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| Started by | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-15 17:17 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-11-21 13:50 -0600 |
| Articles | 4 on this page of 24 — 12 participants |
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What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:17 +0000
Re:What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-15 19:54 +0100
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-15 20:32 +0100
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Shon Wible <shwn@shouve.wd> - 2018-11-16 20:22 +0000
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-19 17:26 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lochù Umská <lare@cpi2alwa.cc> - 2018-11-19 23:35 +0000
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-19 22:05 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Elden Lathan <an@tnettw.ea> - 2018-11-22 19:25 +0000
Gravitational waves (was: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-20 03:11 +0100
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-19 22:23 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 11:46 -0500
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-20 21:26 +0100
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-20 15:51 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Paul Edgar <lara@uldewan.lg> - 2018-11-21 18:12 +0000
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-21 13:43 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 20:54 +0000
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-19 21:57 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-20 09:16 +0100
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-20 17:48 +0000
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 12:47 +0000
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-20 10:01 -0600
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 08:22 -0800
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 12:10 -0500
Re: What Every Physicist Needs to Know..............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-21 13:50 -0600
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 10:01 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <pt1b5b$14jg$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713467 |
On 11/19/2018 9:57 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 11/15/2018 2:54 PM, Keith Stein wrote: >> On 15/11/2018 18:54, Libor Striz wrote: >>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> Wrote in message: >>>> How to Program a Computer eh! >>> >>> They have programmers for that. >> >> But what you are completely missing Mr.Striz >> is just how very much easier physics is, when >> you know how to program a computer. You need >> to learn to think like a computer, Mr.Striz. > > na, > computers think in binary, 1's and 0's and they have an accumulator, > that is about it, everything else is support. > > 64 bit ? means 64 bit wide accumulator > > >>> >> HOW WOULD A COMPUTER SOLVE THE PROBLEM eh! > walk back into ancient history; 64 bit is the size of the data bus, the width of the data word, which is directly dependent on the size of accummulator or regester. remember ? 4 bit (nibble) 8 bit (one byte) 16 bit (double byte) 32 bit (systems mostly before windows xp) 64 bit
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 08:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <40bf5384-7503-4d62-8bad-ce18821fad13@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #712892 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 3:54:51 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: > On 15/11/2018 18:54, Libor Striz wrote: > > Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> Wrote in message: > >> How to Program a Computer eh! > > > > They have programmers for that. > > But what you are completely missing Mr.Striz > is just how very much easier physics is, when > you know how to program a computer. You need > to learn to think like a computer, Mr.Striz. > > > HOW WOULD A COMPUTER SOLVE THE PROBLEM eh! First off, computers don't solve problems. They compute only based on the instructions and data provided. Second, I am curious. What justification do you have for this remark? Did Newton, Kepler, Copernicus need computers? Did Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg need computers? Please explain. Please note, Physics majors have been taught programming since at least the 1970's. so you are not suggesting a new idea in the Physics curriculum, eh! Ed
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 12:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pt1f72$1cgv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713500 |
On 11/20/2018 11:22 AM, Edward Prochak wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 3:54:51 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: >> On 15/11/2018 18:54, Libor Striz wrote: >>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> Wrote in message: >>>> How to Program a Computer eh! >>> >>> They have programmers for that. >> >> But what you are completely missing Mr.Striz >> is just how very much easier physics is, when >> you know how to program a computer. You need >> to learn to think like a computer, Mr.Striz. >>> >> HOW WOULD A COMPUTER SOLVE THE PROBLEM eh! > > First off, computers don't solve problems. > They compute only based on the instructions > and data provided. Of course they do. They calculate answers to "problems" that have been posed to them, but they do not create theories. > Second, I am curious. What justification do you > have for this remark? Did Newton, Kepler, > Copernicus need computers? Did Einstein, Bohr, > Heisenberg need computers? Please explain. Well, hell yes they did. What's your idea? They went to Dephi and got a reading to get their theories? It makes NO difference if one does calculations with a pencil (pen) and paper as did old timers or if one uses a machine to do the work. It's only a matter of speed and degree. > Please note, Physics majors have been taught programming > since at least the 1970's. so you are not suggesting a > new idea in the Physics curriculum, eh! Longer than that. Slide rules are computers too. Pen and paper is computing too. Computer "programming" is actually irrelevant to physics because you only need the results, you don't need to know how to program it yourself anymore than you need to know how to run a lathe if you want a cylindrical piece of aluminum. Do they have shop courses in physics curriculum? Ed, clearly you have obviously thought about none of this stuff. > Ed >
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 13:50 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <pt4cui$bdu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713517 |
On 11/20/2018 11:10 AM, benj wrote: > On 11/20/2018 11:22 AM, Edward Prochak wrote: >> On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 3:54:51 PM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote: >>> On 15/11/2018 18:54, Libor Striz wrote: >>>> Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> Wrote in message: >>>>> How to Program a Computer eh! >>>> >>>> They have programmers for that. >>> >>> But what you are completely missing Mr.Striz >>> is just how very much easier physics is, when >>> you know how to program a computer. You need >>> to learn to think like a computer, Mr.Striz. >>>> >>> HOW WOULD A COMPUTER SOLVE THE PROBLEM eh! >> >> First off, computers don't solve problems. >> They compute only based on the instructions >> and data provided. > > Of course they do. They calculate answers to "problems" that have been > posed to them, but they do not create theories. > >> Second, I am curious. What justification do you >> have for this remark? Did Newton, Kepler, >> Copernicus need computers? Did Einstein, Bohr, >> Heisenberg need computers? Please explain. > > Well, hell yes they did. What's your idea? They went to Dephi and got a > reading to get their theories? It makes NO difference if one does > calculations with a pencil (pen) and paper as did old timers or if one > uses a machine to do the work. It's only a matter of speed and degree. > >> Please note, Physics majors have been taught programming >> since at least the 1970's. so you are not suggesting a >> new idea in the Physics curriculum, eh! > > Longer than that. Slide rules are computers too. Pen and paper is > computing too. Computer "programming" is actually irrelevant to physics > because you only need the results, you don't need to know how to program > it yourself anymore than you need to know how to run a lathe if you want > a cylindrical piece of aluminum. Do they have shop courses in physics > curriculum? > > Ed, clearly you have obviously thought about none of this stuff. > >> Ed >> > with bigger slide rules can you can get 64 bit precision... bonus question: how much bigger ? take a 18 inch picket, you can get about 6 digits of mantissa (significand) if you have great eyesight, 6 digits is 48 bit how much bigger does the slide rule have to be to get to 64 bit ? (assuming same eyesight) [ yea, on campus they used to call us lizards, back then ]
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