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Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership

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First post2015-11-07 08:48 -0600
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  Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 08:48 -0600
    Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org> - 2015-11-07 14:51 +0000
    Climate trolling militants attacking sci.physics with driverless cars 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-11-07 14:55 +0000
    Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-07 09:26 -0600
    Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-07 10:59 -0800
      Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 14:29 -0500
        Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-08 14:18 -0800
        Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-09 12:59 -0600
          Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 19:56 +0000
            Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-09 16:24 -0600
              Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 22:55 +0000
              Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-09 15:09 -0800
                Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-09 20:29 -0600
    Re: Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-07 18:55 +0000

#530880 — Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-07 08:48 -0600
SubjectDriverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
Message-ID<gtidndHpWbGrkqPLnZ2dnUU7-UOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html


> The transition to fully driverless cars is still several years away,
> but vehicle automation has already started to change the way we are
> thinking about transportation, and it is set to disrupt business
> models throughout the automotive industry.
>
> Driverless cars are also likely to create new business opportunities
> and have a broad reach, touching companies and industries beyond the
> automotive industry and giving rise to a wide range of products and
> services.
>
> New business models
>
> We currently have Uber developing a driverless vehicle, and Google
> advancing its driverless car and investigating a ridesharing model.
>
> Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly gearing up to challenge Telsa in
> electric cars and Silicon Valley is extending its reach into the auto
> industry.
>
> These developments signal the creation of an entirely new shared
> economy businesses that will tap into a new market that could see
> smart mobility seamlessly integrated in our lives.


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#530883

FromEdgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org>
Date2015-11-07 14:51 +0000
Message-ID<n1l36f$7mb$4@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#530880
W dniu Sat, 07 Nov 2015 08:48:21 -0600 użytkownik Sam Wormley napisał:

> Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html

Unequivocally. The driver can just wait at home.

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#530885 — Climate trolling militants attacking sci.physics with driverless cars

From7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
Date2015-11-07 14:55 +0000
SubjectClimate trolling militants attacking sci.physics with driverless cars
Message-ID<oho%x.55091$6i2.2420@fx35.am4>
In reply to#530880
Sam Wormley wrote:

> Driverless

In other news USA based climate trolling militants continue
their attack on sci.physics with driverless cars no less.



However USA climate trolls like you Sam are afraid of a confrontation
in case you lose the argument and get tossed all over.



Glow Ball Wumming Militants attack France and a book's author
-------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11931645/Frances-top-weatherman-sparks-storm-over-book-questioning-climate-change.html

Glow ball wumming militants are their militant activities are
spreading outside of USA and infecting countries like Italy and the
Vatican. The Pope no longer believes in religion and has taken to Climate Trolling
all thanks to State Actors interfering in the Vatican.

NSA trolls from US is also now active in Japan intercepting
communications of anyone opposing Glow Bull Wamming.

In the latest twist of US exporting Glow Ball Wamming Militancy,
a French Author has been sacked from his day job after writing
a book ridiculing Glow Bull Wumming. The French authorities were
powerless to stop it.

So what the Glow Bull Wumming Militants from USA now demand is
that you don't criticise them or ridicule them or they will find
you and get you sacked from your day job.
This includes using resources such as State Actors and NSA trolls.



All Gore is an illiterate US Climate Trolling Fsckwit
-----------------------------------------------------

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/10/al-gore-optimist-000295

"
The heat trapped in the atmosphere by greenhouse gases, he explains,
is the equivalent of exploding 400,000 atomic bombs every day.
“The denialists challenge everything I say, but they’ve never
challenged that one—and believe me, they would if they could,” he added.
"

Wheeelll fsckwitted All Gore, all dat hueeat travel in to da space fckwit!

I n t o  da space don't you know??

The globe cools average 1 degree PER hour during the night,
and warms 1 degree per hour when the Sun comes back up.
The temperature drop rate is 2 or 3 degrees per hour in desert
because there is no water vapour there to protect against
radiation loss.

Suck on that bit of physics All Gore dick h*ead.

Da 400,000 atomic boooms don't cut no mustard because
da gases are transparent. Their heat capacity is minimal.
As gases are transparent, all heat from your 400,000 atomic poofs 
is lost into space in hours.

So All Gore, stop lying to your flock.
You know nothing about Climate science, science in general,
and even less when it comes to conning the public.



NOAA climate trolls tossing out data unfavorable to them
--------------------------------------------------------

It seems NOAA climate trolls are tossing out data that
is selectively and precisely picks apart glow bull wumming trolling.

So what data would you throw out that dismissed glow bull
wumming that NOAA collects at least twice a day, every day????

This is the temperature from weather balloons!!!

Almost everywhere there are balloons being lauched that take
temperature at various altitudes which precisely measures
temperature near the surface and further up where the heat island
effects infected air at ground level is mixed with progressively
higher altitudes and get dissipated. So the average temperatures
like one kilometer up and so on above heat islands would give
you the best measurement of glow bull wumming.

Of course, that data is conveniently ditched by NOAA.

WoW!!!!

There is no glow bull wumming and they known it.


The same applies to CO2.
Don't measure it at ground level where the air hasn't had
a chance to mix, and as CO2 is more dense than air, it will
concentrate in valleys and anywhere there is a farm due to
plants respirating in the night.

So You need to measure it 1km up and average it.
And then you would know the truth.

Of course, that data is conveniently ditched by NOAA.

WoW!!

Another criminal enterprise in the making.

NOAA needs to be disbanded.
At the very least it needs fruit cake science and
policy makers need to be shown the door and replaced with good
scientists being held back due to the unholy
political motivations of its leadership.



Glow bull wumming alarmism is a criminal enterprise
---------------------------------------------------

Glow bull wumming is a criminal enterprise designed soley
around companies and corporations with vested interests
firmly entrenched in criminality and criminal behavior
to promote fake issues to grab money.

Their underlying pseudo science is now baseless.

The effect of 0.04% trace gas CO2 is exactly less than 0.04% on glow bull wumming

Those that thought they found some relation had all retracted it after finding out
the relation is logarithmic againt their hallucinations.

NO SCIENTIST EXISTS TODAY THAT LINKS CO2 TO GLOW BULL WUMMING.

Seriously in all seriousness glu bull wummed trolls are seriously
constipated when it comes to explaining the insignificance of
trace gas 0.04% CO2.

97% of scientists agree there is no climate change, just climate fluctuations
because the climate and weather fluctuates all the time.
But importantly more than 50% agree these temperature drifts are not human induced.

All scientists 100% agree there is no historical correlation between Earth's temperature
and 0.04% trace gas CO2.

So why don't you accept the majority verdict of real scientists?

Here they are in glorious form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAW7EgVHrDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrkqLaYjnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOjyMir6Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiPIvH49X-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQpyAY3J55g

Glow bull wummies using 4 thermometers in the antartic and claims it proves 
fluctuation of +/-0.1 degree noise as evidence of glu bull wumming.
(For reference the earth warms 1 degree per hour during the day
and cools 1 degree per hour during the night and measurement is riddled
with noise.)

Glue bull wummies put more and more thermometers in industrialized North Amerikkka to 
boost glu bull wumming average ratings. Thats like putting more and more thermometers
near a fire to boost the average and make the fake claim "its getting hotter" everywhere!!
Many other countries also on the same unstoppable fiddling train wreck.

Glu bull wummies haven't taken average of land temperature (which is prone to
steam rising from the ground) and 1km up where the air has mixed, to get
average temperature. As more cities and roads are built, all they are measuring
is surface temperature of built up areas and heat islands.
Many other countries also on the same unstoppable data fiddling train wreck.

Glu bull wummies haven't taken average of trace gas 0.04% CO2 at ground level
(which is prone to plant respiration from new farms, build up in valleys because
it is heavier than air, and to forests which respire lots of CO2 for the entire
night) and 1km up where the air has mixed, to get a true estimate of the CO2 level away
from built up areas and CO2 natural concentrating effects.
Many other countries also on the same unstoppable data fiddling train wreck.

Any politician engaged in talking up glu bull wumming don't know the numbers
are is firmly engaged in fraud.


The effect of 0.04% trace gas CO2 is exactly less than 0.04% on glow bull wumming
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

All reports by ALL scientists AGREE the effect of 0.04% CO2 trace gas is 
exactly less than 0.04% of glow bull wumming.

Because the air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen and all the rest 1% which 
includes trace gas CO2 which comprise 0.04% of all the gases.

All reports by ALL scientists AGREE the effect of 0.04% CO2 trace gas is 
exactly less than 0.04% after including all known sources of "radiative forcing" by 
all gases because ALL atmospheric gases are transparent.

All scientists agree there is no historical correlation between Earth's temperature
and 0.04% trace gas CO2.

--

The IPCC is not a scientific organisation but a political
con group. Its made up of a bunch of pseudo scientists with a lot of huffed
and puffed opinions that they dare not publish
under peer review and who have never published
an IPCC peer reviewed paper between them.
All the literature is worth the toilet paper it is written in.

Any libraries or organisations paying for IPCC reports are
paying good money for toilet paper and should be made accountable.

Any governments using IPCC services or buying into 
state of California officials employed as glow ball wamming trolls
handing out advise for money are firmly engaged in political fraud.

Glow ball wamming Key
---------------------

"Climate change" is a political statement - not a scientific statement.
Climate hasn't changed in 10,000 years.

"Global warming" is a political statement - not a scientific statement.

"Denier" is a political hate statement - not a scientific statement.

"IPCC" is an institution propagating political fraud.

"State of California" is a US institution propagating political climate 
fraud.

"NOAA" is a political fraud entity without records of how policy was made.
The greenhouse gas diagrams produced by NOAA are depicting fake and
a fraud commited against the public.

"NSA" is a state actor furthering global wamming politics through
      specfic documented interception of communications with the specific
      aim of defeating anyone who opposes the hallucigenated output
      of the glow ball wamming trolling movement. So says wikileaks.

"radiative forcing" is a politican term used by illiterates - not a 
scientific term. The amount is so miniscule, for trace gas 0.04%, the effect on glow
bull wamming is exactly less than 0.04% and not worth the mention.

"greenhouse gas" is a poltical statement - not a scientific statement

"greenhouse gas emissions" is a poltical statement - not a scientific 
statement.

There are no greenhouse gases on planet Earth worth talking about.

Politicians using terms such as greenhouse gas and greenhouse gas
emissions are engaged in fraud. 


1. Glow ball wammies including the Pope who has never published a peer
   reviewed papwer NEVER KNEW which is the biggest greenhouse gas
   on planet Earth. The 0.04% of trace gas CO2 is adds nothing of importance 
   to glow ball wamming. It contributes exactly less than 0.04% of
   the earth's temperature.
   
   Because almost all the air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen
   and all the rest 1%.
   
   The heat is actually carried by water vapour which is not
   labelled as a gas because it doesn't stick around in the
   atmosphere in the same way as atmospheric gases.
   Look out into the sky and see all those clouds?
   That is condensing steam.
   Imagine how many millions of kettles need to be boiled
   to put all that steam into the air. That energy is provided
   by the sun heating up sea water. Two thirds of the planet
   is sea water receiving more than 1kW of energy per square
   meter during daylight to vaporize the water.
   Same with land which can put up water vapour if the land
   is not seriously dry.
   
   EVERYONE caught up in glow ball wamming camp don't know the facts.
   Stop any greenpeace activist or a glow ball wammied
   politician, and NOT ONE person will know the above numbers
   because they are gold fish easily preyed on with carefully
   crafted dumbo words by greedy corporatons that stand to
   benefit ranting their mumbo jumbo they have taught themselves to say.
   

2. The 10 beeellliooonnn tons of CO2 emitted per year 
   can grow at best 75 x 75 miles square of forest.
   Take account what is below the ground as well,
   then may only 50 x 50 miles square of forest.
   
   So the last 100 years of CO2 emissions is not enough
   to grow 750 x 750 miles square forest.
   
   These numbers are staggeringly small.
   
   The founder of greenpeace says plant more trees and
   use more trees.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrkqLaYjnc - Dr Patrick Moore

   His message however has been hijacked by trolls inside
   greenpeace who portray man as some kind of enemy of mother
   nature instead of following the ideals of green living
   which is to live sustainably in harmony with nature.
   

3. The energy trolls are working closely with glow ball wammies
   to hike energy prices.
   
   The robber barrons of yesterday have latched onto to fuel as
   the new vehicle of robbing the poor
   because it is essential for living and now they have power
   to meter and dish it out in smaller portions and charge highest
   possible rates, because no one can refuse hiked energy prices.
   
   This makes energy trolls the no.1 public enemy of global
   peace.
   
4. Energy trolls want to hike up solar prices in USA and
   are trying to spread their disease to EU and rest of the
   world through bribery and state actors.
   
   Energy trolls and enery trolling politician
   in USA have pushed through anti-green laws
   to tax the poor that fit solar panels.

   You now owe power companies money if you fit solar panels to roof tops.
   Thats like owing ham burger companies $10 a month for the priviledge
   of being able to buy a hamburger in your street because they
   got set up costs even if you make your own hamburgers.

   You also owe power companies for fossil fuel carbon tax.

   So you owe money to these crocporations
   no matter which way you leap, and no matter what right
   things you try to do.

   The trolling polticians are stupid enough to fall for it
   and tax the poor for using coal power and
   tax them again for NOT using coal power with carbon tax. DOH!!!!
   America is stupid. American politician is stupid.
   And there is nothing Americans do to repair it while
   those politicians and energy trolls are in charge.

   It doesn't end there.
   For years the energy trolling crocporations in USA have
   campaigned to stop solar fencing erected. Solar panels
   are now cheaper than the man power needed to put them up.
   So they also hike solar panel prices by trolling politician
   to impose duties and tarrif hikes.
   The US and EU polticians are stupid enough to fall for it
   again and imposed duties to tax the poor even further and
   put up greater barriers illegally 50% higher
   to keep them from their solar panels while market prices
   are below $28 per sq meter.  DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!
   These stupid politicians drunk on tax payer money
   need to be criminalised for taking energy trolling crocporation
   lobby money and need to be replaced.

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#530900

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-07 09:26 -0600
Message-ID<n1l57g$egp$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#530880
On 11/7/2015 8:48 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html
>

>> The transition to fully driverless cars is still several years away,
>> but vehicle automation has already started to change the way we are
>> thinking about transportation, and it is set to disrupt business
>> models throughout the automotive industry.
>>
>> Driverless cars are also likely to create new business opportunities
>> and have a broad reach, touching companies and industries beyond the
>> automotive industry and giving rise to a wide range of products and
>> services.

>> New business models
>>
>> We currently have Uber developing a driverless vehicle, and Google
>> advancing its driverless car and investigating a ridesharing model.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly gearing up to challenge Telsa in
>> electric cars and Silicon Valley is extending its reach into the auto
>> industry.

>> These developments signal the creation of an entirely new shared
>> economy businesses that will tap into a new market that could see
>> smart mobility seamlessly integrated in our lives.
>
>


more bullshit,

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#530961

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-11-07 10:59 -0800
Message-ID<7a8f1e10-74a6-48e5-b506-7435ff8d46c2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#530880
On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 6:48:26 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html
> 
> 
> > The transition to fully driverless cars is still several years away,
> > but vehicle automation has already started to change the way we are
> > thinking about transportation, and it is set to disrupt business
> > models throughout the automotive industry.
> >
> > Driverless cars are also likely to create new business opportunities
> > and have a broad reach, touching companies and industries beyond the
> > automotive industry and giving rise to a wide range of products and
> > services.
> >
> > New business models
> >
> > We currently have Uber developing a driverless vehicle,


No more jobs driving for Uber???  And it was such a great new opportunity just getting started!


> > and Google
> > advancing its driverless car and investigating a ridesharing model.
> >
> > Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly gearing up to challenge Telsa in
> > electric cars and Silicon Valley is extending its reach into the auto
> > industry.
> >
> > These developments signal the creation of an entirely new shared
> > economy businesses that will tap into a new market that could see
> > smart mobility seamlessly integrated in our lives.


States will have to adjust somehow to losing funds from selling driver's licenses.  So a lot more people will also be running around without IDs!  Money gotten by busting drunk drivers will dry up, because nobody will be driving at all anymore!  The biggest problem will be the computers doing erratic things when unforeseen situations arise on the road.

Double-A



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#530976

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-07 14:29 -0500
Message-ID<Tis%x.6238$1Z.2949@fx01.iad>
In reply to#530961
On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 6:48:26 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley
> wrote:
>> Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html
>>
>>
>>> The transition to fully driverless cars is still several years
>>> away, but vehicle automation has already started to change the
>>> way we are thinking about transportation, and it is set to
>>> disrupt business models throughout the automotive industry.
>>>
>>> Driverless cars are also likely to create new business
>>> opportunities and have a broad reach, touching companies and
>>> industries beyond the automotive industry and giving rise to a
>>> wide range of products and services.
>>>
>>> New business models
>>>
>>> We currently have Uber developing a driverless vehicle,
>
>
> No more jobs driving for Uber???  And it was such a great new
> opportunity just getting started!
>
>
>>> and Google advancing its driverless car and investigating a
>>> ridesharing model.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly gearing up to challenge Telsa in
>>> electric cars and Silicon Valley is extending its reach into the
>>> auto industry.
>>>
>>> These developments signal the creation of an entirely new shared
>>> economy businesses that will tap into a new market that could
>>> see smart mobility seamlessly integrated in our lives.
>
>
> States will have to adjust somehow to losing funds from selling
> driver's licenses.  So a lot more people will also be running around
> without IDs!  Money gotten by busting drunk drivers will dry up,
> because nobody will be driving at all anymore!  The biggest problem
> will be the computers doing erratic things when unforeseen situations
> arise on the road.
>
> Double-A

AA you vastly underestimate the creative ability of gummint bureaucrats 
to extract money from public sheeple.

Being ID-less will NEVER be tolerated. Every citizen MUST be given a 
number at birth that tracks their every move until they die. If the 
"driver's license" story doesn't sell then a new one will be invented.

As for drunk drivers, we've already crossed that hurdle where being 
drunk as a passenger or having booze in the car is taken as being the 
same as drunk driving. Even better with computer-controlled slave 
population you can rig it so that say the car passenger doesn't put 
their seatbelt on. The computer notices, informs the authorities, writes 
a ticket and withdraws the fine and court costs from your bank account 
while you are still riding in the car. That should make driving safer 
for everyone. If just one life is saved, it's worth it!


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#531251

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-11-08 14:18 -0800
Message-ID<a8689b30-b334-488f-896b-a29cd007e629@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#530976
On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:29:59 AM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 6:48:26 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley
> > wrote:
> >> Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
> >>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html
> >>
> >>
> >>> The transition to fully driverless cars is still several years
> >>> away, but vehicle automation has already started to change the
> >>> way we are thinking about transportation, and it is set to
> >>> disrupt business models throughout the automotive industry.
> >>>
> >>> Driverless cars are also likely to create new business
> >>> opportunities and have a broad reach, touching companies and
> >>> industries beyond the automotive industry and giving rise to a
> >>> wide range of products and services.
> >>>
> >>> New business models
> >>>
> >>> We currently have Uber developing a driverless vehicle,
> >
> >
> > No more jobs driving for Uber???  And it was such a great new
> > opportunity just getting started!
> >
> >
> >>> and Google advancing its driverless car and investigating a
> >>> ridesharing model.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly gearing up to challenge Telsa in
> >>> electric cars and Silicon Valley is extending its reach into the
> >>> auto industry.
> >>>
> >>> These developments signal the creation of an entirely new shared
> >>> economy businesses that will tap into a new market that could
> >>> see smart mobility seamlessly integrated in our lives.
> >
> >
> > States will have to adjust somehow to losing funds from selling
> > driver's licenses.  So a lot more people will also be running around
> > without IDs!  Money gotten by busting drunk drivers will dry up,
> > because nobody will be driving at all anymore!  The biggest problem
> > will be the computers doing erratic things when unforeseen situations
> > arise on the road.
> >
> > Double-A
> 
> AA you vastly underestimate the creative ability of gummint bureaucrats 
> to extract money from public sheeple.
> 
> Being ID-less will NEVER be tolerated. Every citizen MUST be given a 
> number at birth that tracks their every move until they die. If the 
> "driver's license" story doesn't sell then a new one will be invented.
> 
> As for drunk drivers, we've already crossed that hurdle where being 
> drunk as a passenger or having booze in the car is taken as being the 
> same as drunk driving. Even better with computer-controlled slave 
> population you can rig it so that say the car passenger doesn't put 
> their seatbelt on. The computer notices, informs the authorities, writes 
> a ticket and withdraws the fine and court costs from your bank account 
> while you are still riding in the car. That should make driving safer 
> for everyone. If just one life is saved, it's worth it!


I'm impressed!

Double-A

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#531476

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-09 12:59 -0600
Message-ID<n1qqfc$ghe$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#530976
On 11/7/2015 1:29 PM, benj wrote:
> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:

>>
>> Double-A
>
> AA you vastly underestimate the creative ability of gummint bureaucrats
> to extract money from public sheeple.
>
> Being ID-less will NEVER be tolerated. Every citizen MUST be given a
> number at birth that tracks their every move until they die. If the
> "driver's license" story doesn't sell then a new one will be invented.
>
> As for drunk drivers, we've already crossed that hurdle where being
> drunk as a passenger or having booze in the car is taken as being the
> same as drunk driving. Even better with computer-controlled slave
> population you can rig it so that say the car passenger doesn't put
> their seatbelt on. The computer notices, informs the authorities, writes
> a ticket and withdraws the fine and court costs from your bank account
> while you are still riding in the car. That should make driving safer
> for everyone. If just one life is saved, it's worth it!

agree, but I think the driverless car should gently eject the drunk 
passenger, or take him to jail.

As the Drunk could get further injured after being delivered to his 
destination, perhaps his home, where he then beats up the wife, can't be 
part of that.

Could a determined drunk, or passenger make the driverless car run over 
someone ?  Idea would be that passenger flees the scene, leaving the 
driverless car at fault.

This says the driverless car must have full ID of the passenger, and 
facial recognition, and lock to trap the tampering individual, set alarm 
until police come.

Could an accident be staged w a driverless car to collect insurance ?

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#531493

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-09 19:56 +0000
Message-ID<pba7hc-b65.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#531476
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 11/7/2015 1:29 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> Double-A
>>
>> AA you vastly underestimate the creative ability of gummint bureaucrats
>> to extract money from public sheeple.
>>
>> Being ID-less will NEVER be tolerated. Every citizen MUST be given a
>> number at birth that tracks their every move until they die. If the
>> "driver's license" story doesn't sell then a new one will be invented.
>>
>> As for drunk drivers, we've already crossed that hurdle where being
>> drunk as a passenger or having booze in the car is taken as being the
>> same as drunk driving. Even better with computer-controlled slave
>> population you can rig it so that say the car passenger doesn't put
>> their seatbelt on. The computer notices, informs the authorities, writes
>> a ticket and withdraws the fine and court costs from your bank account
>> while you are still riding in the car. That should make driving safer
>> for everyone. If just one life is saved, it's worth it!
> 
> agree, but I think the driverless car should gently eject the drunk 
> passenger, or take him to jail.

If it is actually a driverless car, who cares and what difference
does it make if someone in it is drunk, or even unconscious?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#531555

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-09 16:24 -0600
Message-ID<n1r6e7$cmc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#531493
On 11/9/2015 1:56 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 11/7/2015 1:29 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>

>>
>> agree, but I think the driverless car should gently eject the drunk
>> passenger, or take him to jail.
>
> If it is actually a driverless car, who cares and what difference
> does it make if someone in it is drunk, or even unconscious?
>
>

Idea- how about a driverless car that serves booze/beer/alkehaul as well ?

a drink for $20, just swipe the card, the dispencer poors you a drink, 
get plastered on the way, and not have to drive...

for $50, you could get the car to circle downtown, while getting toasty 
with your friends.

THAT is the future of driverless car.

...and more...

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#531573

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-09 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<qrk7hc-u86.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#531555
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 1:56 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/7/2015 1:29 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>>
> 
>>>
>>> agree, but I think the driverless car should gently eject the drunk
>>> passenger, or take him to jail.
>>
>> If it is actually a driverless car, who cares and what difference
>> does it make if someone in it is drunk, or even unconscious?
>>
>>
> 
> Idea- how about a driverless car that serves booze/beer/alkehaul as well ?

Sure, why not.
 
> a drink for $20, just swipe the card, the dispencer poors you a drink, 
> get plastered on the way, and not have to drive...
> 
> for $50, you could get the car to circle downtown, while getting toasty 
> with your friends.

Not sure why anyone would want to do that.

> THAT is the future of driverless car.
> 
> ...and more...

I think the driverless car has about the same future as the Aston Martin.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#531578

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-11-09 15:09 -0800
Message-ID<a2a7e9b8-005e-46e6-91c5-b3a903e5fd75@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#531555
On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:24:13 PM UTC-8, gilber34 wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 1:56 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/7/2015 1:29 PM, benj wrote:
> >>> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
> >>
> 
> >>
> >> agree, but I think the driverless car should gently eject the drunk
> >> passenger, or take him to jail.
> >
> > If it is actually a driverless car, who cares and what difference
> > does it make if someone in it is drunk, or even unconscious?
> >
> >
> 
> Idea- how about a driverless car that serves booze/beer/alkehaul as well ?
> 
> a drink for $20, just swipe the card, the dispencer poors you a drink, 
> get plastered on the way, and not have to drive...
> 
> for $50, you could get the car to circle downtown, while getting toasty 
> with your friends.
> 
> THAT is the future of driverless car.
> 
> ...and more...


For those states where it is now legal, your driverless car would be a great place to smoke a roach as well!

Double-A

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#531670

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-09 20:29 -0600
Message-ID<n1rkr4$7q9$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#531578
On 11/9/2015 5:09 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:24:13 PM UTC-8, gilber34 wrote:
>> On 11/9/2015 1:56 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/7/2015 1:29 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 11/07/2015 01:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>>>
>>

>>>> agree, but I think the driverless car should gently eject the drunk
>>>> passenger, or take him to jail.
>>>
>>> If it is actually a driverless car, who cares and what difference
>>> does it make if someone in it is drunk, or even unconscious?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Idea- how about a driverless car that serves booze/beer/alkehaul as well ?

>> a drink for $20, just swipe the card, the dispencer poors you a drink,
>> get plastered on the way, and not have to drive...
>>
>> for $50, you could get the car to circle downtown, while getting toasty
>> with your friends.
>>
>> THAT is the future of driverless car.

>> ...and more...
>
>
> For those states where it is now legal, your driverless car would be a great place to smoke a roach as well!
>
> Double-A
>


disgusting, guess you get your protein this way;

http://www.freakingnews.com/2FMan-Smoking-a-Cockroach-Pictures-81755.asp


anyhow, driverless car cannot participate in anything illegal,
	like transporting illegals,
	Smoke-um dope-um
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGi6j2VrL0o

What if you wanted to get rid of Grandma ?  (Alzheimer like)
Could you put her in a driverless car and send to Canada, one way?

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#530964

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-07 18:55 +0000
Message-ID<c1u1hc-f7g.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#530880
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Driverless cars will change the way we think of car ownership
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-driverless-cars-car-ownership.html
> 
> 
>> The transition to fully driverless cars is still several years away,
>> but vehicle automation has already started to change the way we are
>> thinking about transportation, and it is set to disrupt business
>> models throughout the automotive industry.
>>
>> Driverless cars are also likely to create new business opportunities
>> and have a broad reach, touching companies and industries beyond the
>> automotive industry and giving rise to a wide range of products and
>> services.
>>
>> New business models
>>
>> We currently have Uber developing a driverless vehicle, and Google
>> advancing its driverless car and investigating a ridesharing model.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Apple is reportedly gearing up to challenge Telsa in
>> electric cars and Silicon Valley is extending its reach into the auto
>> industry.
>>
>> These developments signal the creation of an entirely new shared
>> economy businesses that will tap into a new market that could see
>> smart mobility seamlessly integrated in our lives.
 
Oh, sure, mom nees to drop 4 screeming kids off at soccer and get
groceries... 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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