Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves
Date	2016-07-24 15:10 -0500
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On 7/23/2016 4:06 PM, benj wrote:
> On 7/23/2016 11:52 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 7:49 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On
>>>>> the
>>>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going
>>>>> forever.
>>>>
>>>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>>>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon
>>>> you
>>>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>>>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>>>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices
>>>> would be
>>>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>>>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work
>>>> merely by
>>>> accident.
>>>
>>> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty
>>> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know
>>> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right
>>> counselor?
>>>
>>>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty
>>>> years
>>>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>>>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>>>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
>>>
>>> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your
>>> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that
>>> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't
>>> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
>>>
>>> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
>>
>> I'm not sure what jury you're referring to here in the context of LIGO.
>> If you believe there is actionable fraud with LIGO, why aren't you
>> hiring a lawyer to represent the offended class?
>
> Because as a professional scientist I find it important for the state of
> human civilization to employ physicists and other scientists and keep
> their hands busy even at fraudulent activities. Think of it as the the
> way a concert musician must constantly practice. Hence, my tax money is
> being spent for useful if fraudulent purpose.

It's not fraudulent until proven fraudulent. Due process, innocent until 
proven guilty and all. So where is due process here?

>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 13:09 -0700
  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 16:56 -0400
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 14:15 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:39 -0500
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 15:43 -0700
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:50 -0500
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 11:36 -0500
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 23:04 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 20:59 -0700
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:18 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 20:49 -0400
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-23 01:29 +0000
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 16:59 -0400
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-23 21:12 +0000
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 19:58 -0400
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-24 05:36 +0000
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:52 -0500
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 17:06 -0400
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:10 -0500
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 20:03 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 20:19 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:10 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 09:51 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:55 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:03 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:25 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:52 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 14:16 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 16:29 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 15:08 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:20 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 15:34 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:18 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 09:32 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 13:04 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 11:21 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:35 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-25 18:51 -0400
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-25 18:50 -0400
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:25 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:53 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:01 -0500
  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:56 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 17:16 -0400
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 23:13 -0700
  More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-23 09:46 -0700
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 12:23 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 11:08 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:06 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-07-25 18:50 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 20:06 -0700
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:00 +0200
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 00:05 -0700
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:13 +0200
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 01:10 -0700
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 10:48 +0200
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 09:11 -0700

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