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How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

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#583353 — Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 08:16 -0700
Subject	Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<87f3bb29-6d41-4998-a634-1e31806b7296@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583308

zatsO?  didn't notice, but it'd be cOOl,
if that fOOl would try to answer any thing ... and
t also applie to Your upnesS, a.p ... and
to waM Sormely, the no-commentarY Guy

> each reader took a few seconds to report the first post in each McGinn thread as Google spam, they too will be rid of the pest.
> >
> 
> 
>    Poor AP fails to understand that USENET is entirely independent of
>    Google. Google Groups is just one of hundreds of ways to interact
>    with USENET. It is a pity that you can't do better than Google Groups.
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

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#583362 — Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 10:40 -0500
Subject	Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<nj45h2$qki$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#583255

On 6/5/2016 11:44 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> So at the moment the hog McGinn has 27 front page posts, and which I see not a single one
> since I reported them as spam. All 27 are hidden from view. If each reader took a few seconds
> to report the first post in each McGinn thread as Google spam, they too will be rid of the pest.
>

What about all those people (like me) who don't use Google Groups to 
view sci.physics? Hmmm? Oh, that's right, we have a much simpler way to 
do it.

While we're at it, what about all those people who read about geothermal 
but not from Scientific American and Science magazine or PBS on the TV?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#583307 — Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 07:57 -0500
Subject	Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<zIednVuyHPyw7sjKnZ2dnUU7-cGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#583191

On 6/5/16 4:49 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> A normal operating science newsgroup is sci.math, where the Google oversight has posts hidden because the author abuses sci.math.
>

   Poor AP fail to understand that USENET is entirely independent of
   Google. Google Groups is just one of hundreds of ways to interact
   with USENET. It is a pity that you can't do better than Google groups.

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#583425 — engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 14:49 -0700
Subject	engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<04bbf083-5ecb-4587-9ac7-3ca406d439c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583015

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 9:45:12 PM UTC-5, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 7:19:09 PM UTC-7, Wally W. wrote:
> > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:47:35 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > 
> > >sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > >to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > >community, and physics-related social issues.
> > 
> > Why would anyone feel a need post an excuse for their posting habits
> > as a sig?
> > 

Hi Ross,

It was recognized in 1993 what spam was, but it was not recognized in 1993 of people who try to dominate the front page of a newsgroup. There was the advertisement of "solutions manuals" which for a short time was front page hogging.

We appall censorship, and we expect for ourselves to have freedom of speech and ignore and do not read posts that upset us.

But, Ross, you can accept the idea that front page hoggers are censors. That their behaviour is that of censorship. They intend to knock other posters off the front page so that having your post buried in 15 minutes after sending, is a form of censorship. Front page hogs like Wormley and AS and JMcginn censor away the posts of others by knocking those posts to a page that most onlookers and newcomers seldom look.

Front page hogging is censorship because their aim is not science discussion but rather domination of front page.

So, Google needs a means of throttling or thwarting those that desire to dominate the front page rather than want to do genuine science discussion.

Sci.math used to have a front page hogs of WM and JG but now they are under some control by "flagged for abuse" and other persuasions. Here in sci.physics, is still a primitive third world country forum of bad behavior of front page hogging. We do not need a Wormley cut paste of science news, we can do that ourselves. And we do not want a McGinn constant repeat of his nonsense beliefs which 1 or 2 posts a day is enough of that nonsense, not 25 posts each and every day hogging the front page.

Sad to say that the PV with his mistaken view of special relativity, is a better behaved poster than is McGinn, Wormley, AS who are a direct threat to all posters by bumping and knocking you off the front page-- call it Wormley censorship of sci.physics. If Wormley does not like a posters recent thread, then out comes 25 new cut and paste crap from Wormley to bump your post over into a far away page.

So, front page hogging is a form of censorship. And the way I deal with it is to report these abusers to Google, and even if Google does nothing, at least I see the forum with mostly "blocked from view since you reported this as abuse with 29 other threads".

It takes but a few seconds to report a thread for abuse, and if a lot of other people do the same, then the hogs will be looked at by Google to either stop or change behaviour, or Google could engineer software that does not allow a poster to have more than 2 threads in the first 50 threads on the newsboard.

I would like Google to engineer software that prevents front page hogging because in the future, such software is wanted and needed.

AP

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#583447 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 20:46 -0500
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<kOedndTH34z7usvKnZ2dnUU7-fkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to	#583425

On 6/6/16 4:49 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> It was recognized in 1993 what spam was, but it was not recognized in 1993 of people who try to dominate the front page of a newsgroup. There was the advertisement of "solutions manuals" which for a short time was front page hogging.


   Poor AP is the victim of what he calls "Front Page Hogs", which is
   nothing more than an artifact of his interfacing with USENET without
   a news reader. His obsession is consuming more and more of his
   resources.  Pity.



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#583450 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date	2016-06-06 20:56 -0500
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<nj59k6$ju7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#583447

On 6/6/2016 8:46 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 6/6/16 4:49 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>> It was recognized in 1993 what spam was, but it was not recognized in
>> 1993 of people who try to dominate the front page of a newsgroup.
>> There was the advertisement of "solutions manuals" which for a short
>> time was front page hogging.
>
>
>   Poor AP is the victim of what he calls "Front Page Hogs", which is
>   nothing more than an artifact of his interfacing with USENET without
>   a news reader. His obsession is consuming more and more of his
>   resources.  Pity.
>
>
>

I can not imagine what it would like to see James McGinn,
	"Mr. Dehydrated Water Vapor",
	    Hater of Science

see his face on all those flipping posts, Troll Absurdist


anyhow, AP,  I use free Mozilla Thunderbird, and have it set to text, so 
no annoying photos of raving lunatics...

AND you can block them easily, plonk the idiots, and the world is a 
safer place, honest

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#583472 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 20:14 -0700
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<d663ebc6-08b1-4acf-b81c-ea46346b507f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583425

On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 2:49:20 PM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 9:45:12 PM UTC-5, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 7:19:09 PM UTC-7, Wally W. wrote:
> > > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:47:35 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > 
> > > >sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > >to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > >community, and physics-related social issues.
> > > 
> > > Why would anyone feel a need post an excuse for their posting habits
> > > as a sig?
> > > 
> 
> Hi Ross,
> 
> It was recognized in 1993 what spam was, but it was not recognized in 1993 of people who try to dominate the front page of a newsgroup. There was the advertisement of "solutions manuals" which for a short time was front page hogging.
> 
> We appall censorship, and we expect for ourselves to have freedom of speech and ignore and do not read posts that upset us.
> 
> But, Ross, you can accept the idea that front page hoggers are censors. That their behaviour is that of censorship. They intend to knock other posters off the front page so that having your post buried in 15 minutes after sending, is a form of censorship. Front page hogs like Wormley and AS and JMcginn censor away the posts of others by knocking those posts to a page that most onlookers and newcomers seldom look.
> 
> Front page hogging is censorship because their aim is not science discussion but rather domination of front page.
> 
> So, Google needs a means of throttling or thwarting those that desire to dominate the front page rather than want to do genuine science discussion.
> 
> Sci.math used to have a front page hogs of WM and JG but now they are under some control by "flagged for abuse" and other persuasions. Here in sci.physics, is still a primitive third world country forum of bad behavior of front page hogging. We do not need a Wormley cut paste of science news, we can do that ourselves. And we do not want a McGinn constant repeat of his nonsense beliefs which 1 or 2 posts a day is enough of that nonsense, not 25 posts each and every day hogging the front page.
> 
> Sad to say that the PV with his mistaken view of special relativity, is a better behaved poster than is McGinn, Wormley, AS who are a direct threat to all posters by bumping and knocking you off the front page-- call it Wormley censorship of sci.physics. If Wormley does not like a posters recent thread, then out comes 25 new cut and paste crap from Wormley to bump your post over into a far away page.
> 
> So, front page hogging is a form of censorship. And the way I deal with it is to report these abusers to Google, and even if Google does nothing, at least I see the forum with mostly "blocked from view since you reported this as abuse with 29 other threads".
> 
> It takes but a few seconds to report a thread for abuse, and if a lot of other people do the same, then the hogs will be looked at by Google to either stop or change behaviour, or Google could engineer software that does not allow a poster to have more than 2 threads in the first 50 threads on the newsboard.
> 
> I would like Google to engineer software that prevents front page hogging because in the future, such software is wanted and needed.
> 
> AP

You're looking for technology the solution to technology the problem.  

The benefits of a free forum include the moral superiority (for 
freedom-loving types) of letting those with whom you disagree 
have a view.  

That's because your views or means or your mores are somehow 
so superior that they will win out in the manners of consensus 
even when hogs and hog dogs spew their trough.  

When I hear people take the fascist view I hate them and find 
them inferior and they disgust me.  (And they're sick and rotten.)

Because, as a conscientious mathematician, I don't care if I'm 
right or wrong, there is right or wrong.

So, the easiest way to douse the souse is ignore them.  Because, 
I refuse those who would cut others their views and those who find it 
easiest to use idiots to drive acceptance of their (lack of) views.
I refuse and reject and resent and resist that kind of degradation.

It's not so much that I'm any traditionally or epochally disenfranchised 
class, on the contrary, I come from long lines of dead white males, 
but really it's a matter of the moral and ethical superiority of the 
conscientious scientist that hogs and dogs get their say (if not 
their day).

If you really want to make the front page, then point out some real 
contribution to the way of the conscientious scientist, where as well
some have the zeal of the individual libertarian and as against the 
hegemony of like-minded fools.

For example, the other day we were talking about some fellow who 
had derived Lienard Wiechert or along those lines, in a brave new 
way.  That's the kind of guy who deserves accolades, prizes, and 
fetes.  That's a hard work-a-day engineer who remarked on a novel 
derivation _that is fundamental, proper, and more correct than the 
course of the day_.

So, carry on, but, treat hog dogs with the contempt (and lack 
thereof) they don't deserve.  Just because they abuse publishing 
from their anonymity or pipe-hole, don't join them.  And, refuse 
the dirty work of others.

It's upon you to revive your spirit of purpose of your work(s).
The spirit belongs to it, not us.

Get some.

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#583497 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 23:13 -0700
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<598f27e6-9570-4b28-b2ae-477e1cd51d57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583472

On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 10:14:57 PM UTC-5, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:

Trouble with your method Ross, is that it denies the existence of abuse and abusers. Should we ignore criminals, because ignoring is the easiest route. With any freedom, freedom of speech requires work and effort that some do not deny or harm the freedom of others.

Front Page Hogs harm the freedom of speech of other posters, by shoving their post into far off pages in the matter of minutes after sending the post. So it is not a question of content, but a question of fairness to all posters.

If you had a bulletin board where you posted a message, and a hog comes along and posts a message over yours, then you have been cheated. When you have front page hogs, your 3 posts per day are cheated by the hogs 100 posts. Not that the hogs are doing science, no, they are here to throw you out of the first pages.

It took me only 5 minutes to report as abuse to Google of McGinn hogging tonight, 20 McGinn hog posts and a few Wormley.

AP

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#583505 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-06 23:56 -0700
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<42b2b8a1-f736-485c-ad05-558c41742645@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583497

On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 11:13:20 PM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 10:14:57 PM UTC-5, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> 
> Trouble with your method Ross, is that it denies the existence of abuse and abusers. Should we ignore criminals, because ignoring is the easiest route. With any freedom, freedom of speech requires work and effort that some do not deny or harm the freedom of others.
> 
> Front Page Hogs harm the freedom of speech of other posters, by shoving their post into far off pages in the matter of minutes after sending the post. So it is not a question of content, but a question of fairness to all posters.
> 
> If you had a bulletin board where you posted a message, and a hog comes along and posts a message over yours, then you have been cheated. When you have front page hogs, your 3 posts per day are cheated by the hogs 100 posts. Not that the hogs are doing science, no, they are here to throw you out of the first pages.
> 
> It took me only 5 minutes to report as abuse to Google of McGinn hogging tonight, 20 McGinn hog posts and a few Wormley.
> 
> AP

Maybe instead you should expect that what you write 
is the permanent and you should endeavor to fill 
your content with that which people will seek and 
find.

If you're not going to ignore then smite.  Your abuse 
of the abuse mechanism is hypocrisy and a puny effort 
that "quiet desperation is the English way", those 
gank limey swine.  Don't succumb to hypocrisy or the 
Green Knight will have no reason to spare you.  Equating 
their perfidy in fair communication with crime is a 
disservice to those who depend on the law to protect 
people, not prosecute them.

All our laws start with protecting people from the 
government, not the other way around.

Take your crackers back to Portsmouth you redcoat filth.

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#583525 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-07 07:04 -0500
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<nj6d87$9r0$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#583497

On 6/7/2016 1:13 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Trouble with your method Ross, is that it denies the existence of abuse and abusers. Should we ignore
> criminals, because ignoring is the easiest route. With any freedom, freedom of speech requires work
> and effort that some do not deny or harm the freedom of others.

Hold on there, pal. A criminal, by definition, is someone who breaks a 
law that is on the books. Someone who does something you find irritating 
but who has not broken any law is not a criminal. You need to learn how 
to deal better with irritations rather than demonizing them.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#583647 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date	2016-06-07 14:37 -0500
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<19uhr4qhvngqx.n9rewm9tv83h$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to	#583525

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:04:25 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> Someone who does something you find irritating 
> but who has not broken any law is not a criminal. You need to learn how 
> to deal better with irritations rather than demonizing them.

What a stupid remark. 

I don't even feel like explaining this to you :)
--
    "Fervor is the weapon of choice for the 
     impotent."
                          - Frantz Fanon

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#583550 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-07 09:14 -0500
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<bvKdnTXsEK5FS8vKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#583497

On 6/7/16 1:13 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Trouble with your method Ross, is that it denies the existence of abuse and abusers. Should we ignore criminals, because ignoring is the easiest route. With any freedom, freedom of speech requires work and effort that some do not deny or harm the freedom of others.


   You might be happier participating in a moderated newsgroup,
   assuming that they would let you participate, AP.


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#583560 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date	2016-06-07 14:54 +0000
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<nj6n78$pmt$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to	#583425

Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:

>But, Ross, you can accept the idea that front page hoggers are censors. 
>That their behaviour is that of censorship. They intend to knock other 
>posters off the front page so that having your post buried in 15 minutes 
>after sending, is a form of censorship. Front page hogs like Wormley and AS 
>and JMcginn censor away the posts of others by knocking those posts to a 
>page that most onlookers and newcomers seldom look.

>Front page hogging is censorship because their aim is not science 
>discussion but rather domination of front page.

What you call "front page hogging" is merely a function of using Google
Groups and how they order posts and their lack of a killfile. If you don't
like how Google Groups displays Usenet, why not use something better? There
are plenty of newsreaders out there.  You were a user of Usenet long before
Google even existed, so you must know this.

I have no "front page" issue. New posts show up at the end for me. I have
McGinn killfiled so as far as I am concerned, he simply doesn't exist.

>So, Google needs a means of throttling or thwarting those that desire to 
>dominate the front page rather than want to do genuine science discussion.

Google has no control over Usenet, other than how it displays it to those
who use their (broken) services to read it.

>I would like Google to engineer software that prevents front page hogging 
>because in the future, such software is wanted and needed.

It is up to Google how they display Usenet.  If the past is any prediction,
don't expect them to ever improve how they display Usenet.  And again, they
do not control Usenet.

I ask again, if you don't like how Google displays Usenet, why do you still
use Google? Especially since I know you know of non-Google Usenet software.

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#583564 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-07 10:11 -0500
Subject	Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse
Message-ID	<nj6o7i$u18$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#583560

On 6/7/2016 9:54 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> But, Ross, you can accept the idea that front page hoggers are censors.
>> That their behaviour is that of censorship. They intend to knock other
>> posters off the front page so that having your post buried in 15 minutes
>> after sending, is a form of censorship. Front page hogs like Wormley and AS
>> and JMcginn censor away the posts of others by knocking those posts to a
>> page that most onlookers and newcomers seldom look.
>
>> Front page hogging is censorship because their aim is not science
>> discussion but rather domination of front page.
>
> What you call "front page hogging" is merely a function of using Google
> Groups and how they order posts and their lack of a killfile. If you don't
> like how Google Groups displays Usenet, why not use something better? There
> are plenty of newsreaders out there.  You were a user of Usenet long before
> Google even existed, so you must know this.
>
> I have no "front page" issue. New posts show up at the end for me. I have
> McGinn killfiled so as far as I am concerned, he simply doesn't exist.
>
>> So, Google needs a means of throttling or thwarting those that desire to
>> dominate the front page rather than want to do genuine science discussion.
>
> Google has no control over Usenet, other than how it displays it to those
> who use their (broken) services to read it.
>
>> I would like Google to engineer software that prevents front page hogging
>> because in the future, such software is wanted and needed.
>
> It is up to Google how they display Usenet.  If the past is any prediction,
> don't expect them to ever improve how they display Usenet.  And again, they
> do not control Usenet.
>
> I ask again, if you don't like how Google displays Usenet, why do you still
> use Google? Especially since I know you know of non-Google Usenet software.
>

Archimedes does not want to consider other tools because, frankly, he 
has difficulty learning them. He has only Google, Google Groups, a few 
selected TV channels, and a few selected science magazines he reads. 
Anything outside of those channels is invisible to him. However, he is 
egocentric enough to complain that if a subject of interest doesn't 
appear in his selected magazines or TV shows, then they are at fault for 
that. He is also egocentric enough to believe that if a tool he is using 
irritates him, then the maker of the tool should correct that so the 
source of the irritation is removed. He also thinks that any activity 
that is irritating to him is in fact criminal.

Archimedes cannot be reasoned with because he is, deep down, not really 
rational. Deep down, he knows he has problems, but he just doesn't want 
anybody else reminding him of that.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#583607 — English as a post-secondary lingual

From	noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-07 10:52 -0700
Subject	English as a post-secondary lingual
Message-ID	<d40d84e6-9da9-4fdf-a58d-ec08f27f973b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583564

I only use dumbterminals, although I might be able
to jiggle the gOOgleplEx front-end.  of course,
a.p has "hogged hte fronpage on many occaisons, and
no-one can ever comprehend his typing (or, his English

> Archimedes does not want to consider other tools because, frankly, he 
> has difficulty learning them. He has only Google, Google Groups, a few 
> selected TV channels, and a few selected science magazines he reads. 
> Anything outside of those channels is invisible to him. However, he is 
> egocentric enough to complain that if a subject of interest doesn't 
> appear in his selected magazines or TV shows, then they are at fault for 
> that. He is also egocentric enough to believe that if a tool he is using 
> irritates him, then the maker of the tool should correct that so the 
> source of the irritation is removed. He also thinks that any activity 
> that is irritating to him is in fact criminal.

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#582992

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 20:45 -0500
Message-ID	<1pydnXEeP6mlGc7KnZ2dnUU7-QcAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to	#582963

On 6/4/16 6:39 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> When I first started using the Google spam report, I reported on Jim McGinn's latest post. Trouble with that is that it still kept clogging up the front page with McGinn's hideous picture logo and saturating the front page. So I quickly learned that you had to knock out McGinn's first post so that it hides the entire thread thereafter. Now, what I see on the front page is one "hidden from view with some 39 other Mcginn nonsense posts" and I had to do the same with Sam Wormley who is not a science person but rather a Front Page Hog.
>
> So, at this moment I have sci.physics free and clear of front page hogs using Google's abuse report.
>
> So, it takes but a few seconds on each abuse post to relegate that post and thread to oblivion.
>
> AP
>


   Hey AP, you seem obsessed by posting statistics. They are what they
   are and nothing more.
 > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/sci.physics


-- 

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

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#584319

From	Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
Date	2016-06-11 07:29 -0400
Message-ID	<98951b425fe6ae12535d4fcd94c7d51e@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
In reply to	#582992

In article <1pydnXEeP6mlGc7KnZ2dnUU7-QcAAAAA@giganews.com>
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> ....
>    Hey AP, you seem obsessed by posting statistics. They are what they
>    are and nothing more.
>  > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/sci.physics

I just went to that link on the Tor browser and I got all of these 
demands for allowing Javascript:

Um Google Groups Discussions nutzen zu können, aktivieren Sie 
JavaScript in Ihren Browsereinstellungen und aktualisieren Sie dann 
diese Seite.
https://groups.google.com/forum/www.gstatic.com
https://groups.google.com/forum/og.og.en_US.BbpaVHqxG0g.O
https://groups.google.com/forum/.64.40.36.36.40.36.36.
https://groups.google.com/forum/r_qf.
https://groups.google.com/forum/og.og.-wbi5d6ov1wqq.L.F4.O
https://apis.google.com/
https://groups.google.com/forum/es_plusone_gc_20160519.0_p0
https://groups.google.com/forum/gci_91f30755d6a6b787dcc2a4062e6e982
4.js
https://groups.google.com/d/homeredir?hl=de&tab=gg
https://groups.google.com/forum/
https://groups.google.com/g;Ea=/
https://groups.google.com/g;Fa=/
https://groups.google.com/forum/.split(
https://groups.google.com/
https://groups.google.com/forum/.charAt(a)%7Dfor(var
https://groups.google.com/forum/1.9.1
https://groups.google.com/forum/gbar_._DumpException
https://groups.google.com/forum/og.
https://www.google.com/gen_204?
https:///
https://groups.google.com/forum/og/_/js
https://groups.google.com/forum/og/_/ss
https://groups.google.com/forum/?host=www.gstatic.com&bust=
https://groups.google.com/exm=
https://groups.google.com/d=1/ed=1
https://groups.google.com/rs=
https://groups.google.com/forum/text/javascript
https://groups.google.com/excm=
https://groups.google.com/forum/text/css
https://groups.google.com/forum/gbar.ldb

That's a whole lotta script the Google Groups users are allowing. I 
passed on it.

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#584392 — ka-ching

From	noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-11 14:59 -0700
Subject	ka-ching
Message-ID	<35565667-02e7-423a-b315-3f9d96a53b36@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#584319

oops; sorry

> Um Google Groups Discussions nutzen zu können, aktivieren Sie 
> JavaScript in Ihren Browsereinstellungen und aktualisieren Sie dann 
> diese Seite.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/www.gstatic.com
> https://groups.google.com/forum/og.og.en_US.BbpaVHqxG0g.O
> https://groups.google.com/forum/.64.40.36.36.40.36.36.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/r_qf.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/og.og.-wbi5d6ov1wqq.L.F4.O
> https://apis.google.com/
> https://groups.google.com/forum/es_plusone_gc_20160519.0_p0
> https://groups.google.com/forum/gci_91f30755d6a6b787dcc2a4062e6e982
> 4.js
> https://groups.google.com/d/homeredir?hl=de&tab=gg
> https://groups.google.com/forum/
> https://groups.google.com/g;Ea=/
> https://groups.google.com/g;Fa=/
> https://groups.google.com/forum/.split(
> https://groups.google.com/
> https://groups.google.com/forum/.charAt(a)%7Dfor(var
> https://groups.google.com/forum/1.9.1
> https://groups.google.com/forum/gbar_._DumpException
> https://groups.google.com/forum/og.
> https://www.google.com/gen_204?
> https:///
> https://groups.google.com/forum/og/_/js
> https://groups.google.com/forum/og/_/ss
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?host=www.gstatic.com&bust=
> https://groups.google.com/exm=
> https://groups.google.com/d=1/ed=1
> https://groups.google.com/rs=
> https://groups.google.com/forum/text/javascript
> https://groups.google.com/excm=
> https://groups.google.com/forum/text/css
> https://groups.google.com/forum/gbar.ldb
> 
> That's a whole lotta script the Google Groups users are allowing. I 
> passed on it.

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#583481

From	Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org>
Date	2016-06-07 06:43 +0200
Message-ID	<cbf7f5de06b922ae3e51d46496b26da4@hoi-polloi.org>
In reply to	#582963

On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:39:07 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
> When I first started using the Google spam report, I reported on Jim McGinn's latest post. Trouble with that is that it still kept clogging up the front page with McGinn's hideous picture logo and saturating the front page. So I quickly learned that you had to knock out McGinn's first post so that it hides the entire thread thereafter. Now, what I see on the front page is one "hidden from view with some 39 other Mcginn nonsense posts" and I had to do the same with Sam Wormley who is not a science person but rather a Front Page Hog.
>
> So, at this moment I have sci.physics free and clear of front page hogs using Google's abuse report.
>
> So, it takes but a few seconds on each abuse post to relegate that post and thread to oblivion.

Fuck Google Groups, and the cranks that post from it.

And Wormley is posting good information, unlike certain cranks I 
can mention.

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#584105

From	noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-09 11:44 -0700
Message-ID	<f9c7c3ec-26bd-414a-9c42-1cf1afa9ba22@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#583481

why, does he post the same ****,
in several versions, before any comment is even made;
I want to read some of them, but
I don't want to encourage his ka-ching

> And Wormley is posting good information, unlike certain cranks I 
> can mention.

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#583353 — Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583362 — Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583307 — Re: include AS Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583425 — engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583447 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583450 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583472 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583497 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583505 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583525 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583647 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583550 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583560 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583564 — Re: engineer software that prevents front page hogging Re: How to handle the J. Mcginn and S. Wormley front page hogs-- report as Google spam abuse

#583607 — English as a post-secondary lingual

#582992

#584319

#584392 — ka-ching

#583481

#584105