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IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !!

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  IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:09 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:14 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 05:43 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 06:00 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:53 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! nobody@invalid.invalid - 2018-07-26 11:56 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:08 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:07 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:02 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:45 +0000
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:36 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:05 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:38 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 03:08 +0000
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 21:27 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:34 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 04:43 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:51 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 05:08 +0000
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:35 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:41 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:59 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 23:05 -0700
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:05 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 01:22 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:02 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:26 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:50 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 16:13 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:31 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:24 -0700
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:43 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:25 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:23 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:50 +0000
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 18:45 -0700
                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:50 -0700
                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:57 -0700
                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:39 -0700
                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 11:22 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:07 +0000
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 17:06 -0400
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 01:11 +0000
                                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 04:46 -0700
                                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:41 +0000
                                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 06:09 -0700
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:42 +0000
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 11:56 -0700
                                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-02 03:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 04:57 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:25 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:47 +0000
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:55 +0000
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:25 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 11:47 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:16 -0400
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:02 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 12:44 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:55 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:09 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 23:24 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 04:52 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 07:20 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0400
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-04 14:24 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 00:02 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 12:29 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 19:32 +0000
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:24 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:14 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-05 00:48 +0000
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 08:13 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 10:14 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 04:16 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 00:25 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 01:36 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-04 17:58 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 03:54 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 19:59 -0700

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#697158

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-05 17:14 -0700
Message-ID<9cc6e9bb-a06c-4d57-9826-631e7ccb79a5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697125
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 10:29:10 PM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:02:17 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:24:07 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 7:20:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> > > > Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> > > > He helped invent The Calculus.
> > > > He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
> > > > Michael thinks he’s a kook.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Nicolas Fatio de Duillier?  Seemed to be quite a sharp tack to me.
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > =====================
> > Dear  A A 
> > Fatio
> > 
> > used 
> > ]
> > the y circlon mechanism ''
> > to explain  gravity >>
> > 
> > 2
> > 
> > did he used  'curved space '
> > to explain gravity ?
> > ===
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ==========================
> 
> 
> Why is it than when I do a search on "y circlon", all that comes up is your name?
> 
> Double-A
===================
is it not  obvious ?!!
it means that it is net
my     original   innovates  ORRIGINAL   idea 
2
more Important

DO YOU UNDERASTAND THAT IDEA ?

and how it fits all my model
about 
the structure of Atom and nucleus ??
plus gravity !!
BY A **PUSH **THEORY !!!!
==
TIA
Y.Porat
============================

 ====================

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#697044

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-05 00:48 +0000
Message-ID<pk5hh1$1h0$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#697008
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Fatio  came up with Push gravity first- that we know of. He was a friend of
>Isaac Newton and Leibniz. Michael thinks he's a kook.
>He helped invent The Calculus.
>He correctly explained Zodiacal Light.
>Michael thinks he's a kook.

You lie. Why do you lie?

I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that 
turned out to be a failure.  We all make mistakes.

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#697097

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 08:13 -0700
Message-ID<6e912731-c05f-49c1-98f5-e6baf499f1f8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697044
Michael
“I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that 
turned out to be a failure”
You have repeatedly declared LeSage gravity proponents to be kooks.

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#697111

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-05 10:14 -0700
Message-ID<646f72eb-92f3-49da-9c21-ba3bb23ee811@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697097
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:13:56 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Michael
> “I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that 
> turned out to be a failure”
======
what  is smart  there 
and what is wrong ??
====
TIA
Y.Porat
================================

 
> You have repeatedly declared LeSage gravity proponents to be kooks.

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#697121

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
Message-ID<pk7ha0$1t5m$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697097
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael
> “I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that 
> turned out to be a failure”
> You have repeatedly declared LeSage gravity proponents to be kooks.
> 

Especially if they are proponents TODAY long after the idea was shown to
not work. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697198

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-06 04:16 +0000
Message-ID<pk8i26$ap$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#697097
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>"I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that
>turned out to be a failure"
>You have repeatedly declared LeSage gravity proponents to be kooks.

No, John. I consider proponents of refuted ideas who know (or should know)
the idea has been refuted to be kooks.

For example, consider a naive person who comes up with an oddball idea
such as "what if galaxies don't just rotate, they also precess?" Just a
nutty idea, but not a kook. Someone else reminds that person that not only
do spiral galaxies not rotate as a unit, but such precession would violate
several laws of physics without some sort of massive external torque. If
the naive person ignores or blows off such reminders and insists on the
precession idea, then that person has descended into kO0kdom.

Fatio never knew his idea would be refuted. I won't call someone a kook
for believing in something that would be refuted long after he died.
Unless, of course, he knew of reasons why his idea would fail but never
let on or tried to hide that. But I doubt that.

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#697203

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-08-06 00:25 -0700
Message-ID<1b8a3b7b-197f-4475-9c8e-59c9d51f0e35@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697198
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 7:16:09 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Michael
> >"I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that
> >turned out to be a failure"
> >You have repeatedly declared LeSage gravity proponents to be kooks.
> 
> No, John. I consider proponents of refuted ideas who know (or should know)
> the idea has been refuted to be kooks.
> 
> For example, consider a naive person who comes up with an oddball idea
> such as "what if galaxies don't just rotate, they also precess?" Just a
> nutty idea, but not a kook. Someone else reminds that person that not only
> do spiral galaxies not rotate as a unit, but such precession would violate
> several laws of physics without some sort of massive external torque. If
> the naive person ignores or blows off such reminders and insists on the
> precession idea, then that person has descended into kO0kdom.
> 
> Fatio never knew his idea would be refuted. I won't call someone a kook
> for believing in something that would be refuted long after he died.
> Unless, of course, he knew of reasons why his idea would fail but never
> let on or tried to hide that. But I doubt that.
===============================
did fatio
used the y circlon   mechanism 
as a bse for his 
model of the Atom and nucleus ?
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
2
did he used that' y circlon mechanism'  
as a base for his
all push forces theory ??
TIA
Y.Porat
========================

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#697204

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-08-06 01:36 -0700
Message-ID<efa173b8-57e3-4e2d-9528-a2d3954445ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697203
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 10:25:56 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 7:16:09 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > >Michael
> > >"I said he seemed to be rather smart but happened to have an idea that
> > >turned out to be a failure"
> > >You have repeatedly declared LeSage gravity proponents to be kooks.
> > 
> > No, John. I consider proponents of refuted ideas who know (or should know)
> > the idea has been refuted to be kooks.
> > 
> > For example, consider a naive person who comes up with an oddball idea
> > such as "what if galaxies don't just rotate, they also precess?" Just a
> > nutty idea, but not a kook. Someone else reminds that person that not only
> > do spiral galaxies not rotate as a unit, but such precession would violate
> > several laws of physics without some sort of massive external torque. If
> > the naive person ignores or blows off such reminders and insists on the
> > precession idea, then that person has descended into kO0kdom.
> > 
> > Fatio never knew his idea would be refuted. I won't call someone a kook
> > for believing in something that would be refuted long after he died.
> > Unless, of course, he knew of reasons why his idea would fail but never
> > let on or tried to hide that. But I doubt that.
> ===============================
> did fatio
> used the y circlon   mechanism 
> as a bse for his 
> model of the Atom and nucleus ?
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
> 2
> did he used that' y circlon mechanism'  
> as a base for his
> all push forces theory ??
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ========================

and something  ''a bit'  more :

did Fatio
claimed that 
=======================================================================
'MASS **!! IS THE ** CREATOR**  OF ALL**  FORCES- INCLUDING GRAVITY' ??!!
========================================================================
TIA
Y.Porat
========================

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#697046

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-08-04 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<5e89ffb4-0399-4188-b7f5-bf44eb0d9316@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696982
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:24:33 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:55:02 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> > On 8/3/2018 3:44 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:47:38 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> > >>> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> > >>>
> > >>> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> > >>> in your body
> > >>> it is push forces !
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
> > >>> upwards
> > >>> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
> > >>> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
> > >>> based on  push
> > >>> not on pull !!!
> > >>> -----------
> > >>> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> > >>> believe it or not
> > >>> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> > >>> '''at the end  of the say''
> > >>>   PUSH NOT PULL
> > >>> if you don't understand9
> > >>> -ask !!!
> > >>> ===========================================================
> > >>> TIA
> > >>> Y.Porat
> > >>> ========================
> > >>>
> > >>>   !!
> > >>
> > >> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> > > 
> > > Universe largest two energies are push and pull. Both are a work in both realms.Bert
> > > 
> > Bert has spoken folks. The universe is made of microbes and strings and 
> > the strings pull on everything! That is a given.
> ===================================
> (:-)
> 
> you  must be joking !!
> see again my op post 
> about how our blood and breathing are circulating 
> 
> ONLY  PUSH !!  nothing  pull !!~
> do you think that we pool air to our lungs ??
> 
> nothing like that
> if you examine it carefully you  find that
> we are entering air to our lungs 
> not by pul
> but by the push (push) of our atmosphere high
> above 
> air has weight !!
> and that is what is pushing it to our lungs !!!
> 2
> I  forgot to mention it 
> see Google
> 
> the y circlon mechanism !!
> =
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
> 
> **at its appendix !!
> how push is done :
> 
> by forwards backwards  movement** collision movement** 
> of **curved moving basic particles **
> that move 
> naturally** in  curved lines (that is 'how it was 'born'
> THAT PRODUCE PUSH !!!FORCE !!and 'eternal' 'pull '' forces as well 
>  
> no more f en ''curved space'' !!any more !!
> ie
> a new basic  unprecedented  assertion in physics !!
> ==
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ===================

Forces create new movement. They change inertia by its speed and direction.
There is No absolute rest for inertia. If inertia comes first POR then
what is pushing that? that changes by force?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#697071

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-05 03:54 -0700
Message-ID<b5fb242c-d9ad-4ccd-962f-da2597b748db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697046
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 3:58:23 AM UTC+3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:24:33 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:55:02 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> > > On 8/3/2018 3:44 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:47:38 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > >> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> > > >>> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> > > >>> in your body
> > > >>> it is push forces !
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm
> > > >>> upwards
> > > >>> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth
> > > >>> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism
> > > >>> based on  push
> > > >>> not on pull !!!
> > > >>> -----------
> > > >>> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> > > >>> believe it or not
> > > >>> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> > > >>> '''at the end  of the say''
> > > >>>   PUSH NOT PULL
> > > >>> if you don't understand9
> > > >>> -ask !!!
> > > >>> ===========================================================
> > > >>> TIA
> > > >>> Y.Porat
> > > >>> ========================
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   !!
> > > >>
> > > >> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
> > > > 
> > > > Universe largest two energies are push and pull. Both are a work in both realms.Bert
> > > > 
> > > Bert has spoken folks. The universe is made of microbes and strings and 
> > > the strings pull on everything! That is a given.
> > ===================================
> > (:-)
> > 
> > you  must be joking !!
> > see again my op post 
> > about how our blood and breathing are circulating 
> > 
> > ONLY  PUSH !!  nothing  pull !!~
> > do you think that we pool air to our lungs ??
> > 
> > nothing like that
> > if you examine it carefully you  find that
> > we are entering air to our lungs 
> > not by pul
> > but by the push (push) of our atmosphere high
> > above 
> > air has weight !!
> > and that is what is pushing it to our lungs !!!
> > 2
> > I  forgot to mention it 
> > see Google
> > 
> > the y circlon mechanism !!
> > =
> > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
> > 
> > **at its appendix !!
> > how push is done :
> > 
> > by forwards backwards  movement** collision movement** 
> > of **curved moving basic particles **
> > that move 
> > naturally** in  curved lines (that is 'how it was 'born'
> > THAT PRODUCE PUSH !!!FORCE !!and 'eternal' 'pull '' forces as well 
> >  
> > no more f en ''curved space'' !!any more !!
> > ie
> > a new basic  unprecedented  assertion in physics !!
> > ==
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ===================
> 
> Forces create new movement. They change inertia by its speed and direction.
> There is No absolute rest for inertia. If inertia comes first POR then
> what is pushing that? that changes by force?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
====================
see the ''y circlon  mechanism''
if you don't understand it
just ask !!
==
Y.Porat
==================


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#696972

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-03 19:59 -0700
Message-ID<95a3068b-47c5-42c8-827b-f69dea49b495@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696905
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 9:47:38 PM UTC+3, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:09:46 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> > it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> > 
> > take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> > in your body 
> > it is push forces !
> > 
> > 
> > the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm 
> > upwards 
> > it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth 
> > and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism 
> > based on  push
> > not on pull !!!
> > -----------
> > and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> > believe it or not 
> > even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> > '''at the end  of the say''
> >  PUSH NOT PULL 
> > if you don't understand9
> > -ask !!!
> > ===========================================================
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ========================
> > 
> >  !!
> 
> Pull For Gravity Push for cosmos horizon to inflate. Bert
========================
it is not pull idiot parrot 
'pull '' is only for a fool ….
===
Y.P
=======================

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