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  Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky KCIR2 <rick_s7777777@yahoo.ca> - 2016-07-11 13:18 -0700
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#588811 — Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky

A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals, a newspaper clipper extraordinaire he is the social conscience of America and involved with human rights in the UN as well as many other accolades as you know from Linguistics and also philosophy.

Its a timely book and so it touches on a lot of the events of today and concerns that people have.

So I am just going to briefly sum up my opinion to the questions raised.
And I will use Israel as an example as you have done in the book.

Any God that was not there for Auschwitz, you don't need.

Any Allah that is not there at the public schools you routinely strafe in Palestine you don't need either.

Any World Cops that cannot make you pay fair market value for the land you are stealing from the Palestinians, we don't need. 

That means NATO.

The million UN resolutions gone unheeded have castrated the UN.

I would say we don't need that either but they have a lot of programs of humanitarian aid that work well.

If you want more of my commentary see the thread The System is Corrupt.

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#588812

On 7/11/2016 3:18 PM, KCIR2 wrote:
> A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals,

no, Noam Chumpsky, that guy is a burned out hippy proffessor from the 
70's, still fighting the military-industrial complex.  I saw him speek a 
few years back, and he is totally retro, stuck in the 70's.   But todays 
youths, with no knowledge of communiusm/socialism think what he say is 
cool, but it is the politics of envy.



> a
> newspaper clipper extraordinaire he is the social conscience of
> America and involved with human rights in the UN as well as many
> other accolades as you know from Linguistics and also philosophy.
>
> Its a timely book and so it touches on a lot of the events of today
> and concerns that people have.
>
> So I am just going to briefly sum up my opinion to the questions
> raised. And I will use Israel as an example as you have done in the
> book.
>
> Any God that was not there for Auschwitz, you don't need.
>
> Any Allah that is not there at the public schools you routinely
> strafe in Palestine you don't need either.
>
> Any World Cops that cannot make you pay fair market value for the
> land you are stealing from the Palestinians, we don't need.
>
> That means NATO.
>
> The million UN resolutions gone unheeded have castrated the UN.
>
> I would say we don't need that either but they have a lot of programs
> of humanitarian aid that work well.
>
> If you want more of my commentary see the thread The System is
> Corrupt.
>

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#588979

On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 3:37:06 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote:
> On 7/11/2016 3:18 PM, KCIR2 wrote:
> > A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals,
> no, Noam Chumpsky, that guy is a burned out hippy proffessor from the 
> 70's, still fighting the military-industrial complex.  I saw him speek a 
> few years back, and he is totally retro, stuck in the 70's.   But todays 
> youths, with no knowledge of communiusm/socialism think what he say is 
> cool, but it is the politics of envy.

A lot of the Culture War partisans are or have got that way; apparently not noticing that this is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CENTURY (HELLO?!) Ahem ... must regain composure. As I was saying it might be partly related to the fact that one of the early signs of Alzheimers or dementia is that most distant experiences and memories get magnified in terms of immediacy relative to those of recent times -- even to the point where in some cases there's a total loss of short term memory.

Part of it is also a "Hold on! It ain't over yet, we're not done with our tiff; so stop passing us by until it gets over first" mentality. Another part of it is that when you have sufficient time-depth then you're cured of the "stuck in the present" temporal myopia of those who haven't been around long enough to know the full context of where they are. That part, unlike the other two, is a valid point and concern. And if that's where he's coming from he could reply to your "'Back in the Day...' again? Gimme a break with that" by "If you weren't born too late to have a clue then you'd know that that 'Day' ain't over yet."

The real question is: do you think you're immune? Some signposts -- being stuck on any one year; fad or trend; or zeitgeist -- no matter how recent.

I'm thinking of like the women in the '80's who'd go like "You'd never catch me dead wearing a skirt that short" and then along come the '90's they're still saying the same thing while their younger counterparts are going like "Yeah we know. Step aside gramma. You had your say, you had your day, now get out of our way." They in turn went like "You'd never catch me dead wearing pants that tight." Along comes the 2010's and they're still saying the same thing while their younger counterparts -- all in jeans so supertight that it looks like leg-paint (thank you very much) are going "go back to your Hillary rally. We're busy feeling the Bern... huh? He just endorsed WHO?! OH HELL NO HE DIDN'T!!"

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#588984

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 7:04:56 PM UTC-5, Rock Brentwood wrote:
> [... accidental posting of whole thing ...]

Oops. As I was going to say: which manner of speaking? The midlands are still heavily Anglo-Saxon while the more refined areas have The Norm -- as in the Queen's Norman-inspired Speech.

But as to reasons; much of this was discussed in the recently-late Toffler's Third Wave (sequel to Future Shock; prequel to the 1990 Powershift and 2006 Revolutionary Wealth) and the whole tidal surge of events that have washed over this world is nothing other than the very Third Wave described therein.

The chapter and section titles alone pretty much lay out the script. Chapter 22 "The Crack-Up of the Nation" -- the possibly soon-to-be-former UK being one of the main topics of discussion; and the about-to-be-former USSR another. Chapter 27 The Political Mausoleum with its sections Private Armies (by extremist groups; particularly religious extremists); The Messiah Complex ("is the illusion that we can somehow save ourselves by changing the man (or woman) on top") which played out in the US in 2008 and 2016 and the UK in 206; The Decisional Speedup and related Decisional Implosion that has paralysed legislatures there and elsewhere to the point of a near-complete shutdown; The Collapse of Consensus which was described not just as a complete polarization between political extremes but (as we see in 2016) a complete schism and breakup WITHIN each of the political wings. And of course there was also The World Web section after which the World Wide Web itself was named. The then-future emergence of Cyberspace as the primary manifestation of the Third Wave was the tacit theme of the book; among others.

Chapter 28 Twenty-First Century Democracy expanded on that latter feature a bit with the "Comining Superstruggle" we've seen emerge in the huge generational split in the US's primaries and exposed in the UK's brexit vote. It's safe to say that Second Wave and Third Wave are now largely along along Baby Boomer and Millennial lines; with those in between -- in between.

The BBC World News actually did a whole segment a few days ago essentially playing out Chapter 28's discussion of the forms of 21st century; by addressing the question of cyberdemocracy and government-by-plebiscite and in which the very need for representatives is partially or wholly by-passed. In keeping with the underlying these; of course; the BBC discussion was interactive since they have a Facebook page. That, in turn, pays indirect homage to the fact that it was Toffler who hosted one of the first then-experimental interactive media events long before reality TV or the like came about.

I laid out the follow expose of Toffler here, accessible by those on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/RockBrentwood/videos/vb.100000483800536/1460310457328400/?type=3&theater

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#588849

KCIR2 wrote:
> 
> A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals, a newspaper clipper extraordinaire he is the social conscience of America and involved with human rights in the UN as well as many other accolades as you know from Linguistics and also philosophy.
> 
> Its a timely book and so it touches on a lot of the events of today and concerns that people have.
> 
> So I am just going to briefly sum up my opinion to the questions raised.
> And I will use Israel as an example as you have done in the book.
> 
> Any God that was not there for Auschwitz, you don't need.


There would not be an Auschwitz without God. God created Auschwitz to
keep nature in balance. Just as God created Black Holes
to consume stars to keep the universe in balance. 



If you have too many stars...it causes a big bang.

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#588852

On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 1:18:14 PM UTC-7, KCIR2 wrote:
> A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals, a newspaper clipper extraordinaire he is the social conscience of America and involved with human rights in the UN as well as many other accolades as you know from Linguistics and also philosophy.
> 
> Its a timely book and so it touches on a lot of the events of today and concerns that people have.
> 
> So I am just going to briefly sum up my opinion to the questions raised.
> And I will use Israel as an example as you have done in the book.
> 
> Any God that was not there for Auschwitz, you don't need.
> 
> Any Allah that is not there at the public schools you routinely strafe in Palestine you don't need either.
> 
> Any World Cops that cannot make you pay fair market value for the land you are stealing from the Palestinians, we don't need. 
> 
> That means NATO.
> 
> The million UN resolutions gone unheeded have castrated the UN.
> 
> I would say we don't need that either but they have a lot of programs of humanitarian aid that work well.
> 
> If you want more of my commentary see the thread The System is Corrupt.

Chomsky is wrong about linguistics (there is no universal grammar in the brain) and he's wrong about everything else that he thinks he's an expert about, especially politics and society. The man is clueless and will soon be forgotten.

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#589099

On 7/12/2016 2:33 AM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 1:18:14 PM UTC-7, KCIR2 wrote:
>> A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals, a
>> newspaper clipper extraordinaire he is the social conscience of
>> America and involved with human rights in the UN as well as many
>> other accolades as you know from Linguistics and also philosophy.
>>

>> If you want more of my commentary see the thread The System is
>> Corrupt.
>
> Chomsky is wrong about linguistics (there is no universal grammar in
> the brain) and he's wrong about everything else that he thinks he's
> an expert about, especially politics and society. The man is clueless
> and will soon be forgotten.
>

It was sad to see him give a speech at a university here, all that old 
and tired dated stuff from the 60's. nothing new.  a big 'so what'  said 
I.

But many of the millenials were deeply impressed by his BS, having 
little real experience in the world.  Caused by internet, video games, 
and socialistic teachers says I.

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#588856

Well he probably won;t be forgotten since he has a huge following and is a dry speaker so it must be the content.

Not everyone can appreciate what he says though since as a dry speaker its difficult to know what he is saying unless you can really focus and have pictures to look at.

You don;t want to be his interviewer though because while he drones on you are like trying to somehow get a wedge into a miniature gap in his speaking but he never takes a breath so they just can;t get in there to try to get him onto a different question since his answer to the first one may just be the longest paragraph you ever heard.

How about 17 minutes Of Noam at an interview and he has committed his book to memory don;t forget.
So don;t go changing a line or a word or miss a comma when you are quoting him.
Getting on in years now

Him and David Suzuki are my new flankers since Grandma is going on holidays.

They are clearly not to be  to be messed with.
Climate change is real ok?

Now where I live it has been like moving to California so how can I complain about that?
Instead of having to move to California, California moved to Vancouver Island.
Unfortunately the housing prices went up to 20 million dollars which is a bit annoying.
Since I sold all my properties during my divorce before the boom.

At any rate without further adieu Noam Chomsky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lsEVlqts0

So why bring out the heavy hitters like Noam?

NATO.
What is to be the future of NATO and I am giving it thumbs down.
Any police force that cannot make Israel pay for the land it is stealing is not an actual police force then what are they football players?
Very expensive football players and hit men and thugs and criminal gangs and murderers and cowards who fly over and massacre people with the mother of all bombs when they are unarmed or attack their wedding with a drone on the other side of the world?

Will I help raise money to pay for NATO?

No I will not.
They lied about weapons of mass destruction and they will just f*ck you in the ass every time you turn around.

All I can say to them is stay away from our money.

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#588857

NATO sanctioned torture in Iraq, lied about weapons of mass destruction after turning a blind eye somehow to the findings of the UN weapons inspectors who combed the place with a fine toothed comb.
Then destroyed a few old scuds that they found in a shed.

Remember these people had suffered an embargo and a million people had died from that embargo thanks to George Sr. then they were searched, then attacked by a superpower?
WTF?

And you want us to support these thugs and not charge them with war crimes when they routinely opened fire on unarmed families in cars at checkpoints.

Not to mention all the other abuses of human rights.

And the total disregard for the law be that the world court, or even their own judicial system, such as teh supreme court, the just use military tribunal and they do not respect due process.
Do you know what that means Noam?
Maybe we need a lawyer on staff.

And maybe some real cops if we could ever find some.

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#588859

I've got it.

This is what we have to do.

Every real cop in the world today train a person right now, then as soon as you can give the word, all the cops become NATO and arrest these fucking criminals and we have our global police already.

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#588860

Refined...

All the union cops all the good cops out there and judges who believe in the law and freedom and justice for all, look at your police force in your hamlet an dpick one person to send to the new NATO as a cop.
THen hire a rookie you will get by with that and send that person to the new force.

ASAP report to the UN high command.

And then we will arrest all these fuckers who are not great in number but seem to think they are above the law.

The World court is just a court that upholds YOUR LAWS, that you as people fought and died for so you can have a house a family and a business without thugs ruining your life.

So to answer your question Barrack how can we live without nukes?
You start with a real police force.

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#588861

And if you can't, then all I can say, is may God, have mercy, on your souls.

Its not exactly a crossroads, its more like an overhead view of 24 hours of air traffic control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lsEVlqts0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vxOhd4qlnA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoG8V7ydPsE

I am not saying that I am not a pirate, I am just not a murderer.

And they shouldn't be either.
You want to duck and cover as you go shopping or hit the dirt while going for pizza?
That's your idea of living?

Exploding wedding cakes?

Where's your balls and your ability to organize when all you have to do is send your best cop to the UN high command form a force arrest the criminals.
Thats what you need to do.

The people themselves could not stop these criminals from invading a sovereign country and massacring its people.

Its do or die folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuN6gs0AJls

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#588863

HUTHUTHUTHUT lets GO.
I'm gonna give you brand new jet helicopters and all the high tech shit you can carry.

Robots grenades stun guns you name it.

But you gotta be good.

And no frickin advertising, on your uniforms.

Is that clear?

I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUUU.

Do we know how to do this?

Hell yeah, or should I say FUCK YEAH! 

We know the difference between those two right?

The Eiffel tower goes down in one of those simulations.

So then your top gun is going to the UN force to enforce UN resolutions.
What does that mean?

That means to enforce the law.
The law as determined by the member states of the UN that's the world of nations together as a group and working for peace.

Unarmed at present hence why thugs can muscle them around.

So if we send our best cop from every squad who would fit the bill, and then all the time just keep feeding a cop there and letting that one come home and do a term of duty for the world and get a bonus.
As well as your pay and the local station has to sponsor you because hey fuckwad is that a drone over your house too?
lol
LETS GO TEAM!
Don;t fall in the mud, this is your final hour is it not?
1 minute to midnight.

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#588865

Don't worry I got you some backup.

The new Group of Twenty (G20) forum of finance ministers and central bank governors was formally created at the September 25, 1999, meeting of the G7 Finance Ministers. It was created "as a new mechanism for informal dialogue in the framework of the Bretton Woods institutional system, to broaden the dialogue on key economic and financial policy issues among systemically significant economies and to promote cooperation to achieve stable and sustainable world growth that benefits all" (G7 1999). To launch the G20 at its first ministerial meeting in Berlin in December 1999, the G7 finance ministers were to invite "counterparts from a number of systemically important countries from regions around the world," as well as representative of the EU, IMF and World Bank.

So we have them all by the short and curlies there.

Then lets review briefly...
The UN
"Chapter I sets forth the purposes of the United Nations, including the important provisions of the maintenance of international peace and security.
Chapter II defines the criteria for membership in the United Nations.
Chapters III–XV, the bulk of the document, describe the organs and institutions of the UN and their respective powers.
Chapters XVI and Chapter XVII describe arrangements for integrating the UN with established international law.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Charter

So again we are not implementing a Nazi regime as you can see most countries in the world are members of the United Nations a body formed by the world to ensure peace and security in the world for its inhabitants.

So then murdering people is against the law I think we all know that.

The law is there the world court is there and this is not rocket science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_criminal_law

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#588866

It doesn't matter what the law says, it is the process the involvement and the free will decisions made by the people which need to be respected.
And in this world due to psychopathy the world needs special police since many of them are intelligent and completely without conscience.

So if you want to survive you need robo cops and they know that I know that and so they need to get motivated.
You know that as you see your leaders break the law you are expected to enforce it and have moral values.

Well together for your family and Abduls across the globe all you have to do is send your best guy there and pay his way if you have to raise the funds yourself.

He who pays has control over the situation on a local level.
Confucius say.

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#588867

Philosophically speaking...

The shit floats to the top when it is a sewer.

A conscience hampers good people but does not hamper a psychopath.

So then the world becomes a sewer.

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#588868

If I allow you to have a sponsor hat you will get shot in the head by disgruntled shoppers.

Where do you want to get shot?

Put one there and make it metal plate behind it.

Like on your back. 

You'll figure it out, you are the top guns!

When you roll we rock!

Make us proud.

Just think about those brand new jet helicopters and full on swat gear and paratrooper training and all the glory and expertise. The high tech robots and the backup.

How fast do you think your support team can be on site remotely with all the information you need that the Internet might provide?

All it takes is a piece of equipment supplied maybe by the generous people at the KGB.

What if, what if there WAS one good cop in the CIA.
Just saying. Suppose you found one imagine the high tech sh*t THAT guy could bring to the party.

Its your world people why sit and curse the darkness.

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#588870

So ok I saw the news yesterday the Sabine Women of Turkey have now been raped so whats next?

If the new world police that immediate force where you send your best cop, if they were allowed to wear a sponsor on their back, even with a metal plate, they would get shot there with armor piercing shells.

Why?
Otherwise Kellogg might take over the world. Imagine how crappy the cereal would be then.

Everywhere you look even looking at you suspiciously at the shopping mall hanging around the cereal isle intimidating people. Dropping a grenade picking it up and saying to you, "Did you just drop this?"
"Do you have an I.D.?"

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#588871

Ok so then lets suppose this is your first assignment after you arrest all those war criminals so then you hear that the White House is about to be attacked by what looks like a thousand 1 foot drones that are coming along the ground at 10 feet and refueling in the trees like humming birds.

We don't know what their payload is, the drones no doubt all wiped, no prints, and anonymous made from generic parts.

Good Lu

Pre programmed anonymous avengers.

Made by the same people who make viruses lets say so those are a lot of people.

So at first the attacks are funny, and they drop a stink bomb.

Then the world changed.

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#588872

What are you going to do when just a hundred little drones, you know quad copters fly into a stadium right up to the stage or podium during an election or rally and use rapid fire 22 shells and all fire at the people on the stage?

And these things of course made from anything.

And only a hundred of them.

Unstoppable if they come in quick and just take one shot you haven't got a hope in hell.
Especially if they create a diversion and have streaming smoke so it looks like part of the show then look out its the Joker.

And buh bye leaders who in the minds of whoever maybe whoever has 25,000 bucks I mean how much could it cost?

Even for 10?

You see so once that is in your culture well now what? You started it.

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