Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves
Date	2016-07-23 01:29 +0000
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benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/22/2016 5:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/22/2016 3:56 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2016 4:09 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> http://news.syr.edu/physicist-awarded-grant-to-assess-authenticity-of-gravitational-wave-signals-51076/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the chicken coop.
>>>> Fraud can only go so far. The shit hits the fan sooner or later and it
>>>> won't be pretty.
>>>>
>>>> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...
>>>>
>>> Dream on. Did anyone ever blow the whistle on the Condon report? On the
>>> Warren Commission? On the Fed?
>>>
>>> Hey, with limitless taxpayer cash you can keep the fraud going forever.
>>
>> What's "limitless" defined as here? Syracuse was awarded a grant of
>> $750k. Not particularly big.
>>
>> The problem with calling "fraud" your whole life is that pretty soon you
>> have to say that a whole century's worth of science is a fraud as a
>> whole. The problem is, if it were all a fraud, then none of the
>> technology that uses that science would work. All those devices would be
>> as inert as a piece of wood. So then you have to deny that the devices
>> actually do work, even as you're using them, or that they work merely by
>> accident.
> 
> Great lawyerly argument, Boinker! If someon says your client is guilty 
> of fraud you argue that pretty soon EVERYONE is a fraud, and we know 
> that isn't true, there fore you client is innocent! Am I right counselor?
> 
>> Or you can quietly forgot that the stuff you called "fraud" thirty years
>> ago is actually confirmed AND working and that there wasn't fraud in
>> that case after all, and so maybe your squawking back then was a
>> misfire, and therefore might be also a misfire now.
> 
> Or we can buy your story and quietly drop the charges and let your 
> client go free because well someone was once wrongly convicted so that 
> means your client might ALSO end up wrongly convicted. We sure wouldn't 
> want to see an innocent man convicted, would we?
> 
> Say, Boinker, are juries actually stooopid enough to buy your bullshit?
> 
> Nevermind. I don't want to know.
> 
> OF course you will carefully ignore that the Condon Report was widely 
> accused of science fraud and now with the evidence in there is proof 
> beyond ANY doubt of guilt! But that doesn't bother you, does it. You 
> support crooks and fraudsters. Makes life easy for you.

What the Condon Report actually said:

"Our general conclusion is that nothing has come from the study of UFOs
in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful
consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to
conclude that further extensive study of UFOs probably cannot be
justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby." 

Or in other words, no one had found, or would be likely to find,
FTL drives and ray guns in crashed flying saucers.

Of course when the Air Force payed for scientific study of the upper
atmosphere and propagation, all the kooks came out of the wood work
yet again and labled HAARP as everything from mind control to weather
modifications.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 13:09 -0700
  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 16:56 -0400
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 14:15 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:39 -0500
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-22 15:43 -0700
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:50 -0500
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 11:36 -0500
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 23:04 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 20:59 -0700
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:18 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 20:49 -0400
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-23 01:29 +0000
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 16:59 -0400
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-23 21:12 +0000
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 19:58 -0400
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-24 05:36 +0000
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:52 -0500
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-23 17:06 -0400
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:10 -0500
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 20:03 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 20:19 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:10 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 09:51 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:55 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:03 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:25 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:52 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 14:16 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 16:29 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 15:08 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:20 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 15:34 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:18 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 09:32 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 13:04 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 11:21 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:35 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-25 18:51 -0400
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-25 18:50 -0400
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 12:25 -0700
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 15:53 -0500
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 08:01 -0500
  Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:56 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-22 17:16 -0400
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 23:13 -0700
  More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-23 09:46 -0700
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 12:23 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 11:08 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:06 -0500
    Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-07-25 18:50 -0700
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-25 20:06 -0700
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
      Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:00 +0200
        Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 00:05 -0700
          Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 09:13 +0200
            Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 01:10 -0700
              Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 10:48 +0200
                Re: More of the taxpayer's money going to LIGO thieves mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 09:11 -0700

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