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  Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:08 -0500
    Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-03 21:31 +0000
    Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-03 17:02 -0500
    Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 12:28 +0000
    Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 06:48 -0700
    Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 15:19 -0700
      Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-06 17:13 -0700
        Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 19:19 -0500
          Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 14:17 -0500
        Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 13:44 -0700
          Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-05-07 16:29 -0700
    Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 15:29 -0700
      Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-05 23:22 -0400
      Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 15:56 -0500
        Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-07 21:07 +0000
        Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-07 17:33 -0500
        Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 16:51 -0700
          Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-08 01:49 +0000
          Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 12:56 -0500
            Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-05-08 11:21 -0700
              Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 13:49 -0500
                Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2016-05-08 16:25 -0700
            Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 16:47 -0700
              Re: Is it good if a vacuum really sucks? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 18:50 -0500

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#575260 — Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?

Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?

Please discuss.

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#575269

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> 
> Please discuss.

You suck.
 

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Jim Pennino

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#575272

On 5/3/2016 4:08 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>
> Please discuss.
>



by "really suck" assume you mean super high vacuum,

by "vacuum" assume you mean house hold vacuum cleaner

in that case is is bad, because high vacuum requires excellent seals at 
high rate, so a house hold application will burn out the seals in short 
order as the dust and dirt...

AND your flow rate will be very poor.  there is a trade off in design 
between how high vacuum, flow rate, particle size, motor size, cost etc.





however, if you mean by "vacuum" you have a vacuum in a bottle

and "really sucks" means it is a insufficient vacuum or contaminated vacuum.

in that case, you can get to a higher vacuum using a rotary vane pump, 
or diffusion pumps


if diffusion pump;  but don't open the door to the vacuum chamber and 
let all that atmospheric O2 in to greet the hot oil !!

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#575412

Sam Wormley wrote:
> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>
> Please discuss.
>
Only if it's a VAX.

/BAH

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#575432

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 12:08:51 AM UTC+3, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> 
> Please discuss.
> 
> -- 
> =======
idiot

only vacuum in air sucks 
not in real vacuum !!
Y.Porat
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#575885

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> 
> Please discuss.
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Vacuum keeps stuff moving to fill it in.Its amazing Earth has all that air surrounded by the the vacuum of space.Space has such a great vacuum. TreBert

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#576113

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> > 
> > Please discuss.
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> Vacuum keeps stuff moving to fill it in.Its amazing Earth has all that air surrounded by the the vacuum of space.Space has such a great vacuum. TreBert


Nature abhors a vacuum!  This is why I predict a strong third party arising out of all the voters who can neither support Trump nor Hillary!  

Double-A

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#576116

On 5/6/16 7:13 PM, Double-A wrote:

>
> Nature abhors a vacuum!  This is why I predict a strong third party arising out of all the voters who can neither support Trump nor Hillary!
>
> Double-A
>

   Americans Really Don’t Like Trump and Clinton
> https://politicalwire.com/2016/05/05/americans-really-dont-like-trump-and-clinton/

> Americans Really Don’t Like Trump and Clinton
>
> May 5, 2016By Taegan Goddard0 Comments
> FiveThirtyEight: “The Democratic primary will technically march on,
> but Hillary Clinton is almost certainly going to be her party’s
> nominee. Same with Donald Trump. And voters don’t appear thrilled at
> the prospect: Clinton and Trump are both more strongly disliked than
> any nominee at this point in the past 10 presidential cycles.”
>
> “These are people who don’t just like or dislike the candidates, they
> really like or dislike them. No past candidate comes close to
> Clinton, and especially Trump, in terms of engendering strong dislike
> a little more than six months before the election.”





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#576533

On 5/6/16 7:19 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>   Americans Really Don’t Like Trump and Clinton
>> https://politicalwire.com/2016/05/05/americans-really-dont-like-trump-and-clinton/
>>
>
>> Americans Really Don’t Like Trump and Clinton
>>
>> May 5, 2016By Taegan Goddard0 Comments
>> FiveThirtyEight: “The Democratic primary will technically march on,
>> but Hillary Clinton is almost certainly going to be her party’s
>> nominee. Same with Donald Trump. And voters don’t appear thrilled at
>> the prospect: Clinton and Trump are both more strongly disliked than
>> any nominee at this point in the past 10 presidential cycles.”
>>
>> “These are people who don’t just like or dislike the candidates, they
>> really like or dislike them. No past candidate comes close to
>> Clinton, and especially Trump, in terms of engendering strong dislike
>> a little more than six months before the election.”
>


   Voting with Feet: Who are Leaving Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump?
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.07103

> From a crowded field with 17 candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald
> Trump have emerged as the two front-runners in the 2016 U.S.
> presidential campaign. The two candidates each boast more than 5
> million followers on Twitter, and at the same time both have
> witnessed hundreds of thousands of people leave their camps. In this
> paper we attempt to characterize individuals who have left Hillary
> Clinton and Donald Trump between September 2015 and March 2016.

> Our study focuses on three dimensions of social demographics: social
> capital, gender, and age. Within each camp, we compare the
> characteristics of the current followers with former followers, i.e.,
> individuals who have left since September 2015. We use the number of
> followers to measure social capital, and profile images to infer
> gender and age. For classifying gender, we train a convolutional
> neural network (CNN). For age, we use the Face++ API.

> Our study shows that for both candidates followers with more social
> capital are more likely to leave (or switch camps). For both
> candidates females make up a larger presence among unfollowers than
> among current followers. Somewhat surprisingly, the effect is
> particularly pronounced for Clinton. Lastly, middle-aged individuals
> are more likely to leave Trump, and the young are more likely to
> leave Hillary Clinton.


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#576260

On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 5:13:30 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> > > 
> > > Please discuss.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > 
> > Vacuum keeps stuff moving to fill it in.Its amazing Earth has all that air surrounded by the the vacuum of space.Space has such a great vacuum. TreBert
> 
> 
> Nature abhors a vacuum!  This is why I predict a strong third party arising out of all the voters who can neither support Trump nor Hillary!  
> 
> Double-A

AA If I had Trump's $$$$$ and was 15 years younger I would run.Better to be a unknown.I would say all that is reality.Show what went wrong. How to get USA back to "WE The People" Get people back to respectable jobs.How to get bankers to give back the 13.5 trillion bucks.How to build machines better than China. Make people feel free,and happy.A chance to live healthy,and know the USA cares for its people. This I will do for the People of Fullerton.Their Health and Welfare.I want no $$$$ as mayor.I will give them 24 7  .TreBert

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#576330

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 1:44:35 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 5:13:30 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> > > > 
> > > > Please discuss.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > 
> > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > > 
> > > Vacuum keeps stuff moving to fill it in.Its amazing Earth has all that air surrounded by the the vacuum of space.Space has such a great vacuum. TreBert
> > 
> > 
> > Nature abhors a vacuum!  This is why I predict a strong third party arising out of all the voters who can neither support Trump nor Hillary!  
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> AA If I had Trump's $$$$$ and was 15 years younger I would run.Better to be a unknown.I would say all that is reality.Show what went wrong. How to get USA back to "WE The People" Get people back to respectable jobs.How to get bankers to give back the 13.5 trillion bucks.How to build machines better than China. Make people feel free,and happy.A chance to live healthy,and know the USA cares for its people. This I will do for the People of Fullerton.Their Health and Welfare.I want no $$$$ as mayor.I will give them 24 7  .TreBert


But this might be your only chance to think big and go for the big time!  You already know enough about politics to take the next step.  Age isn't all important.  Neither Trump nor Hillary are spring chickens.  Just pick a vigorous and healthy young Vice President so people will fell left in good hands should you not be able to serve out you full term.  If you headed up a third party, I would vote for you!

Double-A

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#575890

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> 
> Please discuss.

  Please define your terms.

"good"

"vacuum"

"really"

"sucks"


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#575942

On 05/05/2016 06:29 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>>
>> Please discuss.
>
>    Please define your terms.
>
> "good"
>
> "vacuum"
>
> "really"
>
> "sucks"
>
>
>    Mark L. Fergerson
>
Here I'll start and help him out:

Sucks

Well obviously this can mean a number of things.

For one it can mean unpleasant or disagreeable as in "This job sucks".

Or it can mean to be of poor or inferior quality as in "HVAC's knowledge 
of science sucks."

Or it can mean to be inept as in "Sam Wormley sucks at science and math"

Clearly the definition that fits here is number two. So now the question 
would be is an inferior vacuum "good".

I'll leave to others to determine what "good" means.

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#576264

On 5/5/16 5:29 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>>
>> Please discuss.
>
>   Please define your terms.
>
> "good"
>
> "vacuum"
>
> "really"
>
> "sucks"
>
>
>   Mark L. Fergerson
>

   DuckDuckGo is a really good way to look up the meanings of words.

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#576266

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/16 5:29 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>>>
>>> Please discuss.
>>
>>   Please define your terms.
>>
>> "good"
>>
>> "vacuum"
>>
>> "really"
>>
>> "sucks"
>>
>>
>>   Mark L. Fergerson
>>
> 
>   DuckDuckGo is a really good way to look up the meanings of words.

A dictionary is the best way to look up the meanings of words.

 

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#576316

On 5/7/2016 3:56 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/5/16 5:29 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>>>
>>> Please discuss.
>>
>>   Please define your terms.
>>
>> "good"
>>
>> "vacuum"
>>
>> "really"
>>
>> "sucks"
>>
>>
>>   Mark L. Fergerson
>>
>
>   DuckDuckGo is a really good way to look up the meanings of words.
>


Sam, you have one sentence with 4 general words....

"QuackQuackStop" is inverse of "DuckDuckGo"

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#576332

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 1:56:16 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/5/16 5:29 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
> >>
> >> Please discuss.
> >
> >   Please define your terms.
> >
> > "good"
> >
> > "vacuum"
> >
> > "really"
> >
> > "sucks"
> 
>    DuckDuckGo is a really good way to look up the meanings of words.

  I have actual dead-tree dictionaries.

  I asked for *your* terms- the meanings of the words as you intended them in the question you posted.

  Did you use "vacuum" as in what's in an evacuated container?

  Did you use "suck" in its derogatory sense? I'll point out that most people use it metaphorically to mean fellatio as a poor substitute for vaginal penetration, but a decent blow job is never a bad thing.

  Did you use "really" as a superlative? What can possibly be superlative about a vacuum other than fewer Torr? Wouldn't "good" cover that?

  In short, what the fuck are you talking about?


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#576351

nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 1:56:16 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 5/5/16 5:29 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 2:08:51 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> >> Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
>> >>
>> >> Please discuss.
>> >
>> >   Please define your terms.
>> >
>> > "good"
>> >
>> > "vacuum"
>> >
>> > "really"
>> >
>> > "sucks"
>> 
>>    DuckDuckGo is a really good way to look up the meanings of words.
> 
>   I have actual dead-tree dictionaries.
> 
>   I asked for *your* terms- the meanings of the words as you intended them in the question you posted.
> 
>   Did you use "vacuum" as in what's in an evacuated container?
> 
>   Did you use "suck" in its derogatory sense? I'll point out that most people use it metaphorically to mean fellatio as a poor substitute for vaginal penetration, but a decent blow job is never a bad thing.
> 
>   Did you use "really" as a superlative? What can possibly be superlative about a vacuum other than fewer Torr? Wouldn't "good" cover that?
> 
>   In short, what the fuck are you talking about?
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

You should know by now that on the very rare occasion when the copyright
violating, cut and paste spammer actually comments on one of his copies
of web site material, he usually fucks it up.


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#576509

On 5/7/16 6:51 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> I asked for *your* terms- the meanings of the words as you intended them in the question you posted.


   My intent was for the readers to use *their* terms, as should you.


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#576513

On Sunday, 8 May 2016 19:57:01 UTC+2, Sam Wormley  wrote:
> On 5/7/16 6:51 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> > I asked for *your* terms- the meanings of the words as you intended them in the question you posted.
> 
> 
>    My intent was for the readers to use *their* terms, as should you.
> 
> 

basic thermodynamics
things generally flow out of high energy stages and
into the colder empty ones.

so why is this good?
i can think of many reasons.

r.y

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