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IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !!

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  IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:09 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:14 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 05:43 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 06:00 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:53 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! nobody@invalid.invalid - 2018-07-26 11:56 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:08 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:07 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:02 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:45 +0000
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:36 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:05 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:38 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 03:08 +0000
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 21:27 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:34 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 04:43 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:51 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 05:08 +0000
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:35 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:41 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:59 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 23:05 -0700
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:05 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 01:22 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:02 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:26 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:50 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 16:13 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:31 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:24 -0700
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:43 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:25 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:23 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:50 +0000
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 18:45 -0700
                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:50 -0700
                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:57 -0700
                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:39 -0700
                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 11:22 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:07 +0000
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 17:06 -0400
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 01:11 +0000
                                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 04:46 -0700
                                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:41 +0000
                                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 06:09 -0700
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:42 +0000
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 11:56 -0700
                                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-02 03:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 04:57 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:25 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:47 +0000
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:55 +0000
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:25 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 11:47 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:16 -0400
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:02 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 12:44 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:55 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:09 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 23:24 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 04:52 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 07:20 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0400
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-04 14:24 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 00:02 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 12:29 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 19:32 +0000
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:24 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:14 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-05 00:48 +0000
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 08:13 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 10:14 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 04:16 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 00:25 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 01:36 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-04 17:58 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 03:54 -0700
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#696859

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-03 04:57 -0700
Message-ID<4fc3874e-14ac-44af-987b-34e3e5fd3e49@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696724
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 1:45:10 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:56:50 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:09:16 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> > > Odd
> > > “So when you say “value logic”, what EXACTLY do you mean by “logic” there”
> > > 
> > > New ideas require new terms.
> > > No one has suggested emr radiations that re-occur in mini form to accompany Fractal-recurring matter before. Have they? So call them Fractal neutrinos. Logical.
> > > 
> > > It’s like when you say the ‘spin’ of matter is not spin as we know it, and then say my spinning/precessing pathway has never been known to happen, and then choose ‘no structure’ versus ‘structure not yet seen’ when no structure has never yet been seen. You’re just contrary
> > ==============================
> > indeed 
> > 
> > spin is nothing as we know as spin 
> > if you take the 'spin of silver as in the famous   experiment  it is because Silver has an 
> > **edge orbital**that is directed sideways so it can ne
> > diverted  50 percent to one  side in the magnetic field 
> > or to the other symmetric side 
> > 50 percent probability to  each antimetric side 
> > (the stream of silver  ions 
> > is split to  2 symmetric streams 
> > my model of Silver
> > shows it clearly tangibly !!
> > 2
> > it has nothing to do with my op post !!
> > about  push forces !!
> > =====
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > 
> 
> ===========================
> now
> =SEE ''HALIDAY AND RESNIK'' (famous physics book   
> 
> about 
> magnetism and matter *!!!   
> **** MATTER   !!!!!!!!
> what is *matter**'doing   here/there in  a magnetic experiment 
> 
> WITH AN IRON RODD !! ???
> ---
> (in my version it is about PSAGE 920)
> anyway 
> 
> you will  see there a
> picture from a*** real experiment** !!
> real 
> not a ''drawing'' from someone's imagination !!
> ==and you will see there some
> strange ***curved**   force lines''
> stemming in and   out of that rod  !!
> 
> does it 'click' something in your head
> (provided you  have  one ..!!??
> =======
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> =============================

and  now 
I am waiting for the crock Bodkin (draper)
to fabricate a document 
showing that the 
assertion that 
'MASS IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDIN  GGRAVITY''

was actually found by a physicist named
Roman Polansky

100 years before me !

TIA
Y.Porat
=======================

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#696582

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-01 01:25 -0700
Message-ID<b3f6b4f5-2332-4c98-9f9e-3ac8210d4a56@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696511
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:22:34 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Porat 
> “but how  is that push force  acting ?? 
> TIA 
> Y.“
> 
> Fractal neutrinos
========================
I showed it **many*** times 
Google
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

AT ITS APPENDIX !!!!


TIA
Y.P
=====================================

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#695964

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 23:47 +0000
Message-ID<pjgau9$p9a$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695913
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"BTW still waiting for the source of the enormous torque needed to precess
>a galaxy like.."
>I said what I said.
>Wait

Wait for what? For you to see a doctor about your OCD? I'll be waiting 
forever!

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#695871

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 14:55 +0000
Message-ID<pjfboo$e2$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695841
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
>than you do?"
>Still haven't found any.

So they all hide when they see you approaching?

>Observations of satellite galaxies congregated in the same plane makes it 
>EVEN less likely (hard to do)

Explain why you believe that?

(not holding my breat awaiting an answer)

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#695774

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 15:25 -0700
Message-ID<8a6ee0e3-6284-431a-b8d6-a8cc5f48e6c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695756
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 12:02:42 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Nob 
> “Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will change 
> physics forever!! ”
> A couple of guys called Fabio and Le Sage came up with that idea first. I’m sure you would have to look them up, but won’t
=======================
John
can you bring quotes from them 

and their explanations for it ??

TIA
Y.P
======================

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#696905

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 11:47 -0700
Message-ID<25c18ec2-2c81-4132-bd10-42ee11ee0f39@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695658
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> 
> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> in your body 
> it is push forces !
> 
> 
> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm 
> upwards 
> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth 
> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism 
> based on  push
> not on pull !!!
> -----------
> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> believe it or not 
> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> '''at the end  of the say''
>  PUSH NOT PULL 
> if you don't understand9
> -ask !!!
> ===========================================================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ========================
> 
>  !!

Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert

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#696915

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 15:16 -0400
Message-ID<pk29ms$1qpt$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#696905
On 8/3/2018 2:47 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
>> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
>> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
>>
>> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
>> in your body
>> it is push forces !
>>
>>
>> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
>> upwards
>> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
>> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
>> based on  push
>> not on pull !!!
>> -----------
>> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
>> believe it or not
>> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
>> '''at the end  of the say''
>>   PUSH NOT PULL
>> if you don't understand9
>> -ask !!!
>> ===========================================================
>> TIA
>> Y.Porat
>> ========================
>>
>>   !!
> 
> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> 
There is no "pull" you senile old coot.

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#696973

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-03 20:02 -0700
Message-ID<2f2f60cf-3a6c-4ce3-a94a-f5d11c60bb5f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696915
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:16:48 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> On 8/3/2018 2:47 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> >> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> >>
> >> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> >> in your body
> >> it is push forces !
> >>
> >>
> >> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
> >> upwards
> >> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
> >> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
> >> based on  push
> >> not on pull !!!
> >> -----------
> >> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> >> believe it or not
> >> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> >> '''at the end  of the say''
> >>   PUSH NOT PULL
> >> if you don't understand9
> >> -ask !!!
> >> ===========================================================
> >> TIA
> >> Y.Porat
> >> ========================
> >>
> >>   !!
> > 
> > Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> > 
> There is no "pull" you senile old coot.
===================
right !!you start tgetit 
see
the 
y circlon mechanism ''!
=====
TIA
Y.Porat
===============================

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#696918

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 12:44 -0700
Message-ID<55614479-4f07-4b18-832d-84e2c4337a1a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696905
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:47:38 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> > it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> > 
> > take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> > in your body 
> > it is push forces !
> > 
> > 
> > the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm 
> > upwards 
> > it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth 
> > and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism 
> > based on  push
> > not on pull !!!
> > -----------
> > and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> > believe it or not 
> > even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> > '''at the end  of the say''
> >  PUSH NOT PULL 
> > if you don't understand9
> > -ask !!!
> > ===========================================================
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ========================
> > 
> >  !!
> 
> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert

Universe largest two energies are push and pull. Both are a work in both realms.Bert

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#696921

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-03 15:55 -0400
Message-ID<pk2bug$1ugb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#696918
On 8/3/2018 3:44 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:47:38 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
>>> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
>>>
>>> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
>>> in your body
>>> it is push forces !
>>>
>>>
>>> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
>>> upwards
>>> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
>>> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
>>> based on  push
>>> not on pull !!!
>>> -----------
>>> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
>>> believe it or not
>>> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
>>> '''at the end  of the say''
>>>   PUSH NOT PULL
>>> if you don't understand9
>>> -ask !!!
>>> ===========================================================
>>> TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ========================
>>>
>>>   !!
>>
>> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> 
> Universe largest two energies are push and pull. Both are a work in both realms.Bert
> 
Bert has spoken folks. The universe is made of microbes and strings and 
the strings pull on everything! That is a given.

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#696974

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-03 20:09 -0700
Message-ID<553472f5-27f9-465e-b774-1cda9426369c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696921
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:55:02 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> On 8/3/2018 3:44 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:47:38 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> >>> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> >>>
> >>> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> >>> in your body
> >>> it is push forces !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
> >>> upwards
> >>> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
> >>> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
> >>> based on  push
> >>> not on pull !!!
> >>> -----------
> >>> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> >>> believe it or not
> >>> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> >>> '''at the end  of the say''
> >>>   PUSH NOT PULL
> >>> if you don't understand9
> >>> -ask !!!
> >>> ===========================================================
> >>> TIA
> >>> Y.Porat
> >>> ========================
> >>>
> >>>   !!
> >>
> >> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> > 
> > Universe largest two energies are push and pull. Both are a work in both realms.Bert
> > 
> Bert has spoken folks. The universe is made of microbes and strings and 
> the strings pull on everything! That is a given.
===========================
(:-)
right !!
2 ''elastic'' objects 
can  only  push themselves apart 
no 'rubber strings '' there 

and even in that'' rubber string' that we know ''well '
from every day life 
it is not that simple to understand !!!

====
Y.P
=================

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#696982

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-03 23:24 -0700
Message-ID<d0c97f4b-6164-4f08-a96a-780460f112f8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696921
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:55:02 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> On 8/3/2018 3:44 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:47:38 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> >>> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> >>>
> >>> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> >>> in your body
> >>> it is push forces !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
> >>> upwards
> >>> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
> >>> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
> >>> based on  push
> >>> not on pull !!!
> >>> -----------
> >>> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> >>> believe it or not
> >>> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> >>> '''at the end  of the say''
> >>>   PUSH NOT PULL
> >>> if you don't understand9
> >>> -ask !!!
> >>> ===========================================================
> >>> TIA
> >>> Y.Porat
> >>> ========================
> >>>
> >>>   !!
> >>
> >> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> > 
> > Universe largest two energies are push and pull. Both are a work in both realms.Bert
> > 
> Bert has spoken folks. The universe is made of microbes and strings and 
> the strings pull on everything! That is a given.
===================================
(:-)

you  must be joking !!
see again my op post 
about how our blood and breathing are circulating 

ONLY  PUSH !!  nothing  pull !!~
do you think that we pool air to our lungs ??

nothing like that
if you examine it carefully you  find that
we are entering air to our lungs 
not by pul
but by the push (push) of our atmosphere high
above 
air has weight !!
and that is what is pushing it to our lungs !!!
2
I  forgot to mention it 
see Google

the y circlon mechanism !!
=
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

**at its appendix !!
how push is done :

by forwards backwards  movement** collision movement** 
of **curved moving basic particles **
that move 
naturally** in  curved lines (that is 'how it was 'born'
THAT PRODUCE PUSH !!!FORCE !!and 'eternal' 'pull '' forces as well 
 
no more f en ''curved space'' !!any more !!
ie
a new basic  unprecedented  assertion in physics !!
==
TIA
Y.Porat
===================






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#697002

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-04 04:52 -0700
Message-ID<ad9fe1ca-70ae-4278-b913-ef5428e9676f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696982
“unprecedented”

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#697008

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-04 07:20 -0700
Message-ID<1d6be9e2-500d-4e46-ace5-38b78ce9754b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697002
Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he’s a kook.
He helped invent The Calculus.
He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
Michael thinks he’s a kook.


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#697017

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-04 12:37 -0400
Message-ID<pk4ko3$1bbf$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697008
On 8/4/2018 10:20 AM, john wrote:
> Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> He helped invent The Calculus.
> He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
> Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> 
> 
> 
Hey. Michael is a major kook and therefore an expert on the subject!

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#697029

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-08-04 14:24 -0700
Message-ID<5c64893e-c919-4fce-a61f-93cf2200dc73@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697008
On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> He helped invent The Calculus.
> He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
> Michael thinks he’s a kook.


Nicolas Fatio de Duillier?  Seemed to be quite a sharp tack to me.

Double-A

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#697063

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-05 00:02 -0700
Message-ID<09eaa226-f750-4a94-9b37-14f4fb720175@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697029
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:24:07 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> > Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> > He helped invent The Calculus.
> > He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
> > Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> 
> 
> Nicolas Fatio de Duillier?  Seemed to be quite a sharp tack to me.
> 
> Double-A
=====================
Dear  A A 
Fatio

used 
]
the y circlon mechanism ''
to explain  gravity >>

2

did he used  'curved space '
to explain gravity ?
===
TIA
Y.Porat
==========================

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#697125

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-08-05 12:29 -0700
Message-ID<0ad3bcd3-fca9-41e8-a58c-07f6c413340b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697063
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:02:17 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:24:07 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> > > Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> > > He helped invent The Calculus.
> > > He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
> > > Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> > 
> > 
> > Nicolas Fatio de Duillier?  Seemed to be quite a sharp tack to me.
> > 
> > Double-A
> =====================
> Dear  A A 
> Fatio
> 
> used 
> ]
> the y circlon mechanism ''
> to explain  gravity >>
> 
> 2
> 
> did he used  'curved space '
> to explain gravity ?
> ===
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ==========================


Why is it than when I do a search on "y circlon", all that comes up is your name?

Double-A

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#697127

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 19:32 +0000
Message-ID<pk7jcf$190$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697125
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:02:17 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:24:07 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>>> Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a
>>>> friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks hes a kook.
>>>> He helped invent The Calculus.
>>>> He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
>>>> Michael thinks hes a kook.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nicolas Fatio de Duillier?  Seemed to be quite a sharp tack to me.
>>> 
>>> Double-A
>> ====================> Dear  A A 
>> Fatio
>> 
>> used 
>> ]
>> the y circlon mechanism ''
>> to explain  gravity >>
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> did he used  'curved space '
>> to explain gravity ?
>> ==> TIA
>> Y.Porat
>> =========================
> 
> Why is it than when I do a search on "y circlon", all that comes up is your name?
> 
> Double-A
> 
> 

Because no one is interested in it except him. And he’s convinced he’s
revolutionizing physics. A bridge engineer. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697159

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-05 17:24 -0700
Message-ID<99a0cb3d-d011-4c24-a60a-a2ebfa04b1a1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697127
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 10:32:36 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:02:17 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:24:07 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> >>>> Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a
> >>>> friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he s a kook.
> >>>> He helped invent The Calculus.
> >>>> He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
> >>>> Michael thinks he s a kook.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Nicolas Fatio de Duillier?  Seemed to be quite a sharp tack to me.
> >>> 
> >>> Double-A
> >> ====================> Dear  A A 
> >> Fatio
> >> 
> >> used 
> >> ]
> >> the y circlon mechanism ''
> >> to explain  gravity >>
> >> 
> >> 2
> >> 
> >> did he used  'curved space '
> >> to explain gravity ?
> >> ==> TIA
> >> Y.Porat
> >> =========================
> > 
> > Why is it than when I do a search on "y circlon", all that comes up is your name?
> > 
> > Double-A
> > 
> > 
> 
> Because no one is interested in it except him. And he’s convinced he’s
> revolutionizing physics. A bridge engineer. 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
=====================
little nasty pig shit parasite ****anonymous !!

criminal against  mankind 
while you are a book publisher 
and to morrow 
you
will publish it
as yours or  of your friends ??!!!

and envy is eating you 
because
you are an incurable  parrot
that innovated   nothing in your f en life !!
=====
Y.Porat
=======================

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