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  A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-20 02:42 -0500
    Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 03:39 -0800
      Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 15:25 -0500
    Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-20 18:10 +0100
      Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-20 12:25 -0500
        Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-20 10:29 -0700
        Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-20 10:36 -0800
        Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-20 22:07 +0100
          Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-20 16:19 -0500
            Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-20 22:49 +0100
    Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-20 11:25 -0600
      Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-20 12:38 -0500
        Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-20 10:46 -0700
        Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-20 10:39 -0800
        Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-20 14:28 -0600
          Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. El Chapo <Coca@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-20 13:52 -0700
          Re: A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-20 16:08 -0500

#554866 — A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees.

A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to 
rising sea levels submerging their island home:

http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/

More info here:

http://www.cantstopthewater.com/the-island/

Will you run away from this post like you did my last climate change 
related post, ko0ky?

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#554884

On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 7:43:20 AM UTC, kensi wrote:
> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to 
> rising sea levels submerging their island home:


Suggest that they are NOT the first. Humans have been moving to follow climate changes since before humans were fully human. 

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#555057

On 02/20/2016 06:39 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 7:43:20 AM UTC, kensi wrote:
>> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
>> rising sea levels submerging their island home:
>
>
> Suggest that they are NOT the first. Humans have been moving to follow climate changes since before humans were fully human.
>
Sea isn't rising (any more than usual). Island is sinking. But that's a 
fine point to a warmist.

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#554943

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Ko0O0oki kensi the LunkHeaded LibTard, in
<news:na95ej$im5$1@gioia.aioe.org> did thusly jump head first into the
wood chipper again:

> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to 
> rising sea levels submerging their island home:

Don't you mean "officially become the world's *sixth* "climate
refugees" due to blah, blah, blah", LunkHead?

Remember, you moronic libtards have tried bleating out your CO2
alarmist propaganda exactly like this in the past. See below. LOL

> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/
> 
> More info here:
> 
> http://www.cantstopthewater.com/the-island/
> 
> Will you run away from this post like you did my last climate change 
> related po<SMACKAKOOK!>

You fucking retard. Soil erosion != "zOMG! Anthpoopamorfuck Gloaebaiel
Wairming! DDUUUURRRRHHH!"

The Ninglick River is eroding the island, and has been for far longer
than humans have existed on that island. And it's not the first
Alaskan island to have been eroded away by water flow. Remember
Shishmaref? Yeah, the NOAA was forced to backpedal and admit that
wasn't due to "zOMG! Antherpomoorflick Galowbail Waormying!
DDUUURRHHH!".

NOAA wrote:
=========================================================
Erosion at Shishmaref is somewhat unique along the islands because of
its fetch exposure and high tidal prism, relatively intense
infrastructure development during the 20th century, and because of
multiple shoreline defense structures emplaced since the 1970s.

Erosion rates along the island front exceed (and are not comparable
with) those along adjacent sectors. Erosion is occurring along the
entire island chain, but it is exacerbated at Sarichef Island [where
Shishmaref is located] in part because of the hydrographic impacts of
hard armoring of a sandy shoreface and permafrost degradation that is
accelerated by infrastructure.
=========================================================

Not due to global warming. If it were, the adjacent islands would see
similar erosion. They tried to armor the coastline, did it wrong and
that fucked up the coastline even worse... because libtards meddling
with natural processes *always* leads to chaos, because libtards
cannot reconcile themselves to reality... the sand beach at Shishmaref
shaped itself to dissipate the most energy from the waves, the hard
armoring exacerbated erosion because it didn't dissipate that energy
as well. That energy was transferred along the coast to cause *more*
erosion elsewhere, because libtards like you can't seem to understand
the law of conservation of energy. LOL

Shishmaref residents stupidly built the town on a barrier island, the
barrier island right smack dab in the middle of the main
inflow-outflow channel for Shishmaref Inlet, making it especially
vulnerable to erosion, and you Klimate Katastrophe Kooks grabbed ahold
of the fact that barrier islands are notorious for changing geography
to bleat out your CO2 alarmist propaganda. Again.

Now on to Newtok... it's not due to sea level rise, as Newtok isn't on
the ocean. It's near the outer edge of the Yukon-Kuskokwim River
Delta... yeah, they built their town on a fucking river delta... how
smart is that? They built on silt that shifts as the river changes
course, and is naturally unstable. It's not "permafrost" and never has
been, due to the river flowing through there and constantly changing
course, as can be proven via the many oxbow lakes and relict channels
that have formed after the river changed course.

Newtok is a town built on river delta silt a few feet above the river
level, surrounded by oxbow lakes and relict channels. The drainage
channel that the residents built to drain water away from the town has
shifted, as channels are wont to do in a river delta, eating away at
the outside of the bend of the channel, which just so happens to
coincide with where the town sits.

So yet again, humans being stupid, they didn't understand that a
flowing channel would erode away the outer bank of a curved channel
and deposit silt on the inner bank of that curved channel, and they
built that curved channel right next to their town, putting their town
directly in the path of the eroding bank... *not* due to climate
change.

<http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/02/the-sixth-first-climate-refugees/>

SPNAK! on the bleatfarting Klimate Katastrophe Kook, who yet again
finds himself 180 degrees out from reality.

Message-ID: <65d0f5e1ad03d42086b4a492e0eba763@dizum.com>
========================================================
========================================================
> <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=134389570800>  

Kensi was "vacationing"... in Pembroke, Ontario, Canada... quite by
coincidence, you understand... LunkHead was there with Nadegda,
apparently.

And Nadegda and Kensi most definitely were *not* there to double-team
on Paul Derbyshire's mushroom-slathered meatpole.

Paul Derbyshire is a life-long virgin, you see. He'll never touch
anything more feminine than his hand with a Barbie-doll wig glued to
it, paste-on eyes, and his mother's hooker-pink lipstick smeared
between thumb and index finger knuckle. Ironically, he's named his
f(e)isty lover "kensi". She's really hot in the sack... an expert in
getting anal. Sometimes, she takes it so deeply it pokes out of her
mouth!

Oh, here's Kensi:
<http://goo.gl/hdpXFC>

She's Paul Derbyshire's regular Saturday night thang. Ain't she purdy?
I'm sure a lot of guys have hit that. Chimpy's hit that... twice.

Strangely and quite coincidentally, Paul Derbyshire calls his right
thumb "Nadegda". I found a picture of Nadegda, too.

<https://goo.gl/sbdRcq>

You don't wanna know what she's into. *Really* kinky stuff. Suffice to
say sometimes she invites along her four sisters for what she calls
"sexy spelunking". You know what they say... fugly chicks gotta go
kinky. LOL

> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyBYSuqQBQ>

> P.S. How's the astrophysics coming along? Have you visited 
> any good telescopes lately?

Ask kensi which observatories nearby have time standard control
capability. That's something every astronomer should know, right?

<snicker>
========================================================
========================================================

I note you've studiously avoided answering which observatories have
time standard control capability, LunkHead... only those who actually
work at an observatory would even know about such a thing, let alone
which observatories have that capability... but then, everyone knows
lumpy dumpy frumpy slumpy wannabes always out their womanly socks
because they're too stoooopid to play the part of the identity they've
assumed. Perhaps for your next sock, you should play the part of a mop
jockey or a streetwalker... that'd be something you could handle,
dude.

<snicker>

-- 

Kensi the moron wrote:
================================
The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2, and its area is 4*pi*r^2, so
the curvature is 4*pi
================================

Kensi the moron said the Gaussian curvature = 1 / r^2 *and* the
Gaussian curvature = 4 * pi.

Therefore, 1 / r^2 = 4 * pi
Therefore, r = 0.28209479176

Kensi the moron says every sphere in the entire universe has a radius
of 0.28209479176. Of course, being a moron, kensi didn't specify the
units.

The moron also said the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is dependent
upon that sphere's radius. Wholly incorrect.

Kensi the moron was corrected:
================================
Did... did you just say "the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2" *and* "the
Gaussian curvature = 4*pi" therefore "1/r^2 = 4*pi"? Now you
backpedal, LunkHead.

You mean the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2 * (4*pi*r^2) therefore =
(4*pi), and therefore the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is
independent of r due to its symmetry, thereby proving your original
"The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2" blather *wrong*?
================================

But Kensi the moron persists in insisting that what he wrote isn't
fucked up, and that the Gaussian curvature of a sphere *does* depend
upon its radius, because he doesn't understand the equations he's
trying to use, he doesn't know the difference between 'constant
curvature' and 'Gaussian curvature', he doesn't know what an integral
is, and he's a halfwit who can't figure out even basic geometry
problems.

Now remember, this is the same moron who k'lames he's an
astrophysicist... yet he's stated that the Riemann curvature tensor
concept being the central mathematical tool in the theory of general
relativity and the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of
space-time being described by the geodesic deviation equation, is
"science fiction" and "a howler".

In addition, the moron k'lamed that 4-D Minkowski space-time was
mostly positive Gaussian curvature, with only small areas of negative
Gaussian curvature, which proves the moron has no idea of the effects
of mass or magnetism upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold.

He has k'lamed that the Gaussian curvature of the universe is
predominantly positive, which means Lunkhead believes that massive
objects such as planets, stars and black holes ride *above* the
tangential plane of the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, thereby
making the planes of principal curvature positive Gaussian curvature,
and thus causing gravity to *repel*.

Lunkhead the moron has k'lamed that magnetism has "*no* effect" upon
the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, then backpedaled and said there
was a "small amount of positive curvature due to the energy density in
the field", thereby proving he doesn't know how magnetism affects the
4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, and denies the existence of
magnetic attraction.

Thus, Kensi the moron has described a universe in which planets could
not maintain their orbits, a universe in which magnets could not work,
and therefore a universe which could not exist.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow at a colder temperature
than the surrounding atmosphere is somehow violating the First and
Second Laws of Thermodynamics and giving off "blackbody radiation".

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow gives off "blackbody
radiation" at wavelengths that would put the temperature of the snow
at 489 F.

Kensi is the same moron who first denied the existence of the
~11-micron infrared atmospheric window, then backpedaled and k'lamed
that snow emitted outside that ~11-micron window, and was proven
wrong. Then the spankard moron tried to use the backpedal of
"blackbody radiation" being at a different wavelength than spectral
emission, yet again demonstrating that the moron has no clue how
spectral absorption and emission works.

Kensi is the same moron who denies the NASA SABER study proving that
CO2 is a global *cooling* gas _because_ of the ~11-micron infrared
atmospheric window.

The reality exposed by the NASA SABER study also proves the Klimate
Katastrophe Kook Anthropogenic Global Warming k'lame of CO2 being a
global warming gas is a fairy tale that violates the First and Second
Laws of Thermodynamics, thus destroying CO2-induced AGW, yet this same
moron continues to cling to his delusions.

Kensi is the same moron who continues to cling to his delusion that
global warming causes more intense hurricanes, despite three
peer-reviewed studies proving the exact opposite.

Kensi is not an astrophysicist, he's far too stupid to be. He's just a
slumpy dumpy frumpy lumpy loser trying to pretend that he's
intelligent... and failing badly.

That would be because Kensi is a moron with an underpowered brain that
struggles (and fails) to understand reality.

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#554949

On 20/02/2016 12:10 PM, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
!> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
!>
!> Ko0O0oki kensi the LunkHeaded LibTard, in
!> <news:na95ej$im5$1@gioia.aioe.org> did thusly jump head first into the
!> wood chipper again:
!>
!>> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
!>> rising sea levels submerging their island home:
!>
!> Don't you mean "officially become the world's *sixth* "climate
!> refugees" due to blah, blah, blah", LunkHead?
!>
!> Remember, you moronic libtards have tried bleating out your CO2
!> alarmist propaganda exactly like this in the past. See below. LOL
!>
!>> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/
!>>
!>> More info here:
!>>
!>> http://www.cantstopthewater.com/the-island/
!>>
!>> Will you run away from this post like you did my last climate change
!>> related po<SMACKAKOOK!>
!>
!> You fucking retard. Soil erosion != "zOMG! Anthpoopamorfuck Gloaebaiel
!> Wairming! DDUUUURRRRHHH!"
!>
!> The Ninglick River is eroding the island, and has been for far longer
!> than humans have existed on that island. And it's not the first
!> Alaskan island to h<MUSHROOM CLOUD>

There's no need for more, because nobody will take seriously someone who 
has to babble on about Alaskan islands to "disprove" that an island in 
LOUISIANA is submerging due to sea level rise.

1-0 kensi.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#554954

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:25:26 -0500, kensi
<kkensington01@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>There's no need for more, because nobody will take seriously someone who 
>has to babble on about Alaskan islands to "disprove" that an island in 
>LOUISIANA is submerging due to sea level rise.


I bet we can all guess who that is.

<snicker>

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#554986

In article <naa7ip$9o7$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01@gmail.invalid 
says...


> There's no need for more, because nobody will take seriously someone who 
> has to babble on about Alaskan islands to "disprove" that an island in 
> LOUISIANA is submerging due to sea level rise.
> 

AND land subsidence due to unstable sedimentary deposition, and oil 
being pumped out from under it.  Is the water rising, or the land 
sinking?  We know the land had been sinking throughout the delta region.  
None of this area was ever suitable for long term development.  Note 
that the delta symbol is used to indicate change, and change is what the 
Mississippi delta has always done.

-- 

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AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Vote  (Post-Burnore)
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
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#555097

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Ko0O0oki kensi the LunkHeaded LibTard, in
<news:naa7ip$9o7$1@gioia.aioe.org> did thusly jump head first into the
wood chipper again:

> There's no need for more, because nobody will take seriously someone who 
> has to babble on about Alaskan islands to "disprove" that an island in 
> LOUISIANA is submerging due to sea level rise.
> 
> 1<SMACKAKOOK!>

Oh, but that goes to show you Klimate Katastrophe Kooks have tried
this same tactic in the past.

Now let's examine the Isle de Jean Charles, shall we?

They're not even recognized as an Indian tribe, they have white
European ancestors, and only two originally Indian members of their
"tribe", women who married those white European ancestors:
===========================================================
http://www.bia.gov/cs/groups/xofa/documents/text/idc-001470.pdf
"Summary Under the Criteria and Evidence for Amended Proposed Finding
Against Federal Acknowledgement of the Biloxi, Chitimacha
Confederation of Muskogees, Inc.

The proposed finding on the UHN petitioner concluded that the
petitioner’s ancestors were arriving on Bayou Terrebonne between 1790
and 1830, and that by 1830 the petitioner’s ancestors, the majority of
whom were non-Indian, formed an identifiable distinct community on
Bayou Terrebonne.
===========================================================

Even the HUD document acknowledges that the land has been eroding
since the 1930s and possibly prior, given that they don't have
documents back farther than that. But maps from as far back as 1743
show a much more extensive coastline. So it's been eroding away since
the last great ice age deposited massive amounts of silt there, I'd
bet. The Chanderleur Sound barrier islands back then were wide enough
to be livable, and the land was much closer to those barrier islands.

So unless you're trying to k'lame that "zOMG! Antheroopimufruc
Glaeobaiel Waeormying! DUUURRRHH!" has been taking place since the
1930s (to include that stretch of documented global *cooling* in the
70s, during which you Klimate Katastrophe Kooks started bleating about
an impending ice age), then it's not due to global warming at all, now
is it?

Yet again, we see a group of people who built on marshy river delta
land, and they wonder why water is eroding their land?

That area is a massive river delta from the last great ice age, you
can see the drainage stretching all the way up into Missouri and
Illinois, where the glacier edge was, and even today the "mighty"
Mississippi (a pale shadow of what it must have been as the glaciers
melted, given that the drainage basin stretches across 1/4th of
Arkansas) drains into that area.

They're outside the levee system, so storm surges erode that silty
land, which is only natural and has been going on for far longer than
humans have been in that area. It's been exacerbated by the levee
system, which channels the water away from that region of the delta,
thus the delta in that area is no longer being built up with silt.

Not global warming, not sea level rise. Especially given that the
planet is *cooling*:

<http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FOS%20Essay/HadCrut3Global_Model.jpg>
The UK Met trend shows a -0.041 C (-0.0738 F) per decade *decrease*.

Message-ID: <e46a4017e5a77519d1489cd3f1129c08@dizum.com>
The actual underlying (read: unmanipulated) NOAA data shows a 0.6186 F
*decrease* from 2005 to 2015.

<http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-is-here/10783>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI>
Dr. Don Easterbrook shows the past global warming was solar and
orbital forcing induced, the conditions have changed, and global
cooling has set in... since 1998.

<http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/news-stories/article/global-warming-pause-hits-18-years-on-rss-data.html>
Using UK Met, UAH and RSS data.

Page 11 - Global temperature rate (C per year): dropping since ~1998.
*Negative* since ~2005. That means temps have been dropping for ~17
years, and the gullible LibTarDs have been lied to for ~17 years:
<http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/e/f/Paper1_Observing_changes_in_the_climate_system.PDF>

Message-ID: <b41f4a8054430ac46092e607919d7063@dizum.com>
Even NASA admitted that global temperatures were falling in recent
years (before they pulled that page... luckily the WayBack Machine
archived it):
<http://web.archive.org/web/20030816225534/http://icp.giss.nasa.gov/research/methane/greenhouse.html>
Note the center trace for modern times in that graphic... *falling*
temperature, even as CO2 and methane rose.

"There has been no warming since '98, and a very slight cooling that
is not statistically significant." - James Hansen

===============================================================
Taken from the hacked ClimateGate 1.0 and ClimateGate 2.0 emails:
<http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2012/01/email-4141-glimpse-into-climate-science.html>

"I think the notion of telling the public to prepare for both global
warming and an ice age at the same time creates a real public
relations problem for us."

- Asher Minns, "climate scientist" from scandal-rocked University of
East Anglia, letting the cat completely out of the bag.
===============================================================

And sea level isn't rising:

Gee... Antarctica is adding ice at a faster rate than at any time in
the past 300 years:
<http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/05/yet-another-study-shows-antarctica-gaining-ice-mass-accumulation-highest-we-have-seen-in-the-last-300-years/>

Oh look, Arctic ice isn't melting so much after all - look at all that
ice! Why, that's at statistical norms... and it's thick ice.
Arctic Regional Ocean Observing System
<http://web.nersc.no/WebData/arctic-roos.org/observation/ssmi_ice_ext.png>
<http://web.nersc.no/WebData/arctic-roos.org/maps_norsex/map_ssmi_latest2.png>
<http://web.nersc.no/WebData/arctic-roos.org/maps_norsex/map_ssmi_latest.png>

<http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eQ9ca4UEtik/VqHIzzPSQII/AAAAAAAATk0/N8NVsut-z0c/s1600/image001.png>
<http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ckMfyglA8Ys/VqGcsCPwpgI/AAAAAAAATkk/w9rMJwNf2Zc/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-01-22%2Bat%2B1.34.23%2Bpm.png>

Kind of puts the libtard Klimate Katastrophe Kook "zOMG!
Anthrupomoorfick Glowboal Waarmying! DDDDUUUURRRRHHH!" blather in
perspective, doesn't it? LOL

We are, and have been, in a trend of decreasing temperatures over the
past ~7000 years.

The Medieval Warm Period was warmer than today.
The Roman Warm Period was much warmer than today.
The Minoan Warm Period was much warmer than today.
The Egyptian Warm Period was much warmer than today.
The Holocene Climatic Optimum was much warmer than today.

And all through those much warmer climates, humanity not only wasn't
damaged, we *thrived*. We are, after all, a warm weather species.

In point of fact, we're at nearly a low point in global temperature
over the past 10,000 years, only three time periods in the past 10,000
years have been cooler... the Little Ice Age, the glaciation period
preceding the Medieval Warm Period, and the glaciation period
preceding the Holocene Climatic Optimum... and global temperature has
been trending downward that whole time.

With the sun now in a quiescent phase with lower solar output than at
any time since 1750, with even the last solar maximum being called a
"mini-max", combined with the planet's tilt index beginning to drop,
and just as it bottoms out, the planet's precessional index drops,
we're in for a protracted procession of continually lower temperature
records at an increasingly rapid-fire clip.

We're beginning to see this already in Antarctica, where a -160 F
all-time-low record was recently recorded.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles>
An often-cited 1980 study by Imbrie and Imbrie determined that,
"Ignoring anthropogenic and other possible sources of variation acting
at frequencies higher than one cycle per 19,000 years, this model
predicts that the long-term cooling trend that began some 6,000 years
ago will continue for the next 23,000 years." [23]

23. J Imbrie, J Z Imbrie (1980). "Modeling the Climatic Response to
Orbital Variations". Science 207 (4434): 943–953.
Bibcode: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1980Sci...207..943I
doi: https://dx.doi.org/10.1126%2Fscience.207.4434.943
PMID: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17830447

As I've said in the past, the libtard Klimate Katastrophe Kooks will
be ass-deep in snow and still bleating out their "zOMG!
Amfroopymorphduck Gallowball Waormang! DUUURRRRHHH!" stupidity.

If we allow their stupidity to continue uncontested, they'll drive
humanity to the brink of extinction, hamstringing the global economy
with austerity measures meant to curb CO2 (which has no effect upon
global warming and indeed has been experimentally proven to be a
negatively-correlated feedback mechanism of solar and orbital
forcing-induced global warming which actually causes global *cooling*
by more efficiently augering heat out to space on the night side of
the planet) to stop their k'lamed AGW, right at the time when the
global populace should be preparing for colder temperatures, not
warmer.

They would weaken economies to curb CO2, thereby making those
economies less able to feed and house and care for people, right at
the time when temperatures are becoming dangerously close to that
point at which people begin freezing to death in droves and crops
begin failing to thrive.

Think of it this way... would you rather have a warm climate with
expansive fauna and flora and the ability to feed everyone, or an
ice-bound glaciated frozen hell in which food animals freeze to death,
crops fail and people starve to death?

AGW is the largest scam ever perpetrated upon humanity. And humanity
will not forget it. Heads will roll, literally and figuratively
speaking, when the depth and breadth of the scam is finally revealed.

<snicker>

-- 

Kensi the moron wrote:
================================
The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2, and its area is 4*pi*r^2, so
the curvature is 4*pi
================================

Kensi the moron said the Gaussian curvature = 1 / r^2 *and* the
Gaussian curvature = 4 * pi.

Therefore, 1 / r^2 = 4 * pi
Therefore, r = 0.28209479176

Kensi the moron says every sphere in the entire universe has a radius
of 0.28209479176. Of course, being a moron, kensi didn't specify the
units.

The moron also said the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is dependent
upon that sphere's radius. Wholly incorrect.

Kensi the moron was corrected:
================================
Did... did you just say "the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2" *and* "the
Gaussian curvature = 4*pi" therefore "1/r^2 = 4*pi"? Now you
backpedal, LunkHead.

You mean the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2 * (4*pi*r^2) therefore =
(4*pi), and therefore the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is
independent of r due to its symmetry, thereby proving your original
"The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2" blather *wrong*?
================================

But Kensi the moron persists in insisting that what he wrote isn't
fucked up, and that the Gaussian curvature of a sphere *does* depend
upon its radius, because he doesn't understand the equations he's
trying to use, he doesn't know the difference between 'constant
curvature' and 'Gaussian curvature', he doesn't know what an integral
is, and he's a halfwit who can't figure out even basic geometry
problems.

Now remember, this is the same moron who k'lames he's an
astrophysicist... yet he's stated that the Riemann curvature tensor
concept being the central mathematical tool in the theory of general
relativity and the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of
space-time being described by the geodesic deviation equation, is
"science fiction" and "a howler".

In addition, the moron k'lamed that 4-D Minkowski space-time was
mostly positive Gaussian curvature, with only small areas of negative
Gaussian curvature, which proves the moron has no idea of the effects
of mass or magnetism upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold.

He has k'lamed that the Gaussian curvature of the universe is
predominantly positive, which means Lunkhead believes that massive
objects such as planets, stars and black holes ride *above* the
tangential plane of the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, thereby
making the planes of principal curvature positive Gaussian curvature,
and thus causing gravity to *repel*.

Lunkhead the moron has k'lamed that magnetism has "*no* effect" upon
the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, then backpedaled and said there
was a "small amount of positive curvature due to the energy density in
the field", thereby proving he doesn't know how magnetism affects the
4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, and denies the existence of
magnetic attraction.

Thus, Kensi the moron has described a universe in which planets could
not maintain their orbits, a universe in which magnets could not work,
and therefore a universe which could not exist.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow at a colder temperature
than the surrounding atmosphere is somehow violating the First and
Second Laws of Thermodynamics and giving off "blackbody radiation".

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow gives off "blackbody
radiation" at wavelengths that would put the temperature of the snow
at 489 F.

Kensi is the same moron who first denied the existence of the
~11-micron infrared atmospheric window, then backpedaled and k'lamed
that snow emitted outside that ~11-micron window, and was proven
wrong. Then the spankard moron tried to use the backpedal of
"blackbody radiation" being at a different wavelength than spectral
emission, yet again demonstrating that the moron has no clue how
spectral absorption and emission works.

Kensi is the same moron who denies the NASA SABER study proving that
CO2 is a global *cooling* gas _because_ of the ~11-micron infrared
atmospheric window.

The reality exposed by the NASA SABER study also proves the Klimate
Katastrophe Kook Anthropogenic Global Warming k'lame of CO2 being a
global warming gas is a fairy tale that violates the First and Second
Laws of Thermodynamics, thus destroying CO2-induced AGW, yet this same
moron continues to cling to his delusions.

Kensi is the same moron who continues to cling to his delusion that
global warming causes more intense hurricanes, despite three
peer-reviewed studies proving the exact opposite.

Kensi is not an astrophysicist, he's far too stupid to be. He's just a
slumpy dumpy frumpy lumpy loser trying to pretend that he's
intelligent... and failing badly.

That would be because Kensi is a moron with an underpowered brain that
struggles (and fails) to understand reality.

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#555100

On 20/02/2016 4:07 PM, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

> Now let's examine the Isle de Jean Charles, shall we?
>
> They're not even recognized as an Indian tribe, they h<SMACKAK00K!>

Since that has nothing whatsoever to do with climate change, sea level, 
erosion, or anything else remotely relevant to any possible cause for 
the island's shrinkage, it's a pretty transparent attempt at deflection, 
and thus reveals your desperation.

SPNAK!

*snicker*

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#555113

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Ko0O0oki kensi the LunkHeaded LibTard, in
<news:naal9l$1135$1@gioia.aioe.org> did thusly jump head first into
the wood chipper again:

> On 20/02/2016 4:07 PM, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> Now let's examine the Isle de Jean Charles, shall we?
>>
>> They're not even recognized as an Indian tribe, they h<SMACKAK00K!>

> Since that has nothing whatsoever to do

You left it in *because* you k'lame it has nothing to do with
anything... but as for the stuff that proved you *wrong*, you cowardly
snipped that all out. Spankard. LOL

> with climate change, sea level, 

And since climate change, sea level change nor anything else remotely
connected to what you libtard Klimate Katastrophe Kooks are bleating
about has anything to do with Isle de Jean Charles, what's your point,
LunkHead?

> erosion, or anything else remotely relevant to any possible cause for 
> the island's shrinkage, it's a pretty transparent attempt at deflection, 
> and thus reveals your desperation.

Moron, that river delta's been eroding since the mid-1700s, as maps of
the region prove. The melting glaciers from the last great ice age
dumped a metric shitload of silt there, and once those glaciers melted
away, the silt carried to that region was no longer sufficient to
maintain the size of that region, so the ocean started eroding it.

It's a natural process and has nothing whatsoever to do with your
kooky "zOMG! Anthroopimorprick Glawbool Wairmying! DUUURRRHHH!"
scaremongering alarmist bleating.

SPNAK!

Message-ID: <65d0f5e1ad03d42086b4a492e0eba763@dizum.com>
========================================================
========================================================
> <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=134389570800>  

Kensi was "vacationing"... in Pembroke, Ontario, Canada... quite by
coincidence, you understand... LunkHead was there with Nadegda,
apparently.

And Nadegda and Kensi most definitely were *not* there to double-team
on Paul Derbyshire's mushroom-slathered meatpole.

Paul Derbyshire is a life-long virgin, you see. He'll never touch
anything more feminine than his hand with a Barbie-doll wig glued to
it, paste-on eyes, and his mother's hooker-pink lipstick smeared
between thumb and index finger knuckle. Ironically, he's named his
f(e)isty lover "kensi". She's really hot in the sack... an expert in
getting anal. Sometimes, she takes it so deeply it pokes out of her
mouth!

Oh, here's Kensi:
<http://goo.gl/hdpXFC>

She's Paul Derbyshire's regular Saturday night thang. Ain't she purdy?
I'm sure a lot of guys have hit that. Chimpy's hit that... twice.

Strangely and quite coincidentally, Paul Derbyshire calls his right
thumb "Nadegda". I found a picture of Nadegda, too.

<https://goo.gl/sbdRcq>

You don't wanna know what she's into. *Really* kinky stuff. Suffice to
say sometimes she invites along her four sisters for what she calls
"sexy spelunking". You know what they say... fugly chicks gotta go
kinky. LOL

> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyBYSuqQBQ>

> P.S. How's the astrophysics coming along? Have you visited 
> any good telescopes lately?

Ask kensi which observatories nearby have time standard control
capability. That's something every astronomer should know, right?

<snicker>
========================================================
========================================================

I note you've studiously avoided answering which observatories have
time standard control capability, LunkHead... only those who actually
work at an observatory would even know about such a thing, let alone
which observatories have that capability... but then, everyone knows
lumpy dumpy frumpy slumpy wannabes always out their womanly socks
because they're too stoooopid to play the part of the identity they've
assumed. Perhaps for your next sock, you should play the part of a mop
jockey or a streetwalker... that'd be something you could handle,
dude.

<snicker>

-- 

Kensi the moron wrote:
================================
The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2, and its area is 4*pi*r^2, so
the curvature is 4*pi
================================

Kensi the moron said the Gaussian curvature = 1 / r^2 *and* the
Gaussian curvature = 4 * pi.

Therefore, 1 / r^2 = 4 * pi
Therefore, r = 0.28209479176

Kensi the moron says every sphere in the entire universe has a radius
of 0.28209479176. Of course, being a moron, kensi didn't specify the
units.

The moron also said the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is dependent
upon that sphere's radius. Wholly incorrect.

Kensi the moron was corrected:
================================
Did... did you just say "the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2" *and* "the
Gaussian curvature = 4*pi" therefore "1/r^2 = 4*pi"? Now you
backpedal, LunkHead.

You mean the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2 * (4*pi*r^2) therefore =
(4*pi), and therefore the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is
independent of r due to its symmetry, thereby proving your original
"The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2" blather *wrong*?
================================

But Kensi the moron persists in insisting that what he wrote isn't
fucked up, and that the Gaussian curvature of a sphere *does* depend
upon its radius, because he doesn't understand the equations he's
trying to use, he doesn't know the difference between 'constant
curvature' and 'Gaussian curvature', he doesn't know what an integral
is, and he's a halfwit who can't figure out even basic geometry
problems.

Now remember, this is the same moron who k'lames he's an
astrophysicist... yet he's stated that the Riemann curvature tensor
concept being the central mathematical tool in the theory of general
relativity and the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of
space-time being described by the geodesic deviation equation, is
"science fiction" and "a howler".

In addition, the moron k'lamed that 4-D Minkowski space-time was
mostly positive Gaussian curvature, with only small areas of negative
Gaussian curvature, which proves the moron has no idea of the effects
of mass or magnetism upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold.

He has k'lamed that the Gaussian curvature of the universe is
predominantly positive, which means Lunkhead believes that massive
objects such as planets, stars and black holes ride *above* the
tangential plane of the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, thereby
making the planes of principal curvature positive Gaussian curvature,
and thus causing gravity to *repel*.

Lunkhead the moron has k'lamed that magnetism has "*no* effect" upon
the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, then backpedaled and said there
was a "small amount of positive curvature due to the energy density in
the field", thereby proving he doesn't know how magnetism affects the
4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, and denies the existence of
magnetic attraction.

Thus, Kensi the moron has described a universe in which planets could
not maintain their orbits, a universe in which magnets could not work,
and therefore a universe which could not exist.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow at a colder temperature
than the surrounding atmosphere is somehow violating the First and
Second Laws of Thermodynamics and giving off "blackbody radiation".

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow gives off "blackbody
radiation" at wavelengths that would put the temperature of the snow
at 489 F.

Kensi is the same moron who first denied the existence of the
~11-micron infrared atmospheric window, then backpedaled and k'lamed
that snow emitted outside that ~11-micron window, and was proven
wrong. Then the spankard moron tried to use the backpedal of
"blackbody radiation" being at a different wavelength than spectral
emission, yet again demonstrating that the moron has no clue how
spectral absorption and emission works.

Kensi is the same moron who denies the NASA SABER study proving that
CO2 is a global *cooling* gas _because_ of the ~11-micron infrared
atmospheric window.

The reality exposed by the NASA SABER study also proves the Klimate
Katastrophe Kook Anthropogenic Global Warming k'lame of CO2 being a
global warming gas is a fairy tale that violates the First and Second
Laws of Thermodynamics, thus destroying CO2-induced AGW, yet this same
moron continues to cling to his delusions.

Kensi is the same moron who continues to cling to his delusion that
global warming causes more intense hurricanes, despite three
peer-reviewed studies proving the exact opposite.

Kensi is not an astrophysicist, he's far too stupid to be. He's just a
slumpy dumpy frumpy lumpy loser trying to pretend that he's
intelligent... and failing badly.

That would be because Kensi is a moron with an underpowered brain that
struggles (and fails) to understand reality.

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#554951

On 2/20/2016 1:42 AM, kensi wrote:
> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
> rising sea levels submerging their island home:
>
> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/

bullshit, that land has bee sinking for 50 years due to subsidance, not 
sea level rise.

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#554960

On 20/02/2016 12:25 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 2/20/2016 1:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
>> rising sea levels submerging their island home:
>>
>> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/
>
> bullshit, that land has bee sinking for 50 years due to subsidance, not
> sea level rise.

Another climate change denier crawls out of the woodwork. How much is 
Gulf Oil and the rest of the petroleum industry paying you for your 
opinion? (If the answer is "nothing", then you are what they would term 
a "useful idiot", bleating their propaganda for free while others are 
paid handsomely to do the same thing. Sucker.)

[auk desnecked. What are you afraid of, climate change denier? hmm?]

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#554968

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:38:22 -0500, kensi
<kkensington01@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>On 20/02/2016 12:25 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 2/20/2016 1:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
>>> rising sea levels submerging their island home:
>>>
>>> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/
>>
>> bullshit, that land has bee sinking for 50 years due to subsidance, not
>> sea level rise.
>
>Another climate change denier crawls out of the woodwork. How much is 
>Gulf Oil and the rest of the petroleum industry paying you for your 
>opinion? (If the answer is "nothing", then you are what they would term 
>a "useful idiot", bleating their propaganda for free while others are 
>paid handsomely to do the same thing. Sucker.)
>
>[auk desnecked. What are you afraid of, climate change denier? hmm?]


Personally I dont give a damn about global warming, who's gonna be the
president, etc... Fuck all that crap. I'm to old to give a shit.

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#554990

In article <naa8b0$a0r$2@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01@gmail.invalid 
says...


> 
> On 20/02/2016 12:25 PM, Sergio wrote:
> > On 2/20/2016 1:42 AM, kensi wrote:
> >> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
> >> rising sea levels submerging their island home:
> >>
> >> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/
> >
> > bullshit, that land has bee sinking for 50 years due to subsidance, not
> > sea level rise.
> 
> Another climate change denier crawls out of the woodwork. How much is 
> Gulf Oil and the rest of the petroleum industry paying you for your 
> opinion? (If the answer is "nothing", then you are what they would term 
> a "useful idiot", bleating their propaganda for free while others are 
> paid handsomely to do the same thing. Sucker.)
> 
> [auk desnecked. What are you afraid of, climate change denier? hmm?]

Except he's right, WRT the Mississippi delta.  This isn't anything new.  
New Orleans was built on top of crappy, unstable sedimentary deposits 
and has been subsiding since Day One.

-- 

Checkmate, AUK DoW #1, new FNVW of AUK, and Fakey's master
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Vote  (Post-Burnore)
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2016 
all rights reserved 

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#555067

On 2/20/2016 11:38 AM, kensi wrote:
> On 20/02/2016 12:25 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 2/20/2016 1:42 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> A tribe has officially become the world's first climate refugees due to
>>> rising sea levels submerging their island home:

>>> http://mashable.com/2016/02/18/america-first-climate-refugees/
>>
>> bullshit, that land has bee sinking for 50 years due to subsidance, not
>> sea level rise.
>
> Another climate change denier crawls out of the woodwork. How much is
> Gulf Oil and the rest of the petroleum industry paying you for your
> opinion? (If the answer is "nothing", then you are what they would term
> a "useful idiot", bleating their propaganda for free while others are
> paid handsomely to do the same thing. Sucker.)
>
> [auk desnecked. What are you afraid of, climate change denier? hmm?]
>

anyone that lives on the gulf coast will tell you that, numb nuts, the 
land has been sinking, some due to fresh water pumping. common knoledge.

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#555087

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 14:28:19 -0600, Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>common knoledge


do i dare say something?

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#555093

On 20/02/2016 3:28 PM, Sergio wrote:

> anyone that lives on the gulf coast will tell you that, numb nuts, the
> land has been sinking, some due to fresh water pumping. common knoledge.

They caused subsidence with "fresh water pumping" on a low-lying island 
at sea? Here's a hint, ko0ky: dig a short way down anywhere on such an 
island and you hit SALT water.

[auk desnecked again. What are you afraid of, climate change denier? hmm?]

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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