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| Started by | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-04-26 10:40 -0400 |
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America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-26 10:40 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 08:45 -0600
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-26 10:56 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-04-26 09:59 -0500
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 11:23 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-04-26 13:01 -0500
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 15:19 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-04-26 14:23 -0500
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-26 15:36 -0500
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 13:52 -0700
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-04-26 17:37 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-26 22:58 +0000
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 21:07 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-04-26 22:06 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-04-26 22:00 -0700
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-04-27 00:36 -0500
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-04-27 07:37 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 09:17 -0600
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 11:21 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-04-26 21:13 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-04-27 18:07 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 20:29 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-04-27 23:00 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-04-27 23:45 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-04-28 01:47 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-04-28 08:21 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:15 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-28 05:13 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-28 09:10 -0500
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:20 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-28 05:09 -0400
Our plant is getting greener. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-28 03:56 -0700
Re: Our plant is getting greener. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-04-28 08:37 -0400
Re: Our plant is getting greener. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-04-28 12:56 -0400
Re: Our plant is getting greener. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-04-28 13:24 -0400
Re: Our plant is getting greener. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-04-28 14:10 -0400
Re: Our plant is getting greener. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-04-28 14:34 -0400
Re: Our plant is getting greener. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-04-28 14:45 -0400
Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:17 -0400
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-26 10:54 -0500
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 12:19 -0400
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:11 -0600
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 11:17 -0700
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-04-26 11:54 -0700
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 15:20 -0400
Re: AmericaâÂÂs Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Tru mp (Again) Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-04-26 14:32 -0500
Re: America Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Tru mp (Again) Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 13:45 -0600
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-04-26 21:15 -0400
Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-26 14:45 -0700
— America’s Top Scientists Praise Adolf Hitler and Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 18:17 +1000
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-27 18:07 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc0848$qho$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #682549 |
"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote in message news:pbtv5v$1ru$1@dont-email.me... > > > "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences have >>>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of >>>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change: >>>> >>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>> >>> newyorker? LOL >> >> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and *make an actual >> counterargument*? Or just burble inanities for the rest of your days? > > Oh, you want a counter argument? > > No problem. > > How about several hundred million years of climate change that occurred > utterly independent of any involvement from man? > > So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to the > unsupported assumption that man is the cause? <crickets>
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-27 20:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <0gPEC.15645$RI2.7526@fx26.iad> |
| In reply to | #682549 |
On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: > > > "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences have >>>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of >>>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change: >>>> >>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>>> >>> >>> newyorker? LOL >> >> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and *make an actual >> counterargument*? Or just burble inanities for the rest of your days? > > Oh, you want a counter argument? > > No problem. > > How about several hundred million years of climate change that occurred > utterly independent of any involvement from man? > > So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to > the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? > > Um,because otherwise there'd be no way to justify a huge energy tax to push socialism on the world...OK?
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-27 23:00 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc0occ$b4k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #682703 |
"benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message news:0gPEC.15645$RI2.7526@fx26.iad... > On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >>> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences >>>>> have >>>>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of >>>>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>>> >>>> newyorker? LOL >>> >>> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and *make an actual >>> counterargument*? Or just burble inanities for the rest of your days? >> >> Oh, you want a counter argument? >> >> No problem. >> >> How about several hundred million years of climate change that occurred >> utterly independent of any involvement from man? >> >> So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to >> the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? >> >> > Um,because otherwise there'd be no way to justify a huge energy tax to > push socialism on the world...OK? I think that sounds just about right. Meanwhile on the topic of global warming: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-04-27 23:45 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc0qq0$1ru6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682708 |
On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: > "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message > news:0gPEC.15645$RI2.7526@fx26.iad... >> On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: >>> "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>>>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences >>>>>> have >>>>>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of >>>>>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>>>>> >>>>> newyorker? LOL >>>> >>>> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and *make an actual >>>> counterargument*? Or just burble inanities for the rest of your days? >>> >>> Oh, you want a counter argument? >>> >>> No problem. >>> >>> How about several hundred million years of climate change that occurred >>> utterly independent of any involvement from man? >>> >>> So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to >>> the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? >>> >> Um,because otherwise there'd be no way to justify a huge energy tax to >> push socialism on the world...OK? > > I think that sounds just about right. > > Meanwhile on the topic of global warming: > > http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ One would think that the actual data would reflect such an amazing event. I wonder why it doesn't. I find it hard to believe that Breitbart would be guilty of pushing made up crap. They wouldn't do that, would they? -- Dinsdale
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 01:47 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc120f$o6q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #682709 |
"Dinsdale" <yup@ayup.yup> wrote in message news:pc0qq0$1ru6$1@gioia.aioe.org... > On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: >> "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message >> news:0gPEC.15645$RI2.7526@fx26.iad... >>> On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: >>>> "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>>>>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of >>>>>>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>>>>> newyorker? LOL >>>>> >>>>> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and *make an actual >>>>> counterargument*? Or just burble inanities for the rest of your days? >>>> >>>> Oh, you want a counter argument? >>>> >>>> No problem. >>>> >>>> How about several hundred million years of climate change that occurred >>>> utterly independent of any involvement from man? >>>> >>>> So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to >>>> the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? >>>> >>> Um,because otherwise there'd be no way to justify a huge energy tax to >>> push socialism on the world...OK? >> >> I think that sounds just about right. >> >> Meanwhile on the topic of global warming: >> >> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ > > One would think that the actual data would reflect such an amazing event. > I wonder why it doesn't. I find it hard to believe that Breitbart would > be guilty of pushing made up crap. They wouldn't do that, would they? Show me that the data doesn't reflect what was reported.....
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 08:21 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc1ovs$17e9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682721 |
On 4/28/2018 1:47 AM, Scout wrote:> "Dinsdale" <yup@ayup.yup> wrote in message > news:pc0qq0$1ru6$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: >>> "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message >>> news:0gPEC.15645$RI2.7526@fx26.iad... >>>> On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in >>>>> message news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>>>>>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy >>>>>>>> of Sciences have signed a statement decrying the >>>>>>>> Administration’s “denigration of scientific >>>>>>>> expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate >>>>>>>> change: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> newyorker? LOL >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and >>>>>> *make an actual counterargument*? Or just burble inanities >>>>>> for the rest of your days? >>>>> >>>>> Oh, you want a counter argument? >>>>> >>>>> No problem. >>>>> >>>>> How about several hundred million years of climate change >>>>> that occurred utterly independent of any involvement from >>>>> man? >>>>> >>>>> So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we >>>>> should leap to the unsupported assumption that man is the >>>>> cause? >>>>> >>>> Um,because otherwise there'd be no way to justify a huge energy >>>> tax to push socialism on the world...OK? >>> >>> I think that sounds just about right. >>> >>> Meanwhile on the topic of global warming: >>> >>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ >>> >> One would think that the actual data would reflect such an amazing >> event. I wonder why it doesn't. I find it hard to believe that >> Breitbart would be guilty of pushing made up crap. They wouldn't do >> that, would they? > > Show me that the data doesn't reflect what was reported..... An ass toot and highly trained and very well paid data scientist with extensive training and great intelligent's like yourself would be well aware of the publicly accessible data available from archive's around the world and have the amazing open source software tools one would need to slice and dice that data and present it in a readily digestible form for making average Joeseph (or Joesephine) buy into your political agenda and vote against hissown (or hersown) best interests. So, get on with the show and prove that you're not a lazy and stupid socilist sucking off the gummint tit. -- Dinsdale
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 14:15 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <uT2FC.27028$wG5.3140@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #682721 |
On 4/28/2018 1:47 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Dinsdale" <yup@ayup.yup> wrote in message > news:pc0qq0$1ru6$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: >>> "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message >>> news:0gPEC.15645$RI2.7526@fx26.iad... >>>> On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: >>>>> "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:pbspam$1jln$5@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> On 4/26/2018 10:45 AM, Skeeter wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:40:52 -0400, kensi >>>>>>> <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of >>>>>>>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> newyorker? LOL >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you ever going to actually *address the point* and *make an >>>>>> actual >>>>>> counterargument*? Or just burble inanities for the rest of your days? >>>>> >>>>> Oh, you want a counter argument? >>>>> >>>>> No problem. >>>>> >>>>> How about several hundred million years of climate change that >>>>> occurred >>>>> utterly independent of any involvement from man? >>>>> >>>>> So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to >>>>> the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? >>>>> >>>> Um,because otherwise there'd be no way to justify a huge energy tax to >>>> push socialism on the world...OK? >>> >>> I think that sounds just about right. >>> >>> Meanwhile on the topic of global warming: >>> >>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ >>> >> >> One would think that the actual data would reflect such an amazing >> event. I wonder why it doesn't. I find it hard to believe that >> Breitbart would be guilty of pushing made up crap. They wouldn't do >> that, would they? > > Show me that the data doesn't reflect what was reported..... In "Dinsdale's" world they tell you what to believe and you must believe and repeat it. Period. It's a new era where no proof or data is needed.
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 05:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc1e02$mbr$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682708 |
On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: > http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ Meanwhile, in the actual, *reputable* press (as distinct from the neoNazi "press"): http://earthsky.org/earth/2017-2nd-3rd-warmest-year-nasa-noaa https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/01/18/2017-was-the-second-hottest-year-on-record-nasa-says-and-it-wasnt-even-an-el-nino-year.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2016-was-the-hottest-year-on-record/ https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/18/2016-hottest-year-ever-recorded-and-scientists-say-human-activity-to-blame The hottest two years in recorded history are a "two-year cooling event", according to the kookservative echo-chamber "press". Black is white. Peace is war. Ignorance is knowledge. Big Brother loves you. Trade wars and rumors of war are making America great again. -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 09:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc1vcd$1hut$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682728 |
On 4/28/2018 4:13 AM, kensi wrote: > On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: >> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ > > > Meanwhile, in the actual, *reputable* press (as distinct from the > neoNazi "press"): > > http://earthsky.org/earth/2017-2nd-3rd-warmest-year-nasa-noaa > > https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/01/18/2017-was-the-second-hottest-year-on-record-nasa-says-and-it-wasnt-even-an-el-nino-year.html > > > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2016-was-the-hottest-year-on-record/ > > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/18/2016-hottest-year-ever-recorded-and-scientists-say-human-activity-to-blame > > > The hottest two years in recorded history are a "two-year cooling > event", according to the kookservative echo-chamber "press". Black is > white. Peace is war. Ignorance is knowledge. Big Brother loves you. > Trade wars and rumors of war are making America great again. > Kensi pupa, there was a snowstorm in NYC 12 to 18 inches snow JUST LAST MONTH MARCH 21, 2018 Glowball Cooling is HERE, here to stay.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 14:20 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pX2FC.21040$6C5.90@fx07.iad> |
| In reply to | #682728 |
On 4/28/2018 5:13 AM, kensi wrote: > On 4/27/2018 11:00 PM, Scout wrote: >> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ > > > Meanwhile, in the actual, *reputable* press (as distinct from the > neoNazi "press"): Translation: "reputable" = liberal Commie press propaganda. "NeoNazi" = actual scientific data rather than propaganda. SciAm = "reputable"!!!!! Bwahahahahaha! How many decades ago was that "Kansi"? > http://earthsky.org/earth/2017-2nd-3rd-warmest-year-nasa-noaa > > https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/01/18/2017-was-the-second-hottest-year-on-record-nasa-says-and-it-wasnt-even-an-el-nino-year.html > > > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2016-was-the-hottest-year-on-record/ > > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/18/2016-hottest-year-ever-recorded-and-scientists-say-human-activity-to-blame > > > The hottest two years in recorded history are a "two-year cooling > event", according to the kookservative echo-chamber "press". Black is > white. Peace is war. Ignorance is knowledge. Big Brother loves you. > Trade wars and rumors of war are making America great again. Excellent description of how your lib "logic" works, "KAnsi"
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 05:09 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <pc1dp4$l4t$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682549 |
On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: > How about several hundred million years of climate change that occurred > utterly independent of any involvement from man? > > So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to > the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? Because a sudden, superfast climate warming of a sort unseen since the PETM is occurring, the first time it occurred there was a huge CO2 spike due to volcanism in the newly-forming north Atlantic setting off methane hydrate beds, and this second time there is a huge CO2 spike due to ... us, burning fossil fuels. Oh, and a whole bunch of math and physics related to radiative forcing and stuff, showing that CO2 can be expected to cause the climate to heat up. -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 03:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--3.56am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #682727 |
Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. Our plant is getting greener.
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 08:37 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <pc1pu5$18po$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682733 |
On 4/28/2018 6:56 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. > Our plant is getting greener. True. There's moss and lichens growing on the old metal stamping plant down in the industrial park. The city's talking about hitting it with a pressure washer and repaving the parking lot now that they own it from having the tax auction. If they move the machinery out, it might make a good indoor skateboard park or a senior center or a gym or something. Maybe a craft beer brewery. They're getting the soil tested to see if maybe the lawn area around the flag pole could become a community garden for the po' folk so they don't have to pay somebody to mow it. -- Grizzly H.
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 12:56 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <lm99edlccb0ls87hjot220al5dvq4r4ls2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #682740 |
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:37:16 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >On 4/28/2018 6:56 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. >> Our plant is getting greener. > >True. There's moss and lichens growing on the old metal stamping plant >down in the industrial park. The city's talking about hitting it with a >pressure washer and repaving the parking lot now that they own it from >having the tax auction. If they move the machinery out, it might make a >good indoor skateboard park or a senior center or a gym or something. ... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that doesn't. >Maybe a craft beer brewery. ... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that contributes to drunken idleness. No one is talking about using it for a purpose that contributes to the GDP?!! Have they given up and resigned themselves to their community being useless in the world?
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 13:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <pc2ap3$56v$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682758 |
On 4/28/2018 12:56 PM, Wally W. wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:37:16 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: > >> On 4/28/2018 6:56 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. >>> Our plant is getting greener. >> >> True. There's moss and lichens growing on the old metal stamping plant >> down in the industrial park. The city's talking about hitting it with a >> pressure washer and repaving the parking lot now that they own it from >> having the tax auction. If they move the machinery out, it might make a >> good indoor skateboard park or a senior center or a gym or something. > > .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that > doesn't. > >> Maybe a craft beer brewery. > > .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that > contributes to drunken idleness. Can't play golf all day every day. Sometimes you need horse doovers and booze while yer waiting for the Ferrari to get buffed out. > No one is talking about using it for a purpose that contributes to the > GDP?!! > > Have they given up and resigned themselves to their community being > useless in the world? We already have golf courses with billionaire houses around them. And the realtors don't want any blue collar riff-raff moving in - can't make big commissions selling to people who don't make something north of $250k and realtors run the Chamber of Commerce and the city gummint. And all the manufacturing is moving to Asia because that's where all the steel and aluminum and paint and glue is being made and labor is cheap. So when a company closes US operations and abandons the building, what do you do with it? Hmmmm? There's a dozen other empty buildings in the industrial park. Best thing they come up with so far is move the dentists and the hairdressers and laundromats there where parking is ample so the downtown space can become condos and dive bars, wine stores and bike lanes. Times are changing. -- Grizzly H.
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 14:10 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <g2e9ed9dea2cb49vnuvc5tnhjh4juf2uue@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #682759 |
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:24:43 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >On 4/28/2018 12:56 PM, Wally W. wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:37:16 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >> >>> On 4/28/2018 6:56 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>> Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. >>>> Our plant is getting greener. >>> >>> True. There's moss and lichens growing on the old metal stamping plant >>> down in the industrial park. The city's talking about hitting it with a >>> pressure washer and repaving the parking lot now that they own it from >>> having the tax auction. If they move the machinery out, it might make a >>> good indoor skateboard park or a senior center or a gym or something. >> >> .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that >> doesn't. >> >>> Maybe a craft beer brewery. >> >> .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that >> contributes to drunken idleness. > >Can't play golf all day every day. Sometimes you need horse doovers and >booze while yer waiting for the Ferrari to get buffed out. > >> No one is talking about using it for a purpose that contributes to the >> GDP?!! >> >> Have they given up and resigned themselves to their community being >> useless in the world? > >We already have golf courses with billionaire houses around them. And >the realtors don't want any blue collar riff-raff moving in - can't make >big commissions selling to people who don't make something north of >$250k and realtors run the Chamber of Commerce and the city gummint. >And all the manufacturing is moving to Asia because that's where all the >steel and aluminum and paint and glue is being made and labor is cheap. >So when a company closes US operations You accept that as a good thing?!! >and abandons the building, what >do you do with it? Hmmmm? There's a dozen other empty buildings in the >industrial park. Best thing they come up with so far is move the >dentists and the hairdressers and laundromats there where parking is >ample so the downtown space can become condos and dive bars, wine stores >and bike lanes. Times are changing. ... not for the better. Maybe **your** job should be moved to Asia. Would you be okay with that?
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 14:34 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <pc2er3$bv7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682766 |
On 4/28/2018 2:10 PM, Wally W. wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:24:43 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >> On 4/28/2018 12:56 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:37:16 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >>>> On 4/28/2018 6:56 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>>> Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. >>>>> Our plant is getting greener. >>>> >>>> True. There's moss and lichens growing on the old metal stamping plant >>>> down in the industrial park. The city's talking about hitting it with a >>>> pressure washer and repaving the parking lot now that they own it from >>>> having the tax auction. If they move the machinery out, it might make a >>>> good indoor skateboard park or a senior center or a gym or something. >>> >>> .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that >>> doesn't. >>> >>>> Maybe a craft beer brewery. >>> >>> .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that >>> contributes to drunken idleness. >> >> Can't play golf all day every day. Sometimes you need horse doovers and >> booze while yer waiting for the Ferrari to get buffed out. >> >>> No one is talking about using it for a purpose that contributes to the >>> GDP?!! >>> >>> Have they given up and resigned themselves to their community being >>> useless in the world? >> >> We already have golf courses with billionaire houses around them. And >> the realtors don't want any blue collar riff-raff moving in - can't make >> big commissions selling to people who don't make something north of >> $250k and realtors run the Chamber of Commerce and the city gummint. >> And all the manufacturing is moving to Asia because that's where all the >> steel and aluminum and paint and glue is being made and labor is cheap. >> So when a company closes US operations > > You accept that as a good thing?!! > >> and abandons the building, what >> do you do with it? Hmmmm? There's a dozen other empty buildings in the >> industrial park. Best thing they come up with so far is move the >> dentists and the hairdressers and laundromats there where parking is >> ample so the downtown space can become condos and dive bars, wine stores >> and bike lanes. Times are changing. > > .... not for the better. > > Maybe **your** job should be moved to Asia. Would you be okay with > that? My job was moved to the EU. It's easy to lay off Americans. It's difficult to lay off Europeans. So, a company does what ever it needs to do to improve stock market performance (that's all that matters). The money saved by reducing US operations allowed the company to buy back a bunch of stock which made investors very happy. This, of course, lowered US stock prices which made it possible for investors to purchase more stock to position themselves for a big buyback in the next cycle. This capital makes it possible for the company to buy out some competitors which allows them to control the market and raise prices which is seen as good performance and strong growth positioning the company for a buy out. Top management will make a killing and be in a position to buy/found more companies with manufacturing operations in low labor cost countries. I'll just get a new job with a US owned company with foreign subsidiaries that will move US operations off shore for the tax and operating cost benefits. It's all the rage these days. And very good for Wall Street and the GDP. -- Grizzly H.
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 14:45 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Our plant is getting greener. |
| Message-ID | <7qf9edhs7fspntk3a35hrfi3upn73o5ero@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #682775 |
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:34:03 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >On 4/28/2018 2:10 PM, Wally W. wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:24:43 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >>> On 4/28/2018 12:56 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:37:16 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>> On 4/28/2018 6:56 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>>>> Everything changes, including the climate, and it's not all bad. >>>>>> Our plant is getting greener. >>>>> >>>>> True. There's moss and lichens growing on the old metal stamping plant >>>>> down in the industrial park. The city's talking about hitting it with a >>>>> pressure washer and repaving the parking lot now that they own it from >>>>> having the tax auction. If they move the machinery out, it might make a >>>>> good indoor skateboard park or a senior center or a gym or something. >>>> >>>> .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that >>>> doesn't. >>>> >>>>> Maybe a craft beer brewery. >>>> >>>> .... turning a place that contributed to the GDP into a place that >>>> contributes to drunken idleness. >>> >>> Can't play golf all day every day. Sometimes you need horse doovers and >>> booze while yer waiting for the Ferrari to get buffed out. >>> >>>> No one is talking about using it for a purpose that contributes to the >>>> GDP?!! >>>> >>>> Have they given up and resigned themselves to their community being >>>> useless in the world? >>> >>> We already have golf courses with billionaire houses around them. And >>> the realtors don't want any blue collar riff-raff moving in - can't make >>> big commissions selling to people who don't make something north of >>> $250k and realtors run the Chamber of Commerce and the city gummint. >>> And all the manufacturing is moving to Asia because that's where all the >>> steel and aluminum and paint and glue is being made and labor is cheap. >>> So when a company closes US operations >> >> You accept that as a good thing?!! >> >>> and abandons the building, what >>> do you do with it? Hmmmm? There's a dozen other empty buildings in the >>> industrial park. Best thing they come up with so far is move the >>> dentists and the hairdressers and laundromats there where parking is >>> ample so the downtown space can become condos and dive bars, wine stores >>> and bike lanes. Times are changing. >> >> .... not for the better. >> >> Maybe **your** job should be moved to Asia. Would you be okay with >> that? > >My job was moved to the EU. ... and your reaction was ...? >It's easy to lay off Americans. It's >difficult to lay off Europeans. So, a company does what ever it needs >to do to improve stock market performance (that's all that matters). Really?!! You're okay with buying essential parts for the military from China? We wouldn't be SOL in a conflict with them if they stopped shipping parts needed for our military machinery, would we? >The money saved by reducing US operations allowed the company to buy >back a bunch of stock which made investors very happy. This, of course, >lowered US stock prices which made it possible for investors to purchase >more stock to position themselves for a big buyback in the next cycle. >This capital makes it possible for the company to buy out some >competitors which allows them to control the market and raise prices >which is seen as good performance and strong growth positioning the >company for a buy out. Top management will make a killing and be in a >position to buy/found more companies with manufacturing operations in >low labor cost countries. What is wrong with the graph here: http://thesoundingline.com/the-short-math-of-us-trade/ Since 1974, the US has run a cumulative trade deficit exceeding $11.64 trillion. >I'll just get a new job Maybe *this* time. >with a US owned company with foreign >subsidiaries that will move US operations off shore for the tax and >operating cost benefits. It's all the rage these days. And very good >for Wall Street and the GDP. What flavor is your Kool-Aid?
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-28 14:17 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump |
| Message-ID | <uU2FC.27037$wG5.5921@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #682727 |
On 4/28/2018 5:09 AM, kensi wrote: > On 4/26/2018 9:13 PM, Scout wrote: >> How about several hundred million years of climate change that >> occurred utterly independent of any involvement from man? >> >> So tell us again why at THIS specific moment of time we should leap to >> the unsupported assumption that man is the cause? > > Because a sudden, superfast climate warming of a sort unseen since the > PETM is occurring, the first time it occurred there was a huge CO2 spike > due to volcanism in the newly-forming north Atlantic setting off methane > hydrate beds, and this second time there is a huge CO2 spike due to ... > us, burning fossil fuels. > > Oh, and a whole bunch of math and physics related to radiative forcing > and stuff, showing that CO2 can be expected to cause the climate to heat > up. > To heat up and set two year cooling record for the "hiatus", right? That makes Lib sense.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-26 10:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pbssnp$1qn4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #682419 |
On 4/26/2018 9:40 AM, kensi wrote:
> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences have
> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of
> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change:
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again
>
>
Trump is right,
the US was getting screwed by the Paris Accord, USA taxpayers would have
to pay BILLIONS of dollars to other countries.
It is not about globall worming it is about removing MONEY from USA
Trump is RIGHT.
Obama failed to submit it to Congress, intentionally.
The Paris climate agreement was deeply flawed from its start. It was
legally and constitutionally suspect, based on politics rather than
science, and contained unrealistic goals. It promised not only a
dramatic expansion of the administrative state and a huge increase in
the regulatory burden on American businesses, it threatened to put the
brakes on U.S. economic output at a time when most economists think the
U.S. will struggle to achieve even a meager two percent growth.
It’s likely that it was already acting as a drag on the U.S. economy.
After President Barack Obama unofficially committed the U.S. to the
Paris agreement, businesses began preparing for its impact. Knowing that
it would diminish U.S. economic output, businesses invested less and
directed more investment toward less-productive technology to meet the
climate deal’s mandates. Banks and financiers withdrew capital from
sectors expected to suffer under the climate deal and pushed it toward
those expected to benefit. A classic example of regulation-driven
malinvestment.
Goodbye to ‘American Last.’ The Paris agreement was basically an
attempt to halt climate change on the honor system. Its only legal
requirements were for signatories to announce goals and report progress,
with no international enforcement mechanism. As a result, it was likely
that the United States and wealthy European nations would have adopted
and implemented severe climate change rules while many of the world’s
governments would avoid doing anything that would slow their own
economies. The agreement basically made the U.S. economy and Europe’s
strongest economies sacrificial lambs to the cause of climate change.
Industrial Carnage. The regulations necessary to implement the Paris
agreement would have cost the U.S. industrial sector 1.1 million jobs,
according to a study commissioned by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. These
job losses would center in cement, iron and steel, and petroleum
refining. Industrial output would decline sharply.
Hollowing Out Michigan, Missouri, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. The
industrial carnage would have been concentrated on four states,
according to the Chamber of Commerce study. Michigan’s GDP would shrink
by 0.8 percent and employment would contract by 74,000 jobs. Missouri’s
GDP would shrink by 1 percent. Ohio’s GDP would contract 1.2 percent.
Pennsylvania’s GDP would decline by 1.8 percent and the state would lose
140,000 jobs.
Smashing Small Businesses, Helping Big Business. Big businesses in
America strongly backed the Paris climate deal. In fact, the backers of
the climate deal reads like a “who’s who” of big American businesses:
Apple, General Electric, Intel, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Morgan
Stanley, General Mills, Walmart, DuPont, Unilever, and Johnson &
Johnson. These business giants can more easily cope with costly
regulations than their smaller competitors and many would, in fact, find
business opportunities from the changes required. But smaller businesses
and traditional start-ups would likely be hurt by the increased costs of
compliance and rising energy costs.
Making America Poorer Again. A Heritage Foundation study found that
the Paris agreement would have increased the electricity costs of an
American family of four by between 13 percent and 20 percent annually.
It forecast a loss of income of $20,000 by 2035. In other words,
American families would be paying more while making less.
Much Poorer. The overall effect of the agreement would have been to
reduce U.S. GDP by over $2.5 trillion and eliminate 400,000 jobs by
2035, according to Heritage’s study. This would exacerbate problems with
government funding and deficits, make Social Security solvency more
challenging, and increase reliance on government’s spending to support
households.
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