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  9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:21 -0800
    9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:02 -0800
      9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:16 -0800
        9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:44 -0800
      Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-08 20:21 +0000
        Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:31 -0800
          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-08 20:53 +0000
            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 23:00 -0500
              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 06:51 -0800
                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 12:11 -0500
              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 17:36 +0000
                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 10:34 -0800
                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 19:45 +0000
                  hoo-yoo noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 19:22 -0800
          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:53 -0800
            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:01 -0800
              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-08 21:43 +0000
                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 14:00 -0800
                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 14:09 -0800
                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:34 -0600
          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:37 -0600
            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 17:22 -0800
              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-09 02:31 +0000
                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 19:05 -0800
                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 19:32 -0800
                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:25 -0600
                      Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 06:42 -0800
                        Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:05 -0600
                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 07:08 -0800
                            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:27 -0600
                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:19 -0800
                                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:32 -0600
                                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 14:57 -0600
                                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 23:04 -0800
                                      Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 03:46 -0800
                                        Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:35 -0600
                                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:37 -0800
                                            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 21:45 -0500
                                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 23:27 -0800
                                                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 23:42 -0800
                                                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 09:40 -0500
                                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 03:07 -0800
                                                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 12:10 -0500
                                                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 09:31 -0800
                                                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 09:57 -0800
                                                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:46 -0500
                                      Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:23 -0600
                                        Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 05:44 -0800
                                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:49 -0600
                                            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 05:57 -0800
                                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:15 -0600
                                                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:24 -0500
                                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:19 -0600
                                                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 06:50 -0800
                                                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:57 -0600
                                                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:19 -0500
                                                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:22 -0800
                                                      Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:41 -0600
                                                  Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-11 16:04 +0000
                                                    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:25 -0800
                                                      Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:08 -0600
                                                        Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 09:16 -0800
                                                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 01:17 -0500
                                                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 13:55 -0500
                                                            march first noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 12:11 -0700
                                                Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:22 -0500
                                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 12:49 -0800
                                            Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:39 -0500
                                              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:30 -0800
                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 12:13 -0500
                        Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 07:11 -0800
                          Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 12:14 -0500
              Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:17 -0600
    Re: 9/11 video- CIA operative spills all Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:36 -0600

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#561584

On 3/11/2016 10:25 AM, HVAC wrote:
> I enjoyed THIS strawman used by BJ earlier in this thread...
>
> "Comman sense has everything to do with science. Theories that violate
> common sense means they violate logic and reason. "probability waves in nothing
> at all" is simply babbling nonsense. It is not science by any stretch".
>
> Lol BJ is so transparent.

And BJ is flat wrong that common sense has everything to do with 
science. If that were true, then there would have NEVER been the 
common-sense-disrupting revolutions in science, ranging from Galileo's 
positively ABSURD statement that objects do not require a sustaining 
force to continue in motion forever, to quantum mechanics, to relativity.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#561588

Odd Bodkin
And BJ is flat wrong that common sense has everything to do with 
science. If that were true, then there would have NEVER been the 
common-sense-disrupting revolutions in science, ranging from Galileo's 
positively ABSURD statement that objects do not require a sustaining 
force to continue in motion forever, to quantum mechanics, to relativity. 
-----------

Common sense tells you that CLEARLY the sun goes around the earth.

But it was his 'space is nothing at all' strawman that I found amusing.

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#561813

On 03/11/2016 12:16 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Odd Bodkin
> And BJ is flat wrong that common sense has everything to do with
> science. If that were true, then there would have NEVER been the
> common-sense-disrupting revolutions in science, ranging from Galileo's
> positively ABSURD statement that objects do not require a sustaining
> force to continue in motion forever, to quantum mechanics, to relativity.
> -----------
>
> Common sense tells you that CLEARLY the sun goes around the earth.
>
> But it was his 'space is nothing at all' strawman that I found amusing.

If I say the sun goes around the earth, you can't prove me wrong. You 
are an idiot and so is Odd. Anyway it was "waves in nothing at all" you 
ignorant cretin and it's in the Textbooks though I gave Odd the 
reference and he ignored it just as you would if I gave it to you.

You and Odd really believe all those "good stories" "explaining science" 
on PBS are true?  You laugh at scientists but you have nothing but your 
mouth to back you up. Still waiting for your list of publications in 
phys. rev. or Nature.

crickets.

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#562371

On 3/11/2016 11:16 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Odd Bodkin
> And BJ is flat wrong that common sense has everything to do with
> science. If that were true, then there would have NEVER been the
> common-sense-disrupting revolutions in science, ranging from Galileo's
> positively ABSURD statement that objects do not require a sustaining
> force to continue in motion forever, to quantum mechanics, to relativity.
> -----------
>
> Common sense tells you that CLEARLY the sun goes around the earth.
>
> But it was his 'space is nothing at all' strawman that I found amusing.
>

Ben will tell you that a physics book says electromagnetic waves travel 
in "nothing at all". Ask him which one and he'll in the end point to 
Halliday and Resnick. Go to Halliday and Resnick on the chapters for 
electromagnetic waves and Maxwell's equations and the electromagnetic 
nature of light, and you'll find there's no such statement. So ask Ben 
where in those pages (a section reference, maybe text surrounding a 
locatable equation) such a statement is made, and he'll suddenly start 
spluttering that you should find it yourself, that it's in there. So 
look again and maybe even log into a digital copy of the book to run a 
search for "nothing at all", and you'll still fail to find it.

But Ben still believes his hallucinations, even if the gummint has 
carefully eradicated all confessions of "nothing at all" from Halliday 
and Resnick specifically to discredit Ben.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#562377 — march first

there are at least no properties of light
that are particulate; the secondpower of the speed
of light is the growthrate of the wavefront (mod pi,
of course

> Ben will tell you that a physics book says electromagnetic waves travel 
> in "nothing at all". Ask him which one and he'll in the end point to 
> Halliday and Resnick. Go to Halliday and Resnick on the chapters for 
> electromagnetic waves and Maxwell's equations and the electromagnetic 
> nature of light, and you'll find there's no such statement. So ask Ben 
> where in those pages (a section reference, maybe text surrounding a 
> locatable equation) such a statement is made, and he'll suddenly start 
> spluttering that you should find it yourself, that it's in there. So 
> look again and maybe even log into a digital copy of the book to run a 
> search for "nothing at all", and you'll still fail to find it.

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#561537

On 03/11/2016 09:19 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 7:57 AM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> No other steel building EVER has
>> come down in near-free fall after
>> burning for a few hours. THREE
>> of them did on 9/11.
>>
>> Despite ALL evidence to the contrary,
>> you believe an official story like that.
>>
>> You are a brainless twat or WORSE a
>> government shill.
>>
>> Which is it?
>>
>
> It is a common feature of the delusionally paranoid that they believe
> that if THEY are worried about conspiracies and cataclysms, then
> EVERYONE should be worried about conspiracies and cataclysms. When they
> find out that most people are in fact not frantic about conspiracies or
> cataclysms, it doesn't occur to these few that maybe they are
> delusionally paranoid. Instead, they believe that they know the truth,
> and that others are blind sheep. They feel like they are the chosen few
> that know that the REAL news is in supermarket tabloids and YouTube videos.
>
> Blather all you want, John. You're not "in the know", no matter how much
> you'd like to think you are.

When you commit a big crime and the facts start to be discovered, the 
best defense is to start calling people "delusionally paranoid" to 
discourage them and any listeners from looking any further into what 
you've done. If you aren't willing to objectively examine facts, then 
clearly you are part of the crime.

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#561676

no other skyscraper was hit by a huge bomb (757 [Boeing,
filled with kerosene for a transcontinental flight

> No other steel building EVER has
> come down in near-free fall after
> burning for a few hours. THREE
> of them did on 9/11.

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#561544

On 03/11/2016 08:49 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 7:44 AM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> The premises behind your science are wrong.
>
> First of all, this is not MY science. It is science.
> You claim that they are wrong, but your judgement about what's right and
> what's wrong is based on your COMMON SENSE, which has absolutely nothing
> to do with how science tests right and wrong -- that is, by comparison
> with experiment.

Comman sense has everything to do with science. Theories that violate 
common sense means they violate logic and reason. "probability waves in 
nothing at all" is simply babbling nonsense. It is not science by any 
stretch. THe fact that odd data is measured cannot be "explained" by 
wild stories that don't even make sense as English.

> To a scientist, if a model that features smallest, dimensionless, and
> motion without energy consumption AGREES WITH MEASUREMENT, then it is
> not wrong. To YOU, it's wrong anyway and the agreement with experiment
> is irrelevant.

You (as always) miss the point that the model is NOT reality. 
Mathematics is pure fantasy. Smallest, points, lines dimensionless, 
infinite are all places where the model does NOT exist in reality. There 
ARE NO "dimensionless" or "infinite" things in reality. It's all a 
fantasy. How did you ever get the idea they weren't?

> So you do not think like a scientist thinks, period. You do not judge
> right and wrong the way a scientist does, period. You think the
> scientific method for judging what's right and what's wrong is trash,
> period. So John, why do you post endlessly to a group devoted to fans o
> of the scientific method? Answer the fucking question, John.

Why are you so determined to stay ignorant of the limitations of the 
so-called scientific method?


>> Sorry.
>> No smallest.
>> No dimensionless .
>> No ride-for-free.
>> No BHs form from gravity.
>>
>> You're just wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.
>>
>> I know that's hard to take.
>> And I'm sorry.
>>
>> But you make no attempt to think for
>> yourself, or to use logic.
>>
>> Again- I feel sorry that you won't allow
>> anyone to help you.
>> And now that you won't watch any
>> more Youtubes, or look at anything that
>> your handlers don't agree with, well....
>> what can anyone do?
>>
>
>

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#561566

BJ quacked
You (as always) miss the point that the model is NOT reality. 
Mathematics is pure fantasy. Smallest, points, lines dimensionless, 
infinite are all places where the model does NOT exist in reality. There 
ARE NO "dimensionless" or "infinite" things in reality. It's all a 
fantasy. How did you ever get the idea they weren't? 
------------

So to follow BJ's (cough) logic, he must be an atheist. God believers think that god is infinite and eternal. In his above statement, BJ says that NOTHING is infinite in reality.

Case fucking closed

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#560811

On 03/09/2016 10:05 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/9/2016 8:42 AM, john wrote:
>> They run you, Odd.
>
> Really? How so?
> How do they run you?
>
>> And they run guns.
>
> Well that I believe.
>
>> And that's why there will always be
>> war, until you grow a backbone
>>
>
> You think that eliminating gun running and weapon sales will eliminate
> war? Really?

As I understand it we need to "uninvent" guns to get back to peace and 
tranquility. Remember how little violence there was before guns were 
invented? We can always count on you libs for great ideas.

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#560758

John
They run you, Odd. 
And they run guns. 
And that's why there will always be 
war
------------

You say war as if it were a bad thing. That's the thinking of a coward. There are times when war is morally obligatory

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#560812

On 03/09/2016 10:11 AM, HVAC wrote:
> John
> They run you, Odd.
> And they run guns.
> And that's why there will always be
> war
> ------------
>
> You say war as if it were a bad thing. That's the thinking of a coward. There are times when war is morally obligatory
>
He means that if politicians tell you that going and killing people for 
them is important that you MUST believe what the say and do exactly as 
they want. That is a given.

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#560736

On 3/8/2016 7:22 PM, john wrote:
> :)
> I could get to like you, Odd.
>
> She was examined by many professionals
> and found saner than you or me.

And yet she was found by professionals to be mentally unfit to stand trial.

>
> You might want to listen to her speak
> and form your own opinion- you obviously
> didn't.
>

Oh, I did. John, I've met people who are completely insane and suffering 
from paranoid delusions (including a woman who was convinced that 
someone was replacing parts on her car nightly), but who sound 
completely rational in conversation. I've met a man who will very 
convincingly tell you that he served twenty years in an Alabama prison 
for a crime he did not commit -- except this neither agrees with state 
records or records of his residency.

All this points to, John, is your reliance on forming your own opinion, 
which is like relying on a sieve to carry sand. And now you encourage me 
to carry sand with a sieve as well. Sorry, but I know better.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#560571

On 3/8/2016 12:21 PM, john wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAawF22QUMs&sns=em
>

First of all, please get straight the difference between a CIA operative 
and a CIA asset.

Secondly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lindauer

Here's the thing. You listen to nutjobs on videos. You don't bother to 
see their prior history, you don't look for the background that might 
lend context to their motivations, you don't notice that she was 
released from incarceration because she was declared MENTALLY UNFIT to 
stand trial.

Now, please tell me that YOUR GUT tells you she's perfectly normal and 
telling the truth.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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