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Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time

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  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-20 13:56 -0800
    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-12-21 11:12 -0500
      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 08:42 -0800
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 13:11 -0800
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:36 -0600
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 08:04 -0800
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:19 -0600
              he c0uld d0 that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:11 -0800
              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 01:13 -0800
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 01:18 -0800
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 16:01 -0800
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-22 17:33 -0500
              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 15:55 -0800
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 16:37 -0800
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 10:27 -0600
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-23 18:49 +0000
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-22 17:31 -0500
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-26 14:53 -0800
      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time little brother <andronicus451@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 07:44 -0800
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:08 -0800
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:34 -0600
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-12 03:32 +0000
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-01-11 22:25 -0800
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 02:54 -0800
              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-12 16:07 +0000
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:11 -0600
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 09:21 -0800
                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-12 19:14 +0000
                    spectrum of wavingstuff noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:40 -0800
                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:54 -0800
                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-13 02:47 +0000
                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 03:20 -0800
                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-13 19:44 +0000
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:29 -0800
                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:29 -0800
                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-12 17:45 -0500
                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time thugstyle103@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 09:30 -0800
                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-13 20:02 +0000
                      magneto ... man thugstyle103@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 18:05 -0800
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:06 -0800
    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time little brother <andronicus451@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 05:32 -0800
      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 02:34 -0500
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 10:28 -0800
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 20:41 +0000
      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 10:22 -0800
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 14:30 -0800
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 16:18 -0800
    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-12-23 12:42 -0500
      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 10:21 -0800
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-23 11:19 -0800
      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-23 18:59 +0000
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 11:05 -0800
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-23 18:30 -0500
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:49 -0800
              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 13:22 -0800
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-28 16:04 -0800
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-24 16:22 +0000
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 16:24 -0800
              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-25 15:26 +0000
                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 11:13 -0800
                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 02:17 +0000
                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 19:45 -0800
                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 05:31 +0000
                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 10:40 -0600
                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:12 -0800
                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 13:04 -0600
                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:26 -0800
                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 13:07 -0600
                            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 12:33 -0800
                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 13:19 -0800
                                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 22:28 -0600
                                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 20:44 -0800
                                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 05:50 +0000
                                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 07:47 -0800
                                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 17:33 +0000
                                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 10:08 -0800
                                            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 22:10 +0000
                                              spectra from waves of emmission & absorption noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 15:31 -0800
                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 12:14 -0600
                                                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 11:09 -0800
                                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 13:36 -0600
                                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 16:52 -0800
                                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-02 20:10 -0500
                                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-03 15:30 +0000
                                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 15:00 -0600
                                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 17:02 -0800
                                            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 18:59 -0800
                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-01-04 08:02 -0800
                                                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-01-04 08:47 -0800
                                                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:50 -0600
                                                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 09:17 -0800
                                                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 11:30 -0600
                                                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 06:34 -0800
                                                        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 07:16 -0800
                                                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:17 -0600
                                                            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:40 -0800
                                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:08 -0600
                                                                of Antimatter bserveD noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 14:24 -0800
                                                          sorry, Dad noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:29 -0800
                                                            sorry, Dad john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 14:15 -0800
                                                          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 19:03 -0800
                                                            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 19:14 -0800
                                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-08 06:59 +0000
                                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-01-09 10:19 -0800
                                                            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 11:27 -0800
                                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 13:50 -0600
                                                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-04 18:45 +0000
                                                    timewise noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 11:48 -0800
                                                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 13:14 -0800
                                                      tock noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:32 -0800
                                                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 04:10 +0000
                                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:28 -0600
                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-28 03:39 +0000
                                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 06:01 -0800
                                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 08:04 -0800
                                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-28 20:33 +0000
                                    Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 13:35 -0600
                                      Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 12:32 -0800
                                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-28 16:28 +0000
                              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 22:28 -0600
                                Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-12-29 00:36 -0500
                  Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 10:39 -0600
            Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 18:51 -0800
              Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-25 15:23 +0000
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 10:34 -0600
        Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:43 -0800
          Re: Spectrum Of Antimatter Observed For First Time john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 14:04 -0800

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#610144

Fromlittle brother <andronicus451@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 05:32 -0800
Message-ID<22250f58-e149-42fc-be6f-39be44f2e7cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#609769
On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 10:56:14 PM UTC+1, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:39:43 PM UTC-8, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > SPECTRUM OF ANTIMATTER OBSERVED FOR FIRST TIME
> > 
> > By Matt Williams
> > Universe Today, universetoday.com
> > Monday, December 19, 2016
> > 
> > Ever since the existence of antimatter was proposed in
> > the early 20th century, scientists have sought to
> > understand how relates to normal matter, and why there is
> > an apparent imbalance between the two in the Universe. To
> > do this, particle physics research in the past few
> > decades has focused on the anti-particle of the most
> > elementary and abundant atom in the Universe -- the
> > antihydrogen particle.
> > 
> > Until recently, this has been very difficult, as
> > scientists have been able to produce antihydrogen, but
> > unable to study it for long before it annihilated. But
> > according to recent a study that was published in Nature,
> > a team using the ALPHA experiment was able to obtain the
> > first spectral information on antihydrogen. This
> > achievement, which was 20 years in the making, could open
> > up an entirely new era of research into antimatter.
> > 
> > Measuring how elements absorb or emit light -- i.e.
> > spectroscopy -- is a major aspect of physics, chemistry
> > and astronomy. Not only does it allow scientists to
> > characterize atoms and molecules, it allows
> > astrophysicists to determine the composition of distant
> > stars by analyzing the spectrum of the light they emit.
> > 
> > Continues at:
> > 
> > http://www.universetoday.com/132496/spectrum-antimatter-observed-first-time/
> > 
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> > 
> > http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
> 
> 
> Just goes to show that there is no way of knowing whether the starlight we are seeing is coming from matter or antimatter stars!
> 
> Double-A

Also, it is just assumed that annihilation of i.e. proton and antiproton will bring energy (most likely pair of gamma photons).

It is also not clear if first matter-antimatter particle pairs come from energy, where did energy come from in Big Bang? It seems that we re still missing something before t=0.0 yoctoseconds.

lb

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#610388

FromYousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date2016-12-26 02:34 -0500
Message-ID<-tKdnfC-xvhrWv3FnZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#610144
On 12/23/2016 8:32 AM, little brother wrote:
> Also, it is just assumed that annihilation of i.e. proton and antiproton will bring energy (most likely pair of gamma photons).
>
> It is also not clear if first matter-antimatter particle pairs come from energy, where did energy come from in Big Bang? It seems that we re still missing something before t=0.0 yoctoseconds.

Some theories suggest that the Big Bang came from a quantum vacuum 
fluctuation.

	Yousuf Khan

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#610398

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-26 10:28 -0800
Message-ID<1f9df819-69e5-47e1-9d35-b41dc1caa123@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610388
Okay,
something very simple:
the jets of excited matter that
shoot away sometimes from AGNs-
at right-angles to the turning disc
on both sides- must reflect by their
spin which side they come from.
It is all from the turning galactic disc. 
But some say the galactic field that propels
these jets is always there, and
only visible when stars shred- like
releasing smoke into a wind tunnel.
So the field on each side must also
twist oppositely as it travels away.

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#610402

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-26 20:41 +0000
Message-ID<o3rva1$ctk$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#610398
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Okay,
>something very simple:
>the jets of excited matter that
>shoot away sometimes from AGNs-
>at right-angles to the turning disc
>on both sides- must reflect by their
>spin which side they come from.

They don't have spin, there's nothing to hold them together as a rotating
object.  The jets are high speed plasma.

>It is all from the turning galactic disc. 
>But some say the galactic field that propels
>these jets is always there, and
>only visible when stars shred- like
>releasing smoke into a wind tunnel.
>So the field on each side must also
>twist oppositely as it travels away.

The complexity of the electromagnetic fields reflects the state of the
electromagnetic field L/c in the past.

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#610506

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2016-12-27 10:22 -0800
Message-ID<ab2f55bb-0661-48a4-b735-60da9a05fe1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610144
On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 8:32:33 AM UTC-5, little brother wrote:
[]
> 
> Also, it is just assumed that annihilation of i.e. proton and antiproton
> will bring energy (most likely pair of gamma photons).

NOT ASSUMED. Measured.
> 
> It is also not clear if first matter-antimatter particle pairs come
> from energy,

Well at the bang, it was all energy. Quantum Mechanics shows how it works.


>            where did energy come from in Big Bang? It seems that
> we re still missing something before t=0.0 yoctoseconds.

Well I would agree with you there. There are always open questions
in physics.

ed
> 
> lb

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#610645

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-28 14:30 -0800
Message-ID<6a87ab93-f8c9-41e2-9a8c-8b62a8fda444@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610506
see The big bang ne'er happeneD by a student of Alfven at u.c.s.d

> Well at the bang, it was all energy. Quantum Mechanics shows how it works.
> 
> 
> >            where did energy come from in Big Bang? It seems that
> > we re still missing something before t=0.0 yoctoseconds.
> 
> Well I would agree with you there. There are always open questions
> in physics.
> 
> ed
> > 
> > lb

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#610690

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-28 16:18 -0800
Message-ID<9bf3f406-622b-4213-a342-ef3cee4178cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610645
Alfven is the only guy,
after whom waves have been named;
they are fast, medium and slow alfvenic waves, although
I really don't yet know,what that means;
ask at your local u. astrophysics seminar

> see The big bang ne'er happeneD by a student of Alfven at u.c.s.d

> > > we re still missing something before t=0.0 yoctoseconds.

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#610157

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-12-23 12:42 -0500
Message-ID<iqnq5ch5ao9n079cge5r51ho2o07t0a3o8@4ax.com>
In reply to#609769
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:56:10 -0800 (PST), Double-A wrote:

>On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:39:43 PM UTC-8, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> SPECTRUM OF ANTIMATTER OBSERVED FOR FIRST TIME

Can't find the OP to reply to, so replying to AA's post.

If the spectrum of anti-hydrogen looks just like that of hydrogen, how
do we know there aren't stars made of anti-hydrogen?

The claim is that most of the antimatter didn't survive long after the
big bang.

Maybe there are galaxies of antimatter that are indistinguishable from
normal matter.

How would we know the difference by using a spectrograph?

What else tells us that a distant galaxy isn't composed entirely of
antimatter?

In the world of Star Trek: how would one know to avoid an antimatter
star, whose solar wind would annihilate the ship made from normal
matter?

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#610158

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 10:21 -0800
Message-ID<c5ba721d-a7bf-429e-8571-42a138dd2c99@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610157
On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 9:42:33 AM UTC-8, Wally W. wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:56:10 -0800 (PST), Double-A wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:39:43 PM UTC-8, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> >> SPECTRUM OF ANTIMATTER OBSERVED FOR FIRST TIME
> 
> Can't find the OP to reply to, so replying to AA's post.
> 
> If the spectrum of anti-hydrogen looks just like that of hydrogen, how
> do we know there aren't stars made of anti-hydrogen?
> 
> The claim is that most of the antimatter didn't survive long after the
> big bang.
> 
> Maybe there are galaxies of antimatter that are indistinguishable from
> normal matter.
> 
> How would we know the difference by using a spectrograph?
> 
> What else tells us that a distant galaxy isn't composed entirely of
> antimatter?
> 
> In the world of Star Trek: how would one know to avoid an antimatter
> star, whose solar wind would annihilate the ship made from normal   Our universe
> matter?

Our universe is 99.99999999999999999999 matter and Treb's is the same amount of anti-matter. Thus his atoms are positron,and ours are electrons. Reality is at the big bang positrons (Anti-matter) was created a trillionth of a second first.Thus my "TIME LAPSE THEORY" shows why the two universes survived.In reality they never can touch.  Its very simple,and is the reason its getting more and more accepted. Einstein,Bohr,Feynman,Wheeler and most certainly Heisenberg would go with it. 15 more years and its Nobel worthy  TreBert

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#610169

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-23 11:19 -0800
Message-ID<o3jtdj$elt$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#610158
"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"Reality shows why" Glazier said:
"I am now depressed ,bored. 
It is sad I left Ma. Miss my Great Grankids.
I am sad to leave Fullerton O ya"  TreBert
>
hanson wrote:
So, Glazier you Swine, your are still here because your 
Great Grandkids didn't want to see you, since they are 
embarrassed to be near their Great Grandpa Bert who 
is a Faceshitter and a Criminal Graveyard Vandal. "O ya"
"Go Figure"

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#610165

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-23 18:59 +0000
Message-ID<o3js63$vvl$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#610157
Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> writes:

>If the spectrum of anti-hydrogen looks just like that of hydrogen, how
>do we know there aren't stars made of anti-hydrogen?

>The claim is that most of the antimatter didn't survive long after the
>big bang.

>Maybe there are galaxies of antimatter that are indistinguishable from
>normal matter.

>How would we know the difference by using a spectrograph?

>What else tells us that a distant galaxy isn't composed entirely of
>antimatter?

>In the world of Star Trek: how would one know to avoid an antimatter
>star, whose solar wind would annihilate the ship made from normal
>matter?

I heard this as a puzzle once.  Let's say we have faster-than-light
communication with an approaching spaceship from another galaxy
that wants to pay us a visit.  How could we tell if the spaceship
is matter or antimatter by asking the approaching alien to do some
experiment or tell us the results of a previous experiment, before
he encounters us and possibly blows to bits?

Remember, if he is antimatter to us, to him he's matter and we're
antimatter...  we can't ask to measure the charge of an electron
since the charge assignment was originally arbitrary and he only
has his local (anti?)matter as a reference.

Unfortunately, I forget the answer.

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#610166

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 11:05 -0800
Message-ID<f1f9257d-a732-4213-a80a-5aa9dc6293c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610165
Michael forgot.
The only way the Universe can be half
matter and half antimatter is if
galaxies themselves are half and half.
This means some arms are antimatter stars
and some arms are matter stars.

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#610219

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-12-23 18:30 -0500
Message-ID<585db38b$0$33243$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#610166
On 12/23/2016 2:05 PM, john wrote:
> Michael forgot.
> The only way the Universe can be half
> matter and half antimatter is if
> galaxies themselves are half and half.
> This means some arms are antimatter stars
> and some arms are matter stars.
>
And the way you came up with this theory was?

How do you not know that there are antimatter universes the mirror of 
ours where Treeb lives that we normally do not see? Why do you assume 
that what we see is all there is? That is what Chimp and HVAC think.

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#610503

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-27 09:49 -0800
Message-ID<a3f52817-8576-4869-b90c-baed0ccd6a3d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610219
On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> On 12/23/2016 2:05 PM, john wrote:
> > Michael forgot.
> > The only way the Universe can be half
> > matter and half antimatter is if
> > galaxies themselves are half and half.
> > This means some arms are antimatter stars
> > and some arms are matter stars.
> >
> And the way you came up with this theory was?
> 
> How do you not know that there are antimatter universes the mirror of 
> ours where Treeb lives that we normally do not see? Why do you assume 
> that what we see is all there is? That is what Chimp and HVAC think.

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#610620

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-28 13:22 -0800
Message-ID<539b2761-30fe-472a-bfe4-0d71c45e41c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610503
On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 9:49:25 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> > On 12/23/2016 2:05 PM, john wrote:
> > > Michael forgot.
> > > The only way the Universe can be half
> > > matter and half antimatter is if
> > > galaxies themselves are half and half.
> > > This means some arms are antimatter stars
> > > and some arms are matter stars.
> > >
> > And the way you came up with this theory was?
> > 
> > How do you not know that there are antimatter universes the mirror of 
> > ours where Treeb lives that we normally do not see? Why do you assume 
> > that what we see is all there is? That is what Chimp and HVAC think.

Rubin died on Christmas day at 88. She was big on dark matter.Trebert

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#610680

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-28 16:04 -0800
Message-ID<o41jri$66f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#610620
"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
 > Rubin died on Christmas day at 88. She was big on 
> dark matter from Trebert the Face shitter who was doing 
this <http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
to her and his crowd of "Anon Y Mouse" & 8 other Bert-shit
-eaters of <http://tinyurl.com/Glazier-the-Lying-Swine> who
freely & happily laid themselves under Glazier's Sphincter,
especially Iran's "Anon Y. Maldrecki, the Mouse" aka 
"<ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> Mehram Maleki who
is the most fervent of Glazier's sphincter-lickers, and waits
reedily to feast on more of Bert's PFM (Poop For Maleki), ...
>
.. but never "got the picture" why Cohen said & meant:
_____   "Bert you Swine, 'You must repent' " _____
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkRqQQWu_mA>
ever since Tre:B::ert Glazier introduced himself with & as....
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works."
:B:: "My Grandfathers had tails". -- Trebert
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible (torra) Jew. I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 form letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: "God and religion is hocus pocus". Trebert.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's face
:B:: to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I left my dentures in Boston when I fled to CA
:B:: to evade my creditors & my daugher Sheri who
:B:: wanted to warehouse me in a nursing homne".
:B:: "I have a Social worker to make sure that I eat
:B:: my Lithium & 21 other pills. I paint Grey Cloud."
:B:: after sex with a Cuban cigar I drink bud .Trebert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I am living in my Van that I parked illegally
:B:: on Wal-Mart's property for over a year." Bert
:B:: "I shit into a bucket in my van and then throw
:B:: the bag full of crap into Walmart's Dumpsters"
:B:: "Mayor Tait told me to get lost when I demanded
:B::  a contract to clean the city's HVAC ducts.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I am a loser & so ugly I will not vote for myself"
:B:: "I re-franchize my M&M (Maggots & Manure).".
:B:: "I sell imaginary boats and defective patio decks"
:B:: "I stole & gave G=EMC^2 to the world", which
:B:: says: "Glazier Exhibits Micro Cephalic Cretinism"
:B:: "With G=EMC^2 I made all good posters leave s.p."
B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them"....
:B:: "I mixed sulfer, carb & iron to make gun powder"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "I got kicked out of school in the 4th grade. Bert.
:B:: "I am self-taught. I'm very *cleaver* out of the box."
:B:: "My cockroach taught me a lot. My grammar stinks".
:B:: "I have lived for too long.. back to the oven" Trebert.
:B::  "I called the Mental Health Hotline (800) 723-8641
:B::  spooked a lady with fearing to get shot in my head".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "While I was in custody of Osceola Sheriff Bob
:B:: Hansel, for thieving, his deputies beat me up.
:B:: I bought a 357 magnum for death threats by Hansel.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >


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#610271

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-24 16:22 +0000
Message-ID<o3m7ci$ot4$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#610166
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael forgot.
>The only way the Universe can be half
>matter and half antimatter is

But the universe is apparently NOT half matter and half antimatter.  Why 
it isn't is one of the big still-unsolved mysteries of physics.

> if
>galaxies themselves are half and half.
>This means some arms are antimatter stars
>and some arms are matter stars.

You never did give a good explanation for:

1) why don't we see lots of 511 keV gammas from annihilation as 
interstellar gas/plasma from the matter/antimatter arms encounter each 
other?  Remember, the negative electrons and positive positrons will race 
to each other to meet their doom.  Same for protons/antiprotons.

2) What about the center, which both matter arms and antimatter arms 
touch?  If it's matter, why don't the antimatter arms annihilate with
the center, and vice versa?

3) What about galaxies with an odd number of arms?

4) You claim (falsely) that matter and antimatter repel each other.
If that were true, what holds galaxies together?

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#610308

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-24 16:24 -0800
Message-ID<3c0bbac0-bd8c-4860-a5cf-1082f9ae67db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610271
Michael
Let's just deal with 3) first.
From
https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/SPGA_Atlas/SPGA11.html
"Occasionally spiral galaxies are encountered which have three well-defined arms instead of the usual two. The kind of perturbation which would create such arms is difficult to hypothesize so this Category has been assembled as a challenge to theories of spiral structure."

So, we see "what about odd-numbered 
arms galaxies"- they are rare.

You're right.
But not for the reason you'd think

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#610353

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-25 15:26 +0000
Message-ID<o3oofe$no7$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#610308
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>Let's just deal with 3) first.

>So, we see "what about odd-numbered
>arms galaxies"- they are rare.

But they do exist.  How can the rare 3 armed galaxies have arms
alternating between matter and antimatter?

And you still have #1, #2 and #4 to deal with, which shoot down your idea
in flames.  Plus other arguments I haven't thought of, I'm sure.

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#610359

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-25 11:13 -0800
Message-ID<01e97e23-4919-4783-8ad6-b730380f7dda@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#610353
Michael
"
But they do exist.  How can the rare 3 armed galaxies have arms 
alternating between matter and antimatter? "

If two of the arms are the same,
they will attract each other and coalesce.
This would seem to predict
double electrons, if they then remain
together. Presumably,  it would take some
time for 2 to become 1.

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