Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky

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Date	2016-07-12 17:26 -0700
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Subject	Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky
From	Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com>

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On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 7:04:56 PM UTC-5, Rock Brentwood wrote:
> [... accidental posting of whole thing ...]

Oops. As I was going to say: which manner of speaking? The midlands are still heavily Anglo-Saxon while the more refined areas have The Norm -- as in the Queen's Norman-inspired Speech.

But as to reasons; much of this was discussed in the recently-late Toffler's Third Wave (sequel to Future Shock; prequel to the 1990 Powershift and 2006 Revolutionary Wealth) and the whole tidal surge of events that have washed over this world is nothing other than the very Third Wave described therein.

The chapter and section titles alone pretty much lay out the script. Chapter 22 "The Crack-Up of the Nation" -- the possibly soon-to-be-former UK being one of the main topics of discussion; and the about-to-be-former USSR another. Chapter 27 The Political Mausoleum with its sections Private Armies (by extremist groups; particularly religious extremists); The Messiah Complex ("is the illusion that we can somehow save ourselves by changing the man (or woman) on top") which played out in the US in 2008 and 2016 and the UK in 206; The Decisional Speedup and related Decisional Implosion that has paralysed legislatures there and elsewhere to the point of a near-complete shutdown; The Collapse of Consensus which was described not just as a complete polarization between political extremes but (as we see in 2016) a complete schism and breakup WITHIN each of the political wings. And of course there was also The World Web section after which the World Wide Web itself was named. The then-future emergence of Cyberspace as the primary manifestation of the Third Wave was the tacit theme of the book; among others.

Chapter 28 Twenty-First Century Democracy expanded on that latter feature a bit with the "Comining Superstruggle" we've seen emerge in the huge generational split in the US's primaries and exposed in the UK's brexit vote. It's safe to say that Second Wave and Third Wave are now largely along along Baby Boomer and Millennial lines; with those in between -- in between.

The BBC World News actually did a whole segment a few days ago essentially playing out Chapter 28's discussion of the forms of 21st century; by addressing the question of cyberdemocracy and government-by-plebiscite and in which the very need for representatives is partially or wholly by-passed. In keeping with the underlying these; of course; the BBC discussion was interactive since they have a Facebook page. That, in turn, pays indirect homage to the fact that it was Toffler who hosted one of the first then-experimental interactive media events long before reality TV or the like came about.

I laid out the follow expose of Toffler here, accessible by those on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/RockBrentwood/videos/vb.100000483800536/1460310457328400/?type=3&theater

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