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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-08 10:21 -0800 |
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9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:21 -0800
9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:02 -0800
9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:16 -0800
9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:44 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-08 20:21 +0000
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:31 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-08 20:53 +0000
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 23:00 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 06:51 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 12:11 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 17:36 +0000
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 10:34 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 19:45 +0000
hoo-yoo noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 19:22 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:53 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:01 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-08 21:43 +0000
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 14:00 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 14:09 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:34 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:37 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 17:22 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 02:31 +0000
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 19:05 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 19:32 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:25 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 06:42 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:05 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 07:08 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:27 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:19 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:32 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 14:57 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 23:04 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 03:46 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:35 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:37 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 21:45 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 23:27 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 23:42 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 09:40 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 03:07 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 12:10 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 09:31 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 09:57 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:46 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:23 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 05:44 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:49 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 05:57 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:15 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:24 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:19 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 06:50 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:57 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:19 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:22 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:41 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-11 16:04 +0000
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:25 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:08 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 09:16 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 01:17 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 13:55 -0500
march first noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 12:11 -0700
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:22 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 12:49 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:39 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:30 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 12:13 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 07:11 -0800
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 12:14 -0500
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:17 -0600
Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:36 -0600
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-08 18:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbnr79$jrh$8@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #560468 |
On 3/8/2016 2:31 PM, john wrote: > Didn't watch, Micky? > Not surprised. > Bush > Cheney > Haldeman > You can hang Haldeman if you want. You'll have to dig him up first, though. Do it at night. Cheney is 75 and has a bad ticker. Why not just take him hunting and fire your gun off behind his back? That way it'll be an unfortunate accident. As for Bush, I thought you believed in the sanctity of animal life? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-08 17:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <73102beb-bd68-4ef8-aa6f-fb7ece931492@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560573 |
:) I could get to like you, Odd. She was examined by many professionals and found saner than you or me. You might want to listen to her speak and form your own opinion- you obviously didn't.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 02:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nbo1tc$6nl$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #560588 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >She was examined by many professionals >and found saner than you or me. So, you're saying that someone found mentally incompetent to stand trial is saner than you? Why do I find that so believeable? (first couple of minutes - she seem pretty ditzy. 90 minutes? Maybe later.)
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-08 19:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c7921069-cdfe-4697-8c06-ee98f5094f85@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560607 |
She's way fucking smarter than you, Mickey. Buy her book. Self-published, with TONS of affidavits and sources.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-08 19:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <76bcd204-15ff-458b-be01-992939211a94@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560610 |
It's actually standard protocol with the Military-Mafia Complex that when a wife can no longer be controlled, they have her certified. Nobody pays attention to someone who has been declared crazy. Nice government you have there.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 08:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbpbnh$nk7$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #560622 |
On 3/8/2016 9:32 PM, john wrote: > It's actually standard protocol with > the Military-Mafia Complex that when > a wife can no longer be controlled, > they have her certified. > Nobody pays attention to someone who > has been declared crazy. > Nice government you have there. > Military-Mafia Complex? Is that run by the Trilateral Commission? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 06:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fbeabc80-671e-4d4a-81df-313b8a7b11d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560742 |
They run you, Odd. And they run guns. And that's why there will always be war, until you grow a backbone
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 09:05 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbpe40$rv6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #560744 |
On 3/9/2016 8:42 AM, john wrote: > They run you, Odd. Really? How so? How do they run you? > And they run guns. Well that I believe. > And that's why there will always be > war, until you grow a backbone > You think that eliminating gun running and weapon sales will eliminate war? Really? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 07:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <43c0d4f6-cb20-458b-b6ef-72be5d2b866c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560753 |
You didn't watch that video. Iraq was totally offering everything for peace- but then the gun-runners would have been cut out of hundreds of billions.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 09:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbpfdb$u9h$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #560755 |
On 3/9/2016 9:08 AM, john wrote: > You didn't watch that video. > Iraq was totally offering everything for > peace- According to a woman who was not mentally fit to stand trial. Has it ever occurred to you to NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAYS until you have INDEPENDENT verification of the same claim? > but then the gun-runners would > have been cut out of hundreds of > billions. > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 08:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fbe1aacc-0adc-4216-926c-84c7bf41bf34@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560763 |
It's standard procedure to have women that the cabal can't control declared mentally incompetent
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 11:32 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbpmno$1bq9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #560781 |
On 3/9/2016 10:19 AM, john wrote: > It's standard procedure to have women > that the cabal can't control declared > mentally incompetent > There's always a conspiracy-theory "standard procedure" that's aimed to falsely discredit. So if someone says something that is "secret" and "revealed for the first time" and there is no supporting evidence that what they say is true, and furthermore there is evidence that what they are saying is nonsense, then either: 1. They are in fact nuts or lying. 2. They are telling the truth, but that all supporting evidence is suppressed and the discrediting evidence is manufactured by The Conspiracy Cabal. Some people just jump to (2) as the answer. Possibility (1) is just not considered. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-09 14:57 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbq2nd$1rb$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #560827 |
On 3/9/2016 11:32 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 3/9/2016 10:19 AM, john wrote: >> It's standard procedure to have women >> that the cabal can't control declared >> mentally incompetent >> > > There's always a conspiracy-theory "standard procedure" that's aimed to > falsely discredit. > > So if someone says something that is "secret" and "revealed for the > first time" and there is no supporting evidence that what they say is > true, and furthermore there is evidence that what they are saying is > nonsense, then either: > 1. They are in fact nuts or lying. > 2. They are telling the truth, but that all supporting evidence is > suppressed and the discrediting evidence is manufactured by The > Conspiracy Cabal. > > Some people just jump to (2) as the answer. Possibility (1) is just not > considered. > John, and this is specifically to you, I just want to let you know that I've grown tired of discussing YouTube videos and "insider confessions" and other sensational supermarket tabloid headlines. To you it may be an endless source of fascination. It may also feed your belief that the ills of the world are all caused by secret shadow organizations that control all the power and steer our fates, and ordinary people are just victims of this scheming. I personally share neither your sense of victimization or dread about our future. Though I don't work for a major corporation or government agency, I don't hold them responsible for the evils of the world like some people do and apparently you do. I do not feel so disempowered that I look to aliens or spiritual messiahs to save us from those evils. So fret and dither all you want about secret technologies and disinformation campaigns and corruption in high places. You're going to find that most people do not have the angst-driven interest in them that you and people like you have. Most people take ownership in their share of the solution, and they have a much better outlook on life than you do. That's not to say you're alone. There's a substantial minority that buy supermarket tabloids and gobble up YouTube conspiracy videos. But MOST people don't. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 23:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <14c2e52d-6898-4ceb-99ff-0bc082c61f4e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #560921 |
Odd said: "john, stop pulling my head out of my ass it hurts my eyes just stop it now no more YouTube no more anything my brain has had enough"
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 03:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <4928246d-2092-4118-9c04-e5b6b118053c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561438 |
2:05 AMjohn Odd said: "john, stop pulling my head out of my ass it hurts my eyes just stop it now no more YouTube no more anything my brain has had enough" ------------- I'll tell you what I find amazing. It's the total lack of respect that kooks have. Not for me, honestly I want nothing from a kook. No, their lack of respect for science and the rigorous methods used by science. All one need do is read posts from BJ and John to see evidence of this. BJ claims to have worked in the field of science (note that someone who cleans the bathrooms at CERN can make the same claim) yet BJ, despite his exposure, believes in ghosts, the 9/11 conspiracy, ESP and much, much more. John, believes in all that and even such things as alien ghosts. Now they both have been put down for these beliefs for so long that their response has been to insult the people like me who only seek to educate and uplift them. They insult the very idea of testing their beliefs. Then BJ and John go on to invent their own science. This is the brand of science that demands no testing. It's the brand of science typified by fractals, haunted houses and esp. BJ even claims that ESP proves that the speed of light can be exceeded. Kooks.... You gotta love em
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 07:35 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nbuhiq$ca6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #561488 |
On 3/11/2016 5:46 AM, HVAC wrote: > > 2:05 AMjohn > Odd said: > "john, stop pulling my head out of my ass it > hurts my eyes just stop it now no more > YouTube no more anything my brain has > had enough" > ------------- > > I'll tell you what I find amazing. It's the total lack of respect that kooks have. > Not for me, honestly I want nothing from a kook. No, their lack of respect for science > and the rigorous methods used by science. > > All one need do is read posts from BJ and John to see evidence of this. BJ claims to > have worked in the field of science (note that someone who cleans the bathrooms at CERN > can make the same claim) yet BJ, despite his exposure, believes in ghosts, the 9/11 > conspiracy, ESP and much, much more. John, believes in all that and even such things > as alien ghosts. > > Now they both have been put down for these beliefs for so long that their response has > been to insult the people like me who only seek to educate and uplift them. They insult > the very idea of testing their beliefs. Then BJ and John go on to invent their own science. > This is the brand of science that demands no testing. It's the brand of science typified > by fractals, haunted houses and esp. BJ even claims that ESP proves that the speed of > light can be exceeded. What fascinates me is how someone like John can in one breath rant that money spent on fundamental, nonapplied physics is a waste of resources when the problems of the world need immediate attention, and then in the next breath present his own ideas for fundamental, nonapplied physics and hope for interest in them. This is an indication of internal torment -- wanting to be part of something he claims to despise. What fascinates me is how John can say that any scientific method that validates an idea he doesn't think makes sense can't be any good as a method at all, and yet he spends a LOT of time on a newsgroup devoted to fans of the scientific method. It's like someone who thinks crystal worship is nonsense, spending all day visiting with crystal worshipers and telling them that it's all nonsense. More indication of internal conflict. Ben is a different kind of nut. He just says that ALL ideas should be given equal effort of investigation, that ANY moderation or editorial control is criminal oppression and censorship, and that anything he has experienced is therefore the most important things for science to investigate (ESP and UFOs and whatever included). > > Kooks.... You gotta love em > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 07:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fe219d16-9d56-47e2-96fb-e69d726cc6f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561494 |
Odd Bodkin What fascinates me is how someone like John can in one breath rant that money spent on fundamental, nonapplied physics is a waste of resources when the problems of the world need immediate attention, and then in the next breath present his own ideas for fundamental, nonapplied physics and hope for interest in them. This is an indication of internal torment -- wanting to be part of something he claims to despise. What fascinates me is how John can say that any scientific method that validates an idea he doesn't think makes sense can't be any good as a method at all, and yet he spends a LOT of time on a newsgroup devoted to fans of the scientific method. It's like someone who thinks crystal worship is nonsense, spending all day visiting with crystal worshipers and telling them that it's all nonsense. More indication of internal conflict. Ben is a different kind of nut. He just says that ALL ideas should be given equal effort of investigation, that ANY moderation or editorial control is criminal oppression and censorship, and that anything he has experienced is therefore the most important things for science to investigate (ESP and UFOs and whatever included). ---------------- Obviously BJ has a deep seated resentment against science and the methods science uses to differentiate between fact and fuckwadism. What this is exactly I don't know. I have speculated that his interest/obsession with the paranormal caused him to be (rightfully so) fired from his job. This could easily lead to his resentment. But whatever the cause, the results are obvious in his abject hatred of true science. As for John... Well clearly John has had no science education whatsoever, unless you include visits to 911truth.com. I'm sure that if I was to investigate a bit I could find the source for his 'fractal' brand of science. But, while I support the legalization of all drugs, I would never advocate their use. John is a perfect example of why one should avoid mind altering drugs or alcohol.
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 21:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <56e382c5$0$13152$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #561543 |
On 03/11/2016 10:37 AM, HVAC wrote: > Odd Bodkin (Wrote: but HVAC hasn't the intelligence to actually properly reference other posts. Shit, He's gotten at bad as Glazier. Next he will be putting the post he's referencing in different posts from the replies like Herb does. Dance kook Dance.) What fascinates me is how someone like John can in one > breath rant that money spent on fundamental, nonapplied physics is a > waste of resources when the problems of the world need immediate > attention, and then in the next breath present his own ideas for > fundamental, nonapplied physics and hope for interest in them. This > is an indication of internal torment -- wanting to be part of > something he claims to despise. I know reason and logic have no place in Odds or HVAC's fantasy life, but it takes a pretty big moron to not notice the gigantic amount of money spent on toys like Cern and the Super Collider when the world is overflowing with pollution that is threatening our very food chain. Playing with particle nonsense may be fun and even worth while at some level, but wasting huge budgets on it is like spending the family grocery money on liquor and lottery tickets. I presume, HVAC, that is how you ran your imaginary family. > What fascinates me is how John can say that any scientific method > that validates an idea he doesn't think makes sense can't be any good > as a method at all, and yet he spends a LOT of time on a newsgroup > devoted to fans of the scientific method. It's like someone who > thinks crystal worship is nonsense, spending all day visiting with > crystal worshipers and telling them that it's all nonsense. More > indication of internal conflict. What fascinates me is how HVAC thinks anyone not agreeing with his ego trip fantasies and amateur science is a "kook" yet the only people you post to are people you imagine are "kooks". And all Odd trolls (are you listening Odd? Oh he's got his fingers in his ears singing: La LA La I can't hear you!!!!) are people who find problems with all the establishment "stories" that are supposed to be science. You'd think if you wanted to show someone was a true "kook" you'd spend some time producing some evidence. Instead all we get is personal opinion which we are all (We means everyone here that isn't HVAC) suppose to blindly swallow hook line and sinker. > Ben is a different kind of nut. He just says that ALL ideas should > be given equal effort of investigation, that ANY moderation or > editorial control is criminal oppression and censorship, and that > anything he has experienced is therefore the most important things > for science to investigate (ESP and UFOs and whatever included). Odd is so honest and sane he believes that all facts must be checked for establishment imprimatur and if they don't have it they must be censored and ridiculed. Needless to say this political nonsense has no place in real science. Both HVAC and Odd have censored themselves to the point where even when given precise references to million dollar government ESP research that produced positive results, they won't even admit it exists, let alone read it so they can debunk it. Real professional. NOT! > ---------------- > > Obviously BJ has a deep seated resentment against science and the > methods science uses to differentiate between fact and fuckwadism. > What this is exactly I don't know. I have speculated that his > interest/obsession with the paranormal caused him to be (rightfully > so) fired from his job. This could easily lead to his resentment. But > whatever the cause, the results are obvious in his abject hatred of > true science. HVAC if you were a journalist and not on the internet (where libel and slander is considered proper etiquette) I'd sue your ass from here Washington. I've never been fired from any job. And obviously as a scientist I love science just as you became a writer because you love fantasy. PS. I'm NOT mad. :-) > As for John... Well clearly John has had no science education > whatsoever, unless you include visits to 911truth.com. > > I'm sure that if I was to investigate a bit I could find the source > for his 'fractal' brand of science. But, while I support the > legalization of all drugs, I would never advocate their use. John is > a perfect example of why one should avoid mind altering drugs or > alcohol. More slander and libel. Where is your evidence that John uses drugs or the proof that you aren't lying about not using them. I say you are the most perfect example of a stoner I've ever seen. You and Odd sure are a waste of time. At least Odd and I are in agreement about conversations between him and me as being a waste of perfectly good bandwidth. Unlike you, HVAC, who are a waste of perfectly good skin.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 23:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56b19e68-5959-4359-af25-9e27fbb60ebe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561788 |
The problem with Odd and HVAC is that they have senior scientists (going crazy) and confirming just what BJ, myself and others have said, and they have senior CIA agents (going crazy) and confirming just what BJ, myself and others have said ROTFALMAO
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 23:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <181892b2-e7b4-441f-86e9-7ea6e09423e3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #561822 |
On 03/11/2016 10:37 AM, HVAC wrote: > Odd Bodkin (Wrote: but HVAC hasn't the intelligence to actually properly reference other posts. Shit, He's gotten at bad as Glazier. Next he will be putting the post he's referencing in different posts from the replies like Herb does. Dance kook Dance.) What fascinates me is how someone like John can in one > breath rant that money spent on fundamental, nonapplied physics is a > waste of resources when the problems of the world need immediate > attention, and then in the next breath present his own ideas for > fundamental, nonapplied physics and hope for interest in them. This > is an indication of internal torment -- wanting to be part of > something he claims to despise. I know reason and logic have no place in Odds or HVAC's fantasy life, but it takes a pretty big moron to not notice the gigantic amount of money spent on toys like Cern and the Super Collider when the world is overflowing with pollution that is threatening our very food chain. Playing with particle nonsense may be fun and even worth while at some level, but wasting huge budgets on it is like spending the family grocery money on liquor and lottery tickets. I presume, HVAC, that is how you ran your imaginary family. > What fascinates me is how John can say that any scientific method > that validates an idea he doesn't think makes sense can't be any good > as a method at all, and yet he spends a LOT of time on a newsgroup > devoted to fans of the scientific method. It's like someone who > thinks crystal worship is nonsense, spending all day visiting with > crystal worshipers and telling them that it's all nonsense. More > indication of internal conflict. What fascinates me is how HVAC thinks anyone not agreeing with his ego trip fantasies and amateur science is a "kook" yet the only people you post to are people you imagine are "kooks". And all Odd trolls (are you listening Odd? Oh he's got his fingers in his ears singing: La LA La I can't hear you!!!!) are people who find problems with all the establishment "stories" that are supposed to be science. You'd think if you wanted to show someone was a true "kook" you'd spend some time producing some evidence. Instead all we get is personal opinion which we are all (We means everyone here that isn't HVAC) suppose to blindly swallow hook line and sinker. > Ben is a different kind of nut. He just says that ALL ideas should > be given equal effort of investigation, that ANY moderation or > editorial control is criminal oppression and censorship, and that > anything he has experienced is therefore the most important things > for science to investigate (ESP and UFOs and whatever included). Odd is so honest and sane he believes that all facts must be checked for establishment imprimatur and if they don't have it they must be censored and ridiculed. Needless to say this political nonsense has no place in real science. Both HVAC and Odd have censored themselves to the point where even when given precise references to million dollar government ESP research that produced positive results, they won't even admit it exists, let alone read it so they can debunk it. Real professional. NOT! > ---------------- > > Obviously BJ has a deep seated resentment against science and the > methods science uses to differentiate between fact and fuckwadism. > What this is exactly I don't know. I have speculated that his > interest/obsession with the paranormal caused him to be (rightfully > so) fired from his job. This could easily lead to his resentment. But > whatever the cause, the results are obvious in his abject hatred of > true science. HVAC if you were a journalist and not on the internet (where libel and slander is considered proper etiquette) I'd sue your ass from here Washington. I've never been fired from any job. And obviously as a scientist I love science just as you became a writer because you love fantasy. PS. I'm NOT mad. :-) > As for John... Well clearly John has had no science education > whatsoever, unless you include visits to 911truth.com. > > I'm sure that if I was to investigate a bit I could find the source > for his 'fractal' brand of science. But, while I support the > legalization of all drugs, I would never advocate their use. John is > a perfect example of why one should avoid mind altering drugs or > alcohol. More slander and libel. Where is your evidence that John uses drugs or the proof that you aren't lying about not using them. I say you are the most perfect example of a stoner I've ever seen. You and Odd sure are a waste of time. At least Odd and I are in agreement about conversations between him and me as being a waste of perfectly good bandwidth. Unlike you, HVAC, who are a waste of perfectly good skin.
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