Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky

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Date	2016-07-12 17:04 -0700
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Subject	Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky
From	Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com>

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On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 3:37:06 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote:
> On 7/11/2016 3:18 PM, KCIR2 wrote:
> > A new book by one of America's most brilliant intellectuals,
> no, Noam Chumpsky, that guy is a burned out hippy proffessor from the 
> 70's, still fighting the military-industrial complex.  I saw him speek a 
> few years back, and he is totally retro, stuck in the 70's.   But todays 
> youths, with no knowledge of communiusm/socialism think what he say is 
> cool, but it is the politics of envy.

A lot of the Culture War partisans are or have got that way; apparently not noticing that this is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CENTURY (HELLO?!) Ahem ... must regain composure. As I was saying it might be partly related to the fact that one of the early signs of Alzheimers or dementia is that most distant experiences and memories get magnified in terms of immediacy relative to those of recent times -- even to the point where in some cases there's a total loss of short term memory.

Part of it is also a "Hold on! It ain't over yet, we're not done with our tiff; so stop passing us by until it gets over first" mentality. Another part of it is that when you have sufficient time-depth then you're cured of the "stuck in the present" temporal myopia of those who haven't been around long enough to know the full context of where they are. That part, unlike the other two, is a valid point and concern. And if that's where he's coming from he could reply to your "'Back in the Day...' again? Gimme a break with that" by "If you weren't born too late to have a clue then you'd know that that 'Day' ain't over yet."

The real question is: do you think you're immune? Some signposts -- being stuck on any one year; fad or trend; or zeitgeist -- no matter how recent.

I'm thinking of like the women in the '80's who'd go like "You'd never catch me dead wearing a skirt that short" and then along come the '90's they're still saying the same thing while their younger counterparts are going like "Yeah we know. Step aside gramma. You had your say, you had your day, now get out of our way." They in turn went like "You'd never catch me dead wearing pants that tight." Along comes the 2010's and they're still saying the same thing while their younger counterparts -- all in jeans so supertight that it looks like leg-paint (thank you very much) are going "go back to your Hillary rally. We're busy feeling the Bern... huh? He just endorsed WHO?! OH HELL NO HE DIDN'T!!"

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Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky KCIR2 <rick_s7777777@yahoo.ca> - 2016-07-11 13:18 -0700
  Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-11 15:36 -0500
    Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2016-07-12 17:04 -0700
      Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2016-07-12 17:26 -0700
  Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-11 23:40 -0700
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    Re: Who Rules the World by Noam Chomsky Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-13 14:53 -0500
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