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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800 |
| Last post | 2019-01-09 21:35 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 194 — 20 participants |
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Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 01:45 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:02 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 02:37 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 19:28 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-30 22:09 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:14 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 09:48 -0600
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 04:57 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:34 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 00:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 00:31 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 03:20 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 04:40 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 05:06 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:30 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 08:42 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 09:27 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:25 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 12:53 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:08 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:44 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:15 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 18:36 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-02 22:54 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 11:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 14:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 21:40 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 22:49 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 12:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 09:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 18:23 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:04 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 19:59 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:27 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 20:18 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 12:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 11:30 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 13:20 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:30 -0500
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 16:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 17:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-05 23:08 -0600
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 21:01 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:56 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 22:37 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 06:31 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 16:54 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 09:30 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 18:27 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:30 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:38 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 14:04 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:46 +0000
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 14:05 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:44 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:53 +0100
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 02:11 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:57 +0100
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:55 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 01:49 +0100
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-09 04:48 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 15:27 +0100
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:47 +0100
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 10:58 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 16:21 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:38 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:54 +0100
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:35 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:51 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:02 +0100
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 15:04 -0500
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-07 01:34 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 03:07 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 11:55 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:32 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:32 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:37 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 13:21 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:30 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 15:02 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:00 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:36 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:45 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:43 -0500
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:52 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:39 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:18 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 01:27 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 17:50 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:38 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:27 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 11:11 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 20:52 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 04:55 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 05:12 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-06 10:34 -0600
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 12:39 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 09:31 -0600
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-08 05:00 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:57 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:30 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:54 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:00 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:33 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:45 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:42 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 12:05 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 20:50 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 13:13 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 21:48 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:01 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:11 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:17 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:50 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 00:00 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 16:13 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 01:47 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:00 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-01 13:36 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 02:33 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-04 16:26 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 08:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:28 -0500
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:51 -0800
Re: Push Gravity turcaudjp@gmail.com - 2019-01-01 02:13 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 16:33 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 16:33 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 15:12 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 15:09 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:24 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:54 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:57 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:23 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 02:44 +0000
I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-02 16:19 -0800
Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:27 -0500
Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:30 -0700
Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:30 -0700
PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-02 16:39 -0800
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me@ - 2019-01-02 17:43 -0700
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:53 -0500
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me@ - 2019-01-02 17:59 -0700
Re: PeeScent is homeless, I assume. Jeff-Relf.Me@ - 2019-01-03 07:13 -0700
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:47 -0500
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:51 -0700
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:22 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 02:44 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 23:49 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 02:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 02:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Arther Jackson <invalid@example.com> - 2019-01-04 15:10 -0800
Re: Push Gravity % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 16:12 -0700
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 19:41 -0500
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 23:17 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:17 -0500
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 14:41 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-06 10:35 -0600
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 23:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-01 02:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 01:59 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 02:15 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:14 +0000
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 09:57 -0800
Re: Push Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 14:08 -0800
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 14:42 -0800
Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 20:49 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:03 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 21:35 -0800
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800 |
| Subject | Push Gravity |
| Message-ID | <3abc90a3-925c-4d2f-9712-225293f6f66d@googlegroups.com> |
Electrons push on protons. The push is not mechanical, but relies on resonance of one wave with another. Two kinds of radiation come from electrons; just like stars radiate neutrinos and photons, electrons radiate a smaller version of these. The 1/2 spin of these neutrino miniatures RESONATES with the 1/2 spin of the proton when they are aligned. Therefore, protons are only absorbing along one direction in Space at any one time
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 01:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0bsbf$gq1$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #721650 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Electrons push on protons. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Electrons and protons ATTRACT each other, very strongly! Many, many orders of magnitude more than their mutual gravity!! You don't even know about the electromagnetic force?? <snip word salad> Now take your shovel and get the hell out of the graveyard!
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-30 18:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <da1c6c97-711f-4bb4-bcc7-658d3439a15c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721651 |
MM “Electrons and protons ATTRACT each other, very strongly! Many, many orders of magnitude more than their mutual gravity!! ” Of course they do. They have opposing spin. So why don’t they come together?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 02:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0bvdl$cs3$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #721653 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"Electrons and protons ATTRACT each other, very strongly! Many, many orders >of magnitude more than their mutual gravity!! " >Of course they do. They have opposing spin. No, they have opposite CHARGE. The spin may or may not be the same, or opposite. > So why don't they come together? They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom".
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-30 19:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <70503b21-2c12-47e2-8d93-62a1ebfc589c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721657 |
MM “They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom” Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. What keeps them from smashing into each other?
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-30 22:09 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <q0c4qa$1ugg$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721667 |
On 12/30/2018 9:28 PM, john wrote: > MM > “They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom” > Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. > What keeps them from smashing into each other? > because they are so small, think if they are so small, how could they smash into each other?
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| From | Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 07:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0cfkj$1c2f$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721673 |
Sergio wrote: > On 12/30/2018 9:28 PM, john wrote: >> MM “They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom” Electrons and protons pair >> up in all atoms. What keeps them from smashing into each other? > > because they are so small, > think if they are so small, how could they smash into each other? nonsense.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 09:48 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <q0ddns$1jib$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721694 |
On 12/31/2018 1:14 AM, Paul Dakota wrote: > Sergio wrote: > >> On 12/30/2018 9:28 PM, john wrote: >>> MM “They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom” Electrons and protons pair >>> up in all atoms. What keeps them from smashing into each other? >> >> because they are so small, >> think if they are so small, how could they smash into each other? > > nonsense. > scale it up, electron is only 2.82 x 10-13 cm. A proton is a very small part of a whole atom. The diameter of a proton is given as 10^ -15m. This is far too small for the human mind to imagine, let alone see. So to comprehend the size of a proton relative to an atom, you will have to scale up the atom first. Say you were to scale an atom, which includes the electron(s) orbiting the nucleus, to 50 meters. The nucleus in its center would be about ½ inch in size. Out of that, a single proton would amount to only half a millimeter. From this you can see that a single atom has lots of “free space” within itself and isn’t a single dot like one can imagine.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 04:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0c7jd$n85$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #721667 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" >Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. >What keeps them from smashing into each other? Quantum mechanics. See any freshman level chemistry or physics book.
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-30 23:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8a293f4b-3298-4b1d-b748-941986554545@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721677 |
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 6:57:21 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > >MM > >"They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" > >Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. > >What keeps them from smashing into each other? > > Quantum mechanics. > > See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. ========================== according to my findings ALL** FORCES ARE PUSH FORCES !! NO SUCH THING AS PULL FORCE IF YOU STUDY IT CAREFULLY YOU FIND THAT ''AT THE END OF THE DAY ''' IT IS ALL-- PUSH FORCES !! how come ?? see my Y.Circlon mechanism ===================================
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-30 23:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <15cba247-a7b0-4c72-b795-c5e7d9289845@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721695 |
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 9:19:53 AM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 6:57:21 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote: > > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > > > >MM > > >"They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" > > >Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. > > >What keeps them from smashing into each other? > > > > Quantum mechanics. > > > > See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. > ========================== > according to my findings > > ALL** FORCES ARE PUSH FORCES !! > NO SUCH THING AS PULL FORCE > IF YOU STUDY IT CAREFULLY > YOU FIND THAT > ''AT THE END OF THE DAY ''' > IT IS ALL-- PUSH FORCES !! > > how come ?? > see my Y.Circlon mechanism > =================================== and to be more specific and tangibly see http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract at its appendix TIA Y.P =====================
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| From | Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 07:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0cgq9$1gno$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721695 |
poraty6 wrote: > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 6:57:21 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >> >> >MM "They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" Electrons and protons pair >> >up in all atoms. What keeps them from smashing into each other? >> >> Quantum mechanics. See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. > ========================== > according to my findings > > ALL** FORCES ARE PUSH FORCES !! > NO SUCH THING AS PULL FORCE IF YOU STUDY IT CAREFULLY YOU FIND THAT > ''AT THE END OF THE DAY ''' IT IS ALL-- PUSH FORCES !! drag forces are bigger than push forces.
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 00:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <dabf2241-7318-431f-94bd-f0c09d802980@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721698 |
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 9:34:38 AM UTC+2, Paul Dakota wrote: > poraty6 wrote: > > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 6:57:21 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > >> > >> >MM "They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" Electrons and protons pair > >> >up in all atoms. What keeps them from smashing into each other? > >> > >> Quantum mechanics. See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. > > ========================== > > according to my findings > > > > ALL** FORCES ARE PUSH FORCES !! > > NO SUCH THING AS PULL FORCE IF YOU STUDY IT CAREFULLY YOU FIND THAT > > ''AT THE END OF THE DAY ''' IT IS ALL-- PUSH FORCES !! > > drag forces are bigger than push forces. =========== (:-) 1 why 2 does particles that make Drag force has some rubber strings to do the pull ?? what are those 'rubber string '' made of ?? 3 what is more likely push momentum --by collision ? or ''pull momentum''' by what ? how pull momentum is done ?? may be by some mysterious glue ??.. ======= TIA Y.Porat =====================
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 00:31 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e164b1a9-1511-41ea-9b85-c2124cd90a59@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721677 |
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 8:57:21 PM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > >MM > >"They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" > >Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. > >What keeps them from smashing into each other? > > Quantum mechanics. > > See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. Stupid answer.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 03:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6c9d1f81-2e06-44d6-a6c8-0e37f7350966@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721677 |
MM “>"They do. It's called a "hydrogen atom" >Electrons and protons pair up in all atoms. >What keeps them from smashing into each other? Quantum mechanics. See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. ” So when considering the very small, your suck model of gravity, for which you have no mechanism, has protons and electrons SUCKING each other together gravitationally AND sucking each other together electrically, but they don’t crash together because magical QM keeps them apart- how?- and when considering the very large, it doesn’t work unless you invoke Dark Matter, which has never been demonstrated after years of looking. Gotcha.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 04:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d06ffc13-d202-4f93-8a75-bed7d77222ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721718 |
MM “See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. ” So when considering the very small, your suck model of gravity, for which you have no mechanism, has protons and electrons SUCKING each other together gravitationally AND sucking each other together electrically, but they don’t crash together because magical QM keeps them apart- how?- and when considering the very large, it doesn’t work unless you invoke Dark Matter, which has never been demonstrated after years of looking. Gotcha. ” So Michael. The gravity theory that YOU believe FAILS at the very small, FAILS at the very large, and FAILS at providing a mechanism. And you’re worried that shielding hasn’t been demonstrated with push gravity? Except the Allais effect, of course. Gotcha. Talk about selective criticism
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 05:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b4938846-09ab-4256-b7f0-c67087b6dcd9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721720 |
MM ““See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. ” So when considering the very small, your suck model of gravity, for which you have no mechanism, has protons and electrons SUCKING each other together gravitationally AND sucking each other together electrically, but they don’t crash together because magical QM keeps them apart- how?- and when considering the very large, it doesn’t work unless you invoke Dark Matter, which has never been demonstrated after years of looking. Gotcha. ” So Michael. The gravity theory that YOU believe FAILS at the very small, FAILS at the very large, and FAILS at providing a mechanism. And you’re worried that shielding hasn’t been demonstrated with push gravity? Except the Allais effect, of course. Gotcha. Talk about selective criticism ” Let’s highlight your schizophrenia a little more: you say the electrons couldn’t be radiating or they would lose energy and crash into the proton. However, you and Odd say they don’t have a pathway- they are DISTRIBUTED but have kinetic energy. So none of this kinetic energy must be towards the proton, right? So, their kinetic energy has to have any direction EXCEPT towards the proton, in spite of the fact that you say the electrons are attracted to the proton both gravitationally and electrically? Is that right? However electrons can be EXCITED and move to- where? Distributed but further away? So then why can a photon knock them out sometimes but not other times? And how, when that happens, can they immediately have relativistic speed? Are you seeing how totally scattered the shit you believe has become? Time to take your shovel and start digging, bud. Your stuff stinks
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 14:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0d96o$ve8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721724 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > ““See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. ” > > So when considering the very small, your suck model of gravity, for which > you have no mechanism, has protons and electrons SUCKING each other > together gravitationally AND sucking each other together electrically, > but they don’t crash together because magical QM keeps them apart- how?- > and when considering the very large, it doesn’t work unless you invoke > Dark Matter, which has never been demonstrated after years of looking. > Gotcha. ” > So Michael. > The gravity theory that YOU believe FAILS at the very small, FAILS at the > very large, and FAILS at providing a mechanism. > And you’re worried that shielding hasn’t been demonstrated with push gravity? > Except the Allais effect, of course. > > Gotcha. Talk about selective criticism ” > > Let’s highlight your schizophrenia a little more: you say the electrons > couldn’t be radiating or they would lose energy and crash into the > proton. However, you and Odd say they don’t have a pathway- they are > DISTRIBUTED but have kinetic energy. So none of this kinetic energy must > be towards the proton, right? This is a prime example of why you get mocked, John. You have in your head things like flowing energy in this direction or that because this is just how your mind fabricates those concepts. It never crosses your mind to read a freshman text where the difference is explained between scalar and vector quantities, and that one kind has direction and the other does not, and which physics quantities are of what type. Had you done that, you would have been confronted with the fact that kinetic energy DOES NOT HAVE any direction, and so statements like “kinetic energy toward” this or that just don’t have meaning in physics EVEN IF such phrases make sense to you. All this points out is that you use physics words without understanding their content. You call this schizophrenia when it is just the jumble and conflict between what the words actually mean and what you IMAGINE they mean. And you will certainly say at some point that I’m an asshole for pointing this out. > So, their kinetic energy has to have any direction EXCEPT towards the > proton, in spite of the fact that you say the electrons are attracted to > the proton both gravitationally and electrically? > Is that right? > However electrons can be EXCITED and move to- where? Distributed but > further away? So then why can a photon knock them out sometimes but not > other times? And how, when that happens, can they immediately have relativistic speed? > Are you seeing how totally scattered the shit you believe has become? > Time to take your shovel and start digging, bud. > Your stuff stinks > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 08:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <455938c8-4dfc-4ff2-b96d-007daee7daa5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721728 |
Odd “the fact that kinetic energy DOES NOT HAVE any direction, and so statements like “kinetic energy toward” this or that just don’t have meaning in physics” But Odd!! If the electrons were radiating, they would ‘spiral into the nucleus”. That’s YOUR objection. So if your ‘distributed electron’ (hahaha) loses some energy, then you’re saying that suddenly it WILL change its directionless kinetic energy into directed towards the nucleus? And spiral in? Because obviously the base level energy DOESNT, right? Sorry, but so many of your physics concepts just don’t seem to HAVE any meaning. You know? How can “directionless” mean “always away from, counter to, the gravitational AND electric attraction of the nucleus? And how can “directionless “, when given MORE energy, result in the excited Bohr series of energy changes? Huhn?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 09:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6069d418-1df3-4eb0-aa22-e0b94c3344e2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721737 |
Odd and MM and PD You guys are so funny as you wildly backpedal into more and more precarious ridiculousness. Distributed electrons that appear to have a period according to attophysics, and can only be impacted at certain time intervals and when they do, their ‘kinetic directionless energy ‘ (lmao) changes into directed energy and they exit the atom at incredible speeds. And when excited, they go into a ‘higher’ orbital, but still apparently go nowhere? And then when they give up some energy, what?, they all mail it to a central ‘photon-making machine’ of some kind? But, wait, wait. Gravity is even better. You have NO MECHANISM- matter, according to you just ‘knows’ that other matter is present, because the Space is ‘warped’. But then since that doesn’t work for galaxies you pluck an ‘entirely new form’ of matter out of thin air to account for that which STILL- after 40 years- has not been demonstrated. But forget that. Explain to me how electrons are held separate from protons in the atom when the two- according to you- are both gravitationally and electrically ATTRACTED together by a ‘directionless’ kinetic energy. Go go go, woodworker Odd!
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