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  More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 13:09 -0700
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 16:56 -0400
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 14:15 -0700
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:39 -0500
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 15:43 -0700
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:50 -0500
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 11:36 -0500
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 23:04 -0700
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 20:59 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:18 -0500
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 20:49 -0400
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-23 01:29 +0000
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 16:59 -0400
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-23 21:12 +0000
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 19:58 -0400
                  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-24 05:36 +0000
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:52 -0500
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 17:06 -0400
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:10 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 20:03 -0700
                  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 20:19 -0700
                    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:10 -0500
                      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 09:51 -0700
                        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:55 -0500
                          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:03 -0700
                          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:25 -0700
                            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:52 -0500
                              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 14:16 -0700
                                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 16:29 -0500
                                  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 15:08 -0700
                                    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:20 -0500
                                      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 15:34 -0700
                                        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:18 -0500
                                          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 09:32 -0700
                                            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 13:04 -0500
                                              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 11:21 -0700
                                      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:35 -0700
                                        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-25 18:51 -0400
                                        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
                                  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-25 18:50 -0400
                      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:25 -0700
                        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:53 -0500
                  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:01 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:56 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 17:16 -0400
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 23:13 -0700
    More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-23 09:46 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 12:23 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 11:08 -0700
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:06 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-07-25 18:50 -0700
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 20:06 -0700
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:00 +0200
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 00:05 -0700
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:13 +0200
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 01:10 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 10:48 +0200
                  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 09:11 -0700

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#590353 — More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves

http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/

This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop. Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it won't be pretty.

ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...

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#590366

On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>
> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop. Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it won't be pretty.
>
> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>
Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the 
Warren Commission? On the Fed?

Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.

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#590375

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 1:56:42 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> > http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
> >
> > This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop. Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it won't be pretty.
> >
> > ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
> >
> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the 
> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
> 
> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.

True but even the mighty Roman empire came to an ignominious end. Besides, this is a new age, the age of the global internet. Knowledge is increasing rapidly and science is no longer the exclusive playground of a few elitist assholes. Everybody has access to it and anything can happen. Disruptive things. Wait for it.

ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...

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#590383

On 7/22/2016 4:15 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> True but even the mighty Roman empire came to an ignominious end. Besides, this is a
> new age, the age of the global internet. Knowledge is increasing rapidly and science
> is no longer the exclusive playground of a few elitist assholes. Everybody has access
> to it and anything can happen. Disruptive things. Wait for it.
>
> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...

Expertise requires 10,000 hours of concentrated effort and training. The 
"global internet" does not change that. It does not impart knowledge and 
understanding to the casual everyman. Having access to a search engine 
will not make you competent to practice medicine, or to design 
buildings, or to compose music, or to play chess, or to build furniture, 
or to do experimental science.

It is the fantasy of the terminally lazy and miserably ignorant that 
they will be able to have knowledge and influence due to some imagined 
coming "revolution", and that they will be lifted up as a kind of mental 
proletariat, where all are equal, all will have the same value, and none 
will have any position of higher regard. Savain revels in the Biblical 
passage that says the first shall be last and the last shall be first, 
because that's his only hope, and a fervent one at that.

It does not occur to NUTJOBS like Savain, that their feelings of 
oppression come from dissatisfaction with their own accomplishments, and 
that the lack of accomplishments is rooted in their own lack of 
dedication, their own laziness, their own aversion to failure, and their 
unwillingness to accept responsibility for their own lot. This is why 
McGinn, for example, has to live in a duplex funded by his parents, with 
no vocation other than to wander down the street to a park to record 
himself talking. Savain, no doubt, is in a similar position.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590398

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:40:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 4:15 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> > True but even the mighty Roman empire came to an ignominious end. Besides, this is a
> > new age, the age of the global internet. Knowledge is increasing rapidly and science
> > is no longer the exclusive playground of a few elitist assholes. Everybody has access
> > to it and anything can happen. Disruptive things. Wait for it.
> >
> > ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
> 
> Expertise requires 10,000 hours of concentrated effort and training. The 
> "global internet" does not change that. It does not impart knowledge and 
> understanding to the casual everyman. Having access to a search engine 
> will not make you competent to practice medicine, or to design 
> buildings, or to compose music, or to play chess, or to build furniture, 
> or to do experimental science.
> 
> It is the fantasy of the terminally lazy and miserably ignorant that 
> they will be able to have knowledge and influence due to some imagined 
> coming "revolution", and that they will be lifted up as a kind of mental 
> proletariat, where all are equal, all will have the same value, and none 
> will have any position of higher regard. Savain revels in the Biblical 
> passage that says the first shall be last and the last shall be first, 
> because that's his only hope, and a fervent one at that.
> 
> It does not occur to NUTJOBS like Savain, that their feelings of 
> oppression come from dissatisfaction with their own accomplishments, and 
> that the lack of accomplishments is rooted in their own lack of 
> dedication, their own laziness, their own aversion to failure, and their 
> unwillingness to accept responsibility for their own lot. This is why 
> McGinn, for example, has to live in a duplex funded by his parents, with 
> no vocation other than to wander down the street to a park to record 
> himself talking. Savain, no doubt, is in a similar position.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

You're a homosexual, I know. You just gotta feed that obsession.

ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...

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#590455

On 7/22/2016 5:43 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:40:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 4:15 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>> True but even the mighty Roman empire came to an ignominious end. Besides, this is a
>>> new age, the age of the global internet. Knowledge is increasing rapidly and science
>>> is no longer the exclusive playground of a few elitist assholes. Everybody has access
>>> to it and anything can happen. Disruptive things. Wait for it.
>>>
>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>
>> Expertise requires 10,000 hours of concentrated effort and training. The
>> "global internet" does not change that. It does not impart knowledge and
>> understanding to the casual everyman. Having access to a search engine
>> will not make you competent to practice medicine, or to design
>> buildings, or to compose music, or to play chess, or to build furniture,
>> or to do experimental science.
>>
>> It is the fantasy of the terminally lazy and miserably ignorant that
>> they will be able to have knowledge and influence due to some imagined
>> coming "revolution", and that they will be lifted up as a kind of mental
>> proletariat, where all are equal, all will have the same value, and none
>> will have any position of higher regard. Savain revels in the Biblical
>> passage that says the first shall be last and the last shall be first,
>> because that's his only hope, and a fervent one at that.
>>
>> It does not occur to NUTJOBS like Savain, that their feelings of
>> oppression come from dissatisfaction with their own accomplishments, and
>> that the lack of accomplishments is rooted in their own lack of
>> dedication, their own laziness, their own aversion to failure, and their
>> unwillingness to accept responsibility for their own lot. This is why
>> McGinn, for example, has to live in a duplex funded by his parents, with
>> no vocation other than to wander down the street to a park to record
>> himself talking. Savain, no doubt, is in a similar position.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> You're a homosexual, I know. You just gotta feed that obsession.

I'll be sure to let my wife know you think so.

>
> ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590460

On 7/22/2016 5:43 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> You're a homosexual, I know. You just gotta feed that obsession.

Isn't it remarkable that in your compulsion to fire the last shot, 
you'll resort to stuff like this?

Isn't it remarkable that you SAY you don't like the responses you're 
getting to your posts, but here you still are, continuing to post to a 
newsgroup you said was dead and useless and not worth posting to?

Isn't it remarkable how starved for attention some people are that they 
splatter their rantings in replicate in TWO blog sites, reddit, Google+, 
and a half-dozen other social media sites, and they STILL are not happy 
with their visibility?

Say, whatever happened to that little company you founded in 1999 to 
publish your screeds? Oh that's right, you couldn't pay taxes and it 
folded. Here's the thing: whatever image you're trying to cultivate, 
you're leaving stinking garbage in your wake. When you're on the trail, 
you're supposed to pick up after yourself.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590437

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 12:40:00 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 4:15 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> > True but even the mighty Roman empire came to an ignominious end. Besides, this is a
> > new age, the age of the global internet. Knowledge is increasing rapidly and science
> > is no longer the exclusive playground of a few elitist assholes. Everybody has access
> > to it and anything can happen. Disruptive things. Wait for it.
> >
> > ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
> 
> Expertise requires 10,000 hours of concentrated effort and training. The 
> "global internet" does not change that. It does not impart knowledge and 
> understanding to the casual everyman. Having access to a search engine 
> will not make you competent to practice medicine, or to design 
> buildings, or to compose music, or to play chess, or to build furniture, 
> or to do experimental science.
> 
> It is the fantasy of the terminally lazy and miserably ignorant that 
> they will be able to have knowledge and influence due to some imagined 
> coming "revolution", and that they will be lifted up as a kind of mental 
> proletariat, where all are equal, all will have the same value, and none 
> will have any position of higher regard. Savain revels in the Biblical 
> passage that says the first shall be last and the last shall be first, 
> because that's his only hope, and a fervent one at that.
> 
> It does not occur to NUTJOBS like Savain, that their feelings of 
> oppression come from dissatisfaction with their own accomplishments, and 
> that the lack of accomplishments is rooted in their own lack of 
> dedication, their own laziness, their own aversion to failure, and their 
> unwillingness to accept responsibility for their own lot. This is why 
> McGinn, for example, has to live in a duplex funded by his parents, with 
> no vocation other than to wander down the street to a park to record 
> himself talking. Savain, no doubt, is in a similar position.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
===========================
shameless hired gangster parrot 
anonymous pig 
Paul Draper 
Y.p
=======================

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#590424

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:15:39 PM UTC-7, mapo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 1:56:42 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> > On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> > > http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
> > >
> > > This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop. Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it won't be pretty.
> > >
> > > ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
> > >
> > Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the 
> > Warren Commission? On the Fed?
> > 
> > Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
> 
> True but even the mighty Roman empire came to an ignominious end. Besides, this is a new age, the age of the global internet. Knowledge is increasing rapidly and science is no longer the exclusive playground of a few elitist assholes. Everybody has access to it and anything can happen. Disruptive things. Wait for it.
> 
> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...

Romans eat of lead plates .Lead in their brains.USA is 100% Mafia they now can steal keep no books,and even give tax breaks so that are factories can end up in China.All stock trading is inside. 400 very rich people control us.Trump will be their president. We are now under attack by over 300,000,000 crazy people.Think 911 Think we the people have to do to be safe.It will get worse when we have to be x-ray to fly.  I predict by 2025  people will drive because its to much of a hazard to fly.Planes are flying bombs. Terrorists live by the bomb. When they have H-bomb they will be happy to use it even if it wipes them out as well  Trebert

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#590377

On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>
>>
>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>> won't be pretty.
>>
>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>
> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>
> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.

What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of 
$750k. Not particularly big.

The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you 
have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a 
whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the 
technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be 
as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices 
actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by 
accident.

Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years 
ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in 
that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a 
misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590407

On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>> won't be pretty.
>>>
>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>
>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>
>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>
> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
> $750k. Not particularly big.
>
> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
> accident.

Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty 
of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know 
that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?

> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.

Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your 
client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that 
means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't 
want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?

Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?

Nevermind. I don't want to know.

OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely 
accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof 
beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You 
support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.

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#590419

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>
>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>
>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>
>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>
>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>
>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>> accident.
> 
> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty 
> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know 
> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
> 
>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
> 
> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your 
> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that 
> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't 
> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
> 
> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
> 
> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
> 
> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely 
> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof 
> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You 
> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.

What the Condon Report actually said:

"Our general conclusion is that nothing has come from the study of UFOs
in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful
consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to
conclude that further extensive study of UFOs probably cannot be
justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby." 

Or in other words, no one had found, or would be likely to find,
FTL drives and ray guns in crashed flying saucers.

Of course when the Air Force payed for scientific study of the upper
atmosphere and propagation, all the kooks came out of the wood work
yet again and labled HAARP as everything from mind control to weather
modifications.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#590482

On 7/22/2016 9:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>
>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>
>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>>
>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>
>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>>> accident.
>>
>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
>>
>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>
>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>
>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>>
>> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
>>
>> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely
>> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof
>> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You
>> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.
>
> What the Condon Report actually said:
>
> "Our general conclusion is that nothing has come from the study of UFOs
> in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful
> consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to
> conclude that further extensive study of UFOs probably cannot be
> justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby."
>
> Or in other words, no one had found, or would be likely to find,
> FTL drives and ray guns in crashed flying saucers.

On the other hand fiber optics, transistors and Integrated circuits, and 
3rd generation night vision might be another story... IF you have the 
"need to know">

> Of course when the Air Force payed for scientific study of the upper
> atmosphere and propagation, all the kooks came out of the wood work
> yet again and labled HAARP as everything from mind control to weather
> modifications.

HAARP PATENT says it's for weather control. You dumb enough to think 
that weather control has no military applications? What kind of gummint 
work do you do anyway? shuffle papers?

Of course what the report REALLY said was we've already made up our mind 
on the results we are going to find and thus we find that among the 
carefully hand-picked incidents that we carefully choose, no science was 
found.

Too bad that the fraud was so blatant that part of the research team 
objected and wrote their own report. You debunkers just keep singing the 
same old song: Governments never lie. Trust us and give us your money! 
Nuff said. You and HVAC can go fishing now.

(PS I was talking to Boinker, not you)

A gummint "UFO cover-up" is proven by government's OWN RECORDS beyond 
any doubt. So to sing the debunker song is to either be a liar or be 
uninformed.

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#590487

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 9:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>>>
>>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>>>> accident.
>>>
>>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
>>>
>>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>>
>>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>>
>>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>>>
>>> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
>>>
>>> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely
>>> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof
>>> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You
>>> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.
>>
>> What the Condon Report actually said:
>>
>> "Our general conclusion is that nothing has come from the study of UFOs
>> in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful
>> consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to
>> conclude that further extensive study of UFOs probably cannot be
>> justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby."
>>
>> Or in other words, no one had found, or would be likely to find,
>> FTL drives and ray guns in crashed flying saucers.
> 
> On the other hand fiber optics, transistors and Integrated circuits, and 
> 3rd generation night vision might be another story... IF you have the 
> "need to know">

Or if you are crazy as a loon.

<snip remaining kook nonsense>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#590516

On 7/23/2016 5:12 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 9:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>>>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>>>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>>>>> accident.
>>>>
>>>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>>>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>>>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
>>>>
>>>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>>>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>>>
>>>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>>>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>>>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>>>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>>>
>>>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>>>>
>>>> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
>>>>
>>>> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely
>>>> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof
>>>> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You
>>>> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.
>>>
>>> What the Condon Report actually said:
>>>
>>> "Our general conclusion is that nothing has come from the study of UFOs
>>> in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful
>>> consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to
>>> conclude that further extensive study of UFOs probably cannot be
>>> justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby."
>>>
>>> Or in other words, no one had found, or would be likely to find,
>>> FTL drives and ray guns in crashed flying saucers.
>>
>> On the other hand fiber optics, transistors and Integrated circuits, and
>> 3rd generation night vision might be another story... IF you have the
>> "need to know">
>
> Or if you are crazy as a loon.
>
> <snip remaining kook nonsense>

Chimp is of the HVAC school of science knowledge: All you proofs of what 
you say use the same "you are insane" argument. That's real science, 
chimp. Go back to your paper shuffling.

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#590566

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/23/2016 5:12 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 9:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>>>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>>>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>>>>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>>>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>>>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>>>>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>>>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>>>>>> accident.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>>>>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>>>>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>>>>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>>>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>>>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>>>>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>>>>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>>>>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>>>>
>>>>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely
>>>>> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof
>>>>> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You
>>>>> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.
>>>>
>>>> What the Condon Report actually said:
>>>>
>>>> "Our general conclusion is that nothing has come from the study of UFOs
>>>> in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful
>>>> consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to
>>>> conclude that further extensive study of UFOs probably cannot be
>>>> justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby."
>>>>
>>>> Or in other words, no one had found, or would be likely to find,
>>>> FTL drives and ray guns in crashed flying saucers.
>>>
>>> On the other hand fiber optics, transistors and Integrated circuits, and
>>> 3rd generation night vision might be another story... IF you have the
>>> "need to know">
>>
>> Or if you are crazy as a loon.
>>
>> <snip remaining kook nonsense>
> 
> Chimp is of the HVAC school of science knowledge: All you proofs of what 
> you say use the same "you are insane" argument. That's real science, 
> chimp. Go back to your paper shuffling.
 
Aw, I ruffled the kooks feathers.
 
Perhaps the kook has a story to tell about how the point contact transistor
came from aliens instead of Bell Labs.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#590456

On 7/22/2016 7:49 PM, benj wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>
>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>
>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>
>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>
>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>
>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>> accident.
>
> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
>
>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>
> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>
> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?

I'm not sure what jury you're referring to here in the context of LIGO.
If you believe there is actionable fraud with LIGO, why aren't you 
hiring a lawyer to represent the offended class?

>
> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
>
> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely
> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof
> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You
> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590486

On 7/23/2016 11:52 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 7:49 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>
>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>
>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>>
>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>
>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>>> accident.
>>
>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
>>
>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>
>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>
>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>
> I'm not sure what jury you're referring to here in the context of LIGO.
> If you believe there is actionable fraud with LIGO, why aren't you
> hiring a lawyer to represent the offended class?

Because as a professional scientist I find it important for the state of 
human civilization to employ physicists and other scientists and keep 
their hands busy even at fraudulent activities. Think of it as the the 
way a concert musician must constantly practice. Hence, my tax money is 
being spent for useful if fraudulent purpose.

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#590597

On 7/23/2016 4:06 PM, benj wrote:
> On 7/23/2016 11:52 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 7:49 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On
>>>>> the
>>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going
>>>>> forever.
>>>>
>>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon
>>>> you
>>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices
>>>> would be
>>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work
>>>> merely by
>>>> accident.
>>>
>>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right
>>> counselor?
>>>
>>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty
>>>> years
>>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>>
>>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>>
>>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>>
>> I'm not sure what jury you're referring to here in the context of LIGO.
>> If you believe there is actionable fraud with LIGO, why aren't you
>> hiring a lawyer to represent the offended class?
>
> Because as a professional scientist I find it important for the state of
> human civilization to employ physicists and other scientists and keep
> their hands busy even at fraudulent activities. Think of it as the the
> way a concert musician must constantly practice. Hence, my tax money is
> being spent for useful if fraudulent purpose.

It's not fraudulent until proven fraudulent. Due process, innocent until 
proven guilty and all. So where is due process here?

>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590645

Odd spluttered
"It's not fraudulent until proven fraudulent. Due process, innocent until 
proven guilty and all. So where is due process here? "

Haha.
Extraordinary claims.
When Odd's bunch makes
them, they hardly need ANY proof.
'tard

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