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Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN
Date 2016-03-17 11:02 -0500
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On 3/17/2016 10:43 AM, HVAC wrote:
> And that is the problem with the faith based 'science' of John and BJ. When it is
> shown that you are wrong, you cannot throw your old beliefs away. There's just nowhere
> to go. Their entire belief system will crumble if they admit they are wrong.

Exactly. And then, for them, the world will lose all meaning -- a 
disaster scenario.

The other thing that happens is personal experience and the need for 
validation. John and BJ claim to have had direct contact with aliens. So 
when Boyd Bushman holds up a picture and claims that it's a picture of 
an alien that an alien took and gave to him, then this must be true, 
because it supports their own experience. When it turns out that Boyd is 
holding up a picture of a toy that's been on WalMart shelves for quite a 
while before Boyd revealed that "secret photo", then there's a scramble 
to make Boyd's claim true ANYWAY -- and that's where conspiracy theories 
and disinformation hypotheses get invented. When the creator of a fake 
alien autopsy movie says himself that it was fake, John and BJ cannot 
accept that as true, and so they will invent a secret cabal that is 
making him say that.

See how the slide into madness happens, just because belief systems are 
so tightly held?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 21:22 -0500
  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:10 -0400
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-16 22:24 -0700
      Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 02:57 -0700
        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 03:47 -0700
          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 08:34 -0700
        Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:56 -0500
          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:33 -0700
            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:37 -0500
              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:53 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-17 15:32 +0000
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:39 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:07 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:25 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-17 16:12 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:12 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:09 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-18 10:51 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:58 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-03-18 11:27 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 00:39 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:43 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:02 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:22 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:45 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:58 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:08 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:02 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:24 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:56 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:12 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:23 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-17 18:41 +0000
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:14 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:47 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:37 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 14:40 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:50 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 20:57 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 21:51 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 22:42 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:20 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:09 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:48 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:06 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:40 -0400
                Re: BenJacoby and JohnSefton wear blinders. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 18:03 -0400
                Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 02:50 -0700
                Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:19 -0700
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 14:45 +0000
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 09:55 -0500
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:56 -0700
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:07 -0700
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:14 -0700
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:37 -0700
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 15:38 +0000
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-18 15:35 +0000
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 10:13 -0500
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. xxein1@att.net - 2016-03-18 16:52 -0700
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:34 -0500
                Re: Nature is omnipotent, omniscient and eternal. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:02 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:48 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 01:59 -0400
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:36 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:03 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:13 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 10:47 -0500
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 08:54 -0700
            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:54 -0700
              Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:17 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:36 -0700
                Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:55 -0700
            Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:19 -0500
          Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:58 -0700
  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-16 21:11 -0700
  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:36 -0700
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:13 -0400
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:10 -0500
    Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-17 20:55 -0700
  Re: The Search for New Physics at CERN "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 20:35 -0700

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