyd's claim true ANYWAY -- and that's where conspiracy theories
> and disinformation hypotheses get invented. When the creator of a fake
> alien autopsy movie says himself that it was fake, John and BJ cannot
> accept that as true, and so they will invent a secret cabal that is
> making him say that.
>
> See how the slide into madness happens, just because belief systems are
> so tightly held?
So you accept HVAC's "superpowers" as true? You can't be much of a
scientist if you accept the word of an INTERNET KOOK like HVAC as having
any remote connection to reality. Virtually NONE of the above statements
are true. Instead you rely on you faith-based science that blindly
accepts all establishment scenarios and assures us that politicians and
governments never lie nor get together to commit crimes. I've said Boyd
was fake (or fooled) right from the start, so why are you lying with
HVAC saying that I believe all this disinformation is true? So you now
join HVAC in the liars club here.
You are the rankest of the rank amateurs when it comes to science, Odd.
I'd be embarrassed to post the nonsense you and HVAC post and try to
pass off as knowledge. I really thought you were better than this. You
may not know what science is, but I expected a maker of wooden toys to
be more honest. How much formaldehyde in your toys and tools?
As I've said before: A huge government cover-up of UFO data that has
been going on since before WWII is BEYOND DOUBT! And that makes
virtually ALL public data about UFOs (Includes aliens and all that other
crap) suspect as being disinformation. I believe NOTHING of it that I
haven't seen with my own eyes. And you shouldn't either.
I take it you worship the establishment, but won't accept their own FOIA
documents as proof of anything! That is true kookery!
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 12:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ncep7l$1s79$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #563128 |
On 3/17/2016 12:02 PM, benj wrote: > Virtually NONE of the above statements are true. Instead you rely on you > faith-based science that blindly accepts all establishment scenarios and > assures us that politicians and governments never lie nor get together > to commit crimes. I've said Boyd was fake (or fooled) right from the > start, so why are you lying with HVAC saying that I believe all this > disinformation is true? So you now join HVAC in the liars club here. Alright then I stand corrected that you believe Boyd Bushman. However, John still believes that Boyd Bushman was telling the truth. And he believes that the toy debunking Bushman's photo of an alien is somehow part of a massive disinformation campaign, though he's hard-pressed to say how Wal-Mart got involved with it. I've never said that the government never lies. It has lied. This doesn't mean however that everything it says is a lie. When you say I assure you the government never lies, then YOU are lying. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 10:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <86d27681-2bb6-4be9-9c68-fb465fbb68b4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563134 |
BJ quacked > Virtually NONE of the above statements are true. Instead you rely on you > faith-based science that blindly accepts all establishment scenarios and > assures us that politicians and governments never lie nor get together > to commit crimes. I've said Boyd was fake (or fooled) right from the > start, so why are you lying with HVAC saying that I believe all this > disinformation is true? So you now join HVAC in the liars club here. ------------- Don't let BJ off the hook too easily. He may not believe in John's alien, but he does believe that aliens are here on earth... Now. He doesn't like to admit it publicly due to his shame, but BJ will never say that he doesn't believe in ghosts. He feels that if he calls them 'persistence of consciousness' it's better than saying he believes in ghosts. He also believes in haunted houses. Ask him. He'll sputter and not answer with a direct response. He also believes in ESP, although he will attempt to divert attention away from his kookiness by saying that belief isn't a part of science. All the while he believes. He is also big on government conspiracies. Everything from the faked moon landings to 9/11 to the Bilderbergers. In fact, BJ Believes In EVERY paranormal thing that has ever come down the pike. BJ's 'science' is faith based
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-17 11:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ddd5c441-bac7-421d-9eaf-c88f65e429b0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563150 |
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 1:56:41 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> > Virtually NONE of the above statements are true. Instead you rely on you
> > faith-based science that blindly accepts all establishment scenarios and
> > assures us that politicians and governments never lie nor get together
> > to commit crimes. I've said Boyd was fake (or fooled) right from the
> > start, so why are you lying with HVAC saying that I believe all this
> > disinformation is true? So you now join HVAC in the liars club here.
> -------------
The Hyenas {HVAC, Odd, Sam, and MM} Pack never find fault in eachother.
> Don't let BJ off the hook too easily. He may not believe in John's
> alien, but he does believe that aliens are here on earth... Now.
BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> He doesn't like to admit it publicly due to his shame, but BJ will
> never say that he doesn't believe in ghosts. He feels that if he
> calls them 'persistence of consciousness' it's better than saying he
> believes in ghosts.
BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> He also believes in haunted houses.
> Ask him. He'll sputter and not answer with a direct response.
BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> He also believes in ESP, although he will attempt to divert
> attention away from his kookiness by saying that belief isn't a part
> of science. All the while he believes.
BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> He is also big on government conspiracies. Everything from the faked
> moon landings to 9/11 to the Bilderbergers.
BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> In fact, BJ Believes In EVERY paranormal thing that has ever come
> down the pike.
BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
> BJ's 'science' is faith based
{HVAC, Odd, Sam, ...} == {Pot, Kettle, Black}
-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Hired Gangster Shills R Us us US...”
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-17 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e1436473-65fe-4ae8-8967-f7a388b3d398@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563156 |
Maple Loops says BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think. --------- I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses, god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make fun of him. What's wrong with that?
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 18:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vbarrc-nch.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #563158 |
HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote: > Maple Loops says > BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of > understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think. > --------- > > I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses, > god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make fun > of him. > > What's wrong with that? You do seem to have found all his buttons, but I am afraid he is going to blow a gasket. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 12:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <45389935-c747-4a17-a42a-6aca6da903be@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563158 |
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 2:24:01 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote: > Maple Loops says > BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of > understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think. > --------- > > I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses, > god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make > fun of him. > > What's wrong with that? Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER! Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC! Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP. Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?! Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC. Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way: a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY! b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously. c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?! d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls. e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs. f) All of the above and then some. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!”
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 15:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bRDGy.29081$Lw.25214@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #563167 |
On 03/17/2016 03:14 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 2:24:01 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>> Maple Loops says
>> BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
>> understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
>> ---------
>>
>> I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses,
>> god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make
>> fun of him.
>>
>> What's wrong with that?
>
> Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER!
>
> Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC!
>
> Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long
> as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic
> means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP.
> Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?!
>
> Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience
> reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute
> the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics
> discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC.
>
> Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way:
> a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY!
> b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously.
> c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?!
> d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls.
> e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs.
> f) All of the above and then some.
>
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!”
I pick "d", maple loops and I bet H&V does too! He's been worried about
seeing those gook ghosts (tm) for a long time. I hear it happens a lot
to baby killers like him.
Don't be so hard on old H&V. He (and his other 16 "personalities"
including Glazier) are just doing their job to try to kill the influence
of "social media" in science. We don't want to see an "MIT Spring" do
we? Odd and H&V will tell everybody what to "believe".
I know what you mean about the old days. I recall having a big go-round
with Uncle Al over his theories of chirality. What do you think are the
chances of HVAC even knowing how to spell the word, let alone know what
it means, let alone actually discuss it's relevance in physics!
Bwahahahaha!
Damn. We all miss Uncle Al. Now all we got is HVAC who is Al without any
intellect. (UA knew more SAT words than HVAC too) My only regrets are
that I can't get HVAC alone on alt.tasteless anymore. There would be
nothing left of him but a faint grogan stain.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 14:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ea291eb7-72cd-4a26-ba1c-4739c1510588@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563167 |
Mahipal - show quoted text - Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER! Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC! Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP. Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?! Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC. Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way: a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY! b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously. c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?! d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls. e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs. f) All of the above and then some. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!” -------------- Well, there you go
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 14:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ncf82s$ruu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #563167 |
"Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote: Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote, that... > Maple Loops says > BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of > understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think. > Harlow wrote: > I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses, > god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make > fun of him. > What's wrong with that? > Virdy wrote: Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER! Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC! Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP. Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?! Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC. Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way: a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY! b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously. c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?! d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls. e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs. f) All of the above and then some. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!” > hanson wrote: Virdy, the underlaying reason in your MCQ is missing. The answer is hidden in your hint that "Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others." > If you have followed the recent tripe in HVAC's s.p blog you must have seen that HVAC bitterly regrets, is distraught and clinically depressed because he can't deal and much less accept the fact that all of HVAC's daughters and his son, have grown up and now have left the home, which created a huge vacum in HVAC's persona. > HVAC WAS the undisputed king over them for 25 years. Now with all of his subjects gone they have left poor Harlow de-throned and alone and lonesome. > HVAC now being a King without subjects, desperately looks for Ersatz children, which he can boss & bully around again, re-establishing his kinkdom, and HVAC believes to have found a set of such peasants in form of the posters in s.p. > Unfortunately, those s.p. folks behave far worse then HVAC own kids did during their most rebellious teen years.. and that galls the scepter wielding HVAC to no end ... as HVAC begins to realize that HVAC's method of Ersatz parenting is being given the finger from all directions, day-in and day-out, no matter what HVAC says.... Pity, but IROTFLMAO... ahahahahahaa.. > Talk to you later, Virdy. > PS: The mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier> is calling again to be administered to with badly needed <http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 14:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <18c09bc9-9603-4e42-a528-6be53885109e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #563216 |
Most people find it's just easier to agree with me. Hanson "Mahipal" Virdy <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote: Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote, that... > Maple Loops says > BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of > understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think. > Harlow wrote: > I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses, > god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make > fun of him. > What's wrong with that? > Virdy wrote: Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER! Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC! Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP. Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?! Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC. Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way: a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY! b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously. c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?! d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls. e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs. f) All of the above and then some. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!” > hanson wrote: Virdy, the underlaying reason in your MCQ is missing. The answer is hidden in your hint that "Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others." > If you have followed the recent tripe in HVAC's s.p blog you must have seen that HVAC bitterly regrets, is distraught and clinically depressed because he can't deal and much less accept the fact that all of HVAC's daughters and his son, have grown up and now have left the home, which created a huge vacum in HVAC's persona. > HVAC WAS the undisputed king over them for 25 years. Now with all of his subjects gone they have left poor Harlow de-throned and alone and lonesome. > HVAC now being a King without subjects, desperately looks for Ersatz children, which he can boss & bully around again, re-establishing his kinkdom, and HVAC believes to have found a set of such peasants in form of the posters in s.p. > Unfortunately, those s.p. folks behave far worse then HVAC own kids did during their most rebellious teen years.. and that galls the scepter wielding HVAC to no end ... as HVAC begins to realize that HVAC's method of Ersatz parenting is being given the finger from all directions, day-in and day-out, no matter what HVAC says.... Pity, but IROTFLMAO... ahahahahahaa.. > Talk to you later, Virdy. > PS: The mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier> is calling again to be administered to with badly needed <http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 20:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <UnIGy.98877$qg.16778@fx35.iad> |
| In reply to | #563219 |
On 03/17/2016 05:50 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Most people find it's just easier to agree with me.
The road to Satan is paved with easy choices. Hail Satan!
> Hanson
> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote, that...
>> Maple Loops says
>> BJ is free to believe whatever he wants, despite your lack of
>> understanding or comprehending what exactly BJ may reason or think.
>>
> Harlow wrote:
>> I agree. BJ has the right to believe in ghosts, ESP, haunted houses,
>> god, aliens, and any other kooky ideas. I reserve the right to make
>> fun of him.
>> What's wrong with that?
>>
> Virdy wrote:
> Glad you HVAC asked. Now sit down and listen Soldier soldier SOLDIER!
>
> Usenet is not here for you HVAC to abuse others. Period. BitchHVAC!
>
> Usenet is a discussion group, all are generally welcomed here, as long
> as one stays on-topic. Yes HVAC, I mean you, look up what on-topic
> means. Got Dictionary?! Everyday you HVAC post the same crap Crap CRAP.
> Albeit in a nice new clean thread. Who reads or knows history, right?!
>
> Since nobody dares, seems to me, challenges you, per my experience
> reading here, you HVAC just encourage more worthless trolls to dilute
> the quality of this what once was a fantastic science/physics
> discussion newsgroup. Lose your Send key, HVAC.
>
> Multiple choice question (MCQ), since HVAC your brain works only that way:
> a) You HVAC are not being funny Funny FUNNY!
> b) You HVAC are a Usenet Bully, obviously.
> c) You HVAC are a Lonely Troll, hurts don't it?!
> d) You HVAC see the dead ghosts of many 8 year old Vietnamese girls.
> e) The longest answer is almost always correct in MCQs.
> f) All of the above and then some.
>
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: No more kid gloves, destroy the Bullies!”
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Virdy, the underlaying reason in your MCQ is missing.
> The answer is hidden in your hint that "Usenet is not
> here for you HVAC to abuse others."
>>
> If you have followed the recent tripe in HVAC's s.p blog
> you must have seen that HVAC bitterly regrets, is
> distraught and clinically depressed because he can't
> deal and much less accept the fact that all of HVAC's
> daughters and his son, have grown up and now have
> left the home, which created a huge vacum in HVAC's
> persona.
There are no kids.
> HVAC WAS the undisputed king over them for 25 years.
> Now with all of his subjects gone they have left poor
> Harlow de-throned and alone and lonesome.
And in HVAC's mind he is still lord an master over the imaginary children.
> HVAC now being a King without subjects, desperately
> looks for Ersatz children, which he can boss & bully
> around again, re-establishing his kinkdom, and HVAC
> believes to have found a set of such peasants in form
> of the posters in s.p.
"kinkdom"! Good one! :-) He desperately needs to feel "important" and
telling people how wonderful he is makes him feel that way. Hint: He's
not important nor is it how he feels. The poor paranoid kook thinks he's
got ESP and can tell what everyone is thinking!
> Unfortunately, those s.p. folks behave far worse then
> HVAC own kids did during their most rebellious teen
> years.. and that galls the scepter wielding HVAC to
> no end ... as HVAC begins to realize that HVAC's
> method of Ersatz parenting is being given the finger
> from all directions, day-in and day-out, no matter what
> HVAC says.... Pity, but IROTFLMAO... ahahahahahaa..
Me, behaving "Far worse" than HVAC? That's the highest praise I've had
in quite some time. (especially here) Thanks
> Talk to you later, Virdy.
Hanson you are the greatest purveyor of high wisdom since I read Rosenthal!
Cripes this post is a total mess! Attributes as if treebert wrote it.
The circulation to HVAC's brain must be being cut off again!
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 21:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ncg1e7$58n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #563248 |
"benj" Jacoby <none@gmail.com> wrote: > Hanson, you are the greatest purveyor of high wisdom. > hanson wrote: ahahahaha... Of course, of course, it's the horse of course, the pale Ghost rider-minder's in the kinkdom of HVAC, wherein Harlow purveys his Anti-Semitism that arises out of Harlow's belief in the space-time's curvature which is expanding space into space, none of which Harlow has never seen nor felt & much less has any grasp of what it means... > So therefore, Jacoby, you, who is the greatest purveyor of the highest form of instigation practices, should start off every post of yours with your initial 1-liner above, which will guarantee that Harlow will blindly jump up and down on Einstein's Rubber Trampoline, about which HVAC has no idea why it is there. Pity. But thanks for the laughs, guys... hahahahahanson
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