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9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False?

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First post2015-09-20 14:29 -0500
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  9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 14:29 -0500
    Re: Rocky still a delusional kook jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 19:59 +0000
    Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-20 22:34 +0000
      Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 17:43 -0500
        Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 23:00 +0000
        Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-20 19:21 -0400
          Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 18:39 -0500
            Re: Rocky continues to rave jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 00:02 +0000
        Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:28 -0500
        Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-21 00:51 +0000
          Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 07:07 -0500
      Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:27 -0500
        Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-21 14:29 +0000
          Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 11:11 -0500
            Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-21 18:05 +0000
              Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 13:28 -0500
                Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-21 20:19 +0100
                Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
              Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 16:16 -0500
                Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
              Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
            Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
          Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
    Re: 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:27 -0500

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#522259 — 9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False?

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-20 14:29 -0500
Subject9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False?
Message-ID<SqednVvgG6LJlGLInZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
BTW in the process of posting I changed the subject from "New 9/11 
Pennsylvania Crash Footage Filmed by a Mason!" to "9/11 - The No Plane 
Theory - True or False?" because the No Plane video was so good.

9/11 - The No Plane Theory - True or False?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xKVrf9cryE

Qualified but beat out by the above video.

New 9/11 Pennsylvania Crash Footage Filmed by a Mason!
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU6V4FNkySY

Talking about some of the 9/11 fcukups and these are just by three 
helicopters out on the morning of 9/11/01..

Chopper 2 or WCBS recorded the EMP by their AM receiver that we were not 
supposed to see that just happened to be at the exact same time the ground 
shook under WTC1.

Chopper 4 showed us a ball instead of a jet because someone at that station 
didn't feel right putting a CGI of a jet in their video.  And if you listen 
to the audio from channel 4 at the time of the alleged impact of the South 
Tower Channel 4 don't even acknowledge the presence of a jet.  See for 
yourself at:
 https://youtu.be/BswpAgwBNEw?t=1m2s

Chopper 5 showed us a missing jet in the wide shot and then they even pulled 
the plug when they thought the CGI went all the way through the South Tower 
when it just happened to be exactly what the napalm cannon pushed out the 
north side of the South tower.

And I'm sure if I looked hard enough provided our government hasn't removed 
them yet, I could find other videos from choppers that didn't add a CGI at 
all to their videos.  See:

9/11 no planes compilation - interesting!
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BswpAgwBNEw

And we can't forget about the fcukups from the people that added CGIs to 
dozens of videos because they added a black jet that should have been white 
because it was in direct sunlight.

Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of cranes as 
proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the trick 
with the crane )

Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
 https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s

And this video is very interesting because it doesn't show a jet but it 
shows helicopters that are not in other alleged impact videos.

9/11 Black Plane Hits WTC2 (Slightly Cut Off)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEcA-vAtn74

And here is another great video with all sorts of reasons he is inclined to 
believe none of the jets we were told about on 9/11/01 existed.  <G>

( Video now the first one mentioned in this post )

And we can't forget this video because it involves a real airplane instead 
of a CGI.

911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6ZQUWvDFs

And back to the subject of nukes.  Now I have to add, thanks to Michael 
Moroney that there are off-center physics, pure luck physics, and large mass 
physics with the only large mass from the Twin Towers being above or below 
the vaporization area of a deep underground nuke.

Here is the quote I'm referring to:
"And there is nothing scientific at all about your "off-center" collapse",
"pure luck" or "large mass" without evidence of a large mass.  <G>"

and here is the link to the post:
 news:jP6dnYJUMtPmS2PInZ2dnUU7-cGdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Rocky 

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#522270 — Re: Rocky still a delusional kook

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-20 19:59 +0000
SubjectRe: Rocky still a delusional kook
Message-ID<sqf3dc-b5r.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#522259
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

<snip delusional kook lies and ravings>

Nothing left.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#522337

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-20 22:34 +0000
Message-ID<mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#522259
"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of cranes as 
>proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the trick 
>with the crane )

>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s

Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with! 
And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!
Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?

If you kooktards had any common sense, after my revelation, you would
have changed the subject, taken down that video and hope nobody noticed.
But you don't...

Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone else
can laugh at your kooktarded ass?

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#522346

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-20 17:43 -0500
Message-ID<rsidnWQHN8V8q2LInZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#522337
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of cranes 
>>as
>>proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the trick
>>with the crane )
>
>>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>
>Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!

You did nothing of that sort.  What you would have to do is download the 
exact same video that he shows he downloaded and I know you didn't do that.

> And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!

Not as kooktarded as someone who thinks heavy objects should not fall 
straight down.  ( your words were "off-center" )  <G>

> Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?

You have just been a shit load of lies including that lie about 95% of 
Flight 93 was found when the truth is 100% of Flight 93 was found where it 
landed in Cleveland.  DUH.

> If you kooktards had any common sense, after my revelation, you would
have changed the subject, taken down that video and hope nobody noticed.
But you don't...

That is because you lie about so many other things too as I just mentioned 
above.

> Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone else
can laugh at your kooktarded ass?

And do not forget to notice that the wing disappears right before the CGI 
enters the South Tower because to date only one person could recreate that 
abnormally and he did it with 3D software and programmed the wing to reflect 
the sky.  <G>

Rocky 

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#522357

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-20 23:00 +0000
Message-ID<ldq3dc-66s.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#522346
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 
> "Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
> news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>>Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of cranes 
>>>as
>>>proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the trick
>>>with the crane )
>>
>>>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>>
>>K??ktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!
> 
> You did nothing of that sort. 

He most certainly did, you raving kook, but your kook delusions will not
let you accept such facts.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#522364

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2015-09-20 19:21 -0400
Message-ID<mtnern$1lg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#522346

Rocky wrote:
> "Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
> news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>> Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of
>>> cranes as
>>> proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the
>>> trick with the crane )
>>
>>> Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>> ( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>>
>> Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!
>
> You did nothing of that sort.  What you would have to do is download the
> exact same video that he shows he downloaded and I know you didn't do
> that.
>> And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!
>
> Not as kooktarded as someone who thinks heavy objects should not fall
> straight down.  ( your words were "off-center" )  <G>
>
>> Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?
>
> You have just been a shit load of lies including that lie about 95% of
> Flight 93 was found when the truth is 100% of Flight 93 was found where
> it landed in Cleveland.  DUH.
>
>> If you kooktards had any common sense, after my revelation, you would
> have changed the subject, taken down that video and hope nobody noticed.
> But you don't...
>
> That is because you lie about so many other things too as I just
> mentioned above.
>
>> Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone
>> else
> can laugh at your kooktarded ass?
>
> And do not forget to notice that the wing disappears right before the
> CGI enters the South Tower because to date only one person could
> recreate that abnormally and he did it with 3D software and programmed
> the wing to reflect the sky.  <G>
>
> Rocky






I've now quit wasting time replying to jimp.
I suggest you do the same.

I really do think he has a genuine mental health issue, and it's just sad to 
see. 

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#522388

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-20 18:39 -0500
Message-ID<otydneyzh7lu3mLInZ2dnUU7-KmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#522364
"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:mtnern$1lg$1@dont-email.me...
>
>
> Rocky wrote:
>> "Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>> news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of
>>>> cranes as
>>>> proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the
>>>> trick with the crane )
>>>
>>>> Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>>> ( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>>>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>>>
>>> Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!
>>
>> You did nothing of that sort.  What you would have to do is download the
>> exact same video that he shows he downloaded and I know you didn't do
>> that.
>>> And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!
>>
>> Not as kooktarded as someone who thinks heavy objects should not fall
>> straight down.  ( your words were "off-center" )  <G>
>>
>>> Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?
>>
>> You have just been a shit load of lies including that lie about 95% of
>> Flight 93 was found when the truth is 100% of Flight 93 was found where
>> it landed in Cleveland.  DUH.
>>
>>> If you kooktards had any common sense, after my revelation, you would
>> have changed the subject, taken down that video and hope nobody noticed.
>> But you don't...
>>
>> That is because you lie about so many other things too as I just
>> mentioned above.
>>
>>> Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone
>>> else
>> can laugh at your kooktarded ass?
>>
>> And do not forget to notice that the wing disappears right before the
>> CGI enters the South Tower because to date only one person could
>> recreate that abnormally and he did it with 3D software and programmed
>> the wing to reflect the sky.  <G>
>>
>> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've now quit wasting time replying to jimp.
> I suggest you do the same.

I've already quit reading his post since I've caught him in big lies.

> I really do think he has a genuine mental health issue, and it's just sad 
> to see.

Oddly enough everybody that has missed all the inconsistencies with "The 
Great 9/11 Hijacking Hoax" might have a screw loose.

Incase you missed the above Michael is claiming to "post still images from 
that clip online" but it just so happens that same video clip shows the far 
wing of CGI 175 disappearing just like a 3D CGI programmed to reflect the 
sky does so I'll bet Michael doesn't post clips of the invisible wing 
online.  <G>

Rocky 

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#522400 — Re: Rocky continues to rave

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-21 00:02 +0000
SubjectRe: Rocky continues to rave
Message-ID<11u3dc-jgs.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#522388
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 

<snip raving, delusional nonsense>

Nothing left.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#522376

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-20 18:28 -0500
Message-ID<q7guvatp6dgsjprd8cgft1nfs9sqt8megg@4ax.com>
In reply to#522346
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:43:48 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>>Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of cranes 
>>>as
>>>proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the trick
>>>with the crane )
>>
>>>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>>
>>Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!
>
>You did nothing of that sort.  

     Yes, he did. As did I.
     Michael's proving it was, however, far more detailed than mine.

>What you would have to do is download the 
>exact same video that he shows he downloaded and I know you didn't do that.

     How do you know this? Where is your link? <G>

>
>> And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!
>
>Not as kooktarded as someone who thinks heavy objects should not fall 
>straight down.  ( your words were "off-center" )  <G>
>

     The towers did fall off center. You appear to be the only k00k
unable to accept this. All the other k00ks who claim an inside job
accept that the towers fell off center.

>> Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?
>
>You have just been a shit load of lies including that lie about 95% of 
>Flight 93 was found when the truth is 100% of Flight 93 was found where it 
>landed in Cleveland.  DUH.

     Where is your link? <G>

>
>> If you kooktards had any common sense, after my revelation, you would
>have changed the subject, taken down that video and hope nobody noticed.
>But you don't...
>
>That is because you lie about so many other things too as I just mentioned 
>above.

    You've yet to cite one lie form Michael. In order to claim he's
lied, you've been reduced to lying.
     This happens a lot with you. Don't you find that the least bit
odd?

>
>> Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone else
>can laugh at your kooktarded ass?
>
>And do not forget to notice that the wing disappears right before the CGI 
>enters the South Tower because to date only one person could recreate that 
>abnormally and he did it with 3D software and programmed the wing to reflect 
>the sky.  <G>

     That doesn't answer the question he asked.
     What is it that cause you so much fear of answering questions? 
     Yes, I do note the irony of asking you that question.


"Reason and evidence can't change ones opinion on a topic if their
belief wasn't based on reason and evidence to start with."

Roger "Rocky" Wittekind explaining why he still claims nukes were used
on 9/11/01 in
Message-ID: <IoGdnbEGb_w08mvInZ2dnUU7-fmdnZ2d@giganews.com>

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#522404

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-21 00:51 +0000
Message-ID<mtnka7$n8t$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#522346
"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>>
>>Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!

>You did nothing of that sort.  What you would have to do is download the 
>exact same video that he shows he downloaded and I know you didn't do that.

I did download the clip, kooktard.  I had to in order to get the right
still frames.  As I said before, the normal speed video has low resolution
double exposures of the jet in the stills, while the low speed videos
somehow magically got higher resolution non-double exposures!!  How did
that happen!!!  Sorry, kook, you guys were caught!

>> And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!

>Not as kooktarded as someone who thinks heavy objects should not fall 
>straight down.  ( your words were "off-center" )  <G>

The top of the building tipped to the side slightly before the collapse.
Thus it was off-center.

>> Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?

>You have just been a shit load of lies including that lie about 95% of 
>Flight 93 was found when the truth is 100% of Flight 93 was found where it 
>landed in Cleveland.  DUH.

You are changing the subject, kook.  Do you still believe the discredited,
tampered clip?

Oh, BTW, it was Delta 1989 that landed in Cleveland that day, not Flight
93.  An air traffic controller heard the Flight 93 hijackers say things
like "We have a bomb on board" and thought it was coming from Delta 1989
so he reported Delta 1989 as hijacked.  The pilot said everything was fine
when queried.  Delta 1989 was ordered to land at Cleveland.  It was held
at gunpoint by the FBI and a SWAT team for a couple hours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_1989

>> Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone else
>can laugh at your kooktarded ass?

>And do not forget to notice that the wing disappears right before the CGI 
>enters the South Tower because to date only one person could recreate that 
>abnormally and he did it with 3D software and programmed the wing to reflect 
>the sky.  <G>

It's not hard to erase a wing.  Even a kooktard can do it.
I'll take a look to see if you kooktards did erase a wing (there are still 
three left!) since I still have the download.  I'll post that, too.

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#522457

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-21 07:07 -0500
Message-ID<YN6dnTyJ7J7ebmLInZ2dnUU7-QudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#522404
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mtnka7$n8t$1@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>news:mtnc9p$rko$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>>
>>>>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>>>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>>>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>>>
>>>Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with!
>
>>You did nothing of that sort.  What you would have to do is download the
>>exact same video that he shows he downloaded and I know you didn't do 
>>that.
>
> I did download the clip, kooktard.  I had to in order to get the right
> still frames.  As I said before, the normal speed video has low resolution
> double exposures of the jet in the stills, while the low speed videos
> somehow magically got higher resolution non-double exposures!!  How did
> that happen!!!  Sorry, kook, you guys were caught!
>
>>> And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!
>
>>Not as kooktarded as someone who thinks heavy objects should not fall
>>straight down.  ( your words were "off-center" )  <G>
>
> The top of the building tipped to the side slightly before the collapse.
> Thus it was off-center.

But the top of the Twin towers was never found on the ground so how can you 
use the word "collapse" when all the top of the Twin Towers really did was 
get vaporized before it could reach the ground.  <G>

And those three parts of the exoskeleton that were blown free of the 
vaporization area and got stuck in the ground.  They couldn't be moved on 
the first try so they had to give up on them until later.  And to think a 
CGI could fly right through that exoskeleton and then the same exoskeleton 
got stick into the ground so hard Iron Workers could not move then on their 
first try.  <G>

>>> Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?
>
>>You have just been a shit load of lies including that lie about 95% of
>>Flight 93 was found when the truth is 100% of Flight 93 was found where it
>>landed in Cleveland.  DUH.
>
> You are changing the subject, kook.  Do you still believe the discredited,
> tampered clip?

There is no doubt in my mind that clip was tampered with along with all the 
other videos of jets ramming into the Twin Towers that lacked any real crash 
dynamics.  Don't forget:

911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6ZQUWvDFs


> Oh, BTW, it was Delta 1989 that landed in Cleveland that day, not Flight
> 93.  An air traffic controller heard the Flight 93 hijackers say things
> like "We have a bomb on board" and thought it was coming from Delta 1989
> so he reported Delta 1989 as hijacked.  The pilot said everything was fine
> when queried.  Delta 1989 was ordered to land at Cleveland.  It was held
> at gunpoint by the FBI and a SWAT team for a couple hours.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_1989

And that news was probably provided by the same group that tried to tell us 
CGIs rammed the Twin Towers.  <G>

>>> Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone 
>>> else
>>can laugh at your kooktarded ass?
>
>>And do not forget to notice that the wing disappears right before the CGI
>>enters the South Tower because to date only one person could recreate that
>>abnormally and he did it with 3D software and programmed the wing to 
>>reflect
>>the sky.  <G>
>
> It's not hard to erase a wing.  Even a kooktard can do it.

But why erase a wing in a bunch of videos when all anybody had to do was 
program their CGI to reflect the sky and that would do the exact same thing. 
DUH


> I'll take a look to see if you kooktards did erase a wing (there are still
> three left!) since I still have the download.  I'll post that, too.

whatever but you really should watch:

9-11 ON CLOCKS IN OVER A DOZEN MOVIES SINCE THE 60s !!! & Live Moment Planes 
Hit Towers
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtNBgxS04Uc

Rocky 

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#522375

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-20 18:27 -0500
Message-ID<77guva9qabkjhu05v8vcsosv9rnudi7pmr@4ax.com>
In reply to#522337
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC),
moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote:

>"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>Or they added jets with disappearing wings that flew in and out of cranes as 
>>proven by:  ( note: the video shows the disappearing wing after the trick 
>>with the crane )
>
>>Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
>>( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
>> https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s
>
>Kòóktard, I just proved that clip had obviously been tampered with! 
>And you go and post another link to it?  How kooktarded is that!
>Do you really still believe that disproven, tampered clip?
>
>If you kooktards had any common sense, after my revelation, you would
>have changed the subject, taken down that video and hope nobody noticed.
>But you don't...
>
>Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone else
>can laugh at your kooktarded ass?

     Please do. I would enjoy seeing Roger's melt down over it.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#522470

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-21 14:29 +0000
Message-ID<mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#522375
"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> writes:

>On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC),
>moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote:

>>Shall I now post still images from that clip online so that everyone else
>>can laugh at your kooktarded ass?

>     Please do. I would enjoy seeing Roger's melt down over it.

OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/
The first three pictures are stills from the normal speed clip of UA 175
flying into the tower.  Note that the plane image is small, blurry and 
double-exposed (likely due to NTSC TV scanning).  The rest of the pictures
are from the slowed playbacks that supposedly show the plane flying in 
front of the cable.  Note that somehow, the plane images are much more
detailed, and are no longer double exposures.  How did that happen?  They 
did not come from the original normal speed clip!

In particular, Picture 2 (before doctoring) is the same as Picture 4
(after doctoring), with a wing aligned with the crane cable.  Also, many
of the doctored plane images look like rushed paste jobs.  The cable
doesn't even reach the jet because the jet image (plus some background)
was pasted right over it!

The kookvid this is from is: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL8cJWyOxWQ&feature=youtu.be&t=26m25s
(note corrected start time. Rocky doesn't even watch what he posts.  He
is probably told what to post)

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#522486

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-21 11:11 -0500
Message-ID<bPqdnQsjRpTttp3LnZ2dnUU7-bmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#522470
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>
> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/

And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right 
before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>

Video that Michael is not telling us the whole truth about follows:

Believe Your Own Eyes - 9/11 - No "Planes" Were Ever Used.mp4
( Time indexed to start at 25:58 )
 https://youtu.be/IL8cJWyOxWQ?t=25m58s

ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a few 
videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI reflective 
and it reflected the sky.  More on that in the following video:

Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U

Rocky 

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#522509

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2015-09-21 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<mtpgt1$ade$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#522486
"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>
>> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/

>And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right 
>before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>

>ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a few 
>videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI reflective 
>and it reflected the sky.

You want me to look for where the fakers also faked a missing wing in
that video clip?  OK!

Aren't you ashamed that you were fooled so easily?  Kooktards are such
stoopid sheeple.

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#522519

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-21 13:28 -0500
Message-ID<I82dne4vS7Dh0Z3LnZ2dnUU7-KmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#522509
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mtpgt1$ade$1@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>>
>>> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/
>
>>And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right
>>before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>
>
>>ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a 
>>few
>>videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI 
>>reflective
>>and it reflected the sky.
>
> You want me to look for where the fakers also faked a missing wing in
> that video clip?  OK!

Don't forget that a lot of videos with a disappearing wing were passed off 
to the news as if they were real because the same group of people faked 
those too.  <G>

And that to this very date the only person that could recreate the "Missing 
Wing" did it with 3D software.  <G>  See:

 Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
 https://youtu.be/p1D1C94eE8U?t=56m56s

> Aren't you ashamed that you were fooled so easily?  Kooktards are such
> stoopid sheeple.

BTW your BKD method of attacking those that you do not agree with is proof 
that you have a weak argument.

I've seen your story about the exoskeleton of WTC1 but what you really saw 
was the core columns fall into a heap of dust and not the outside wall or 
exoskeleton.

And don't forget I went back and proved your story about the bogus jet at 
the Pentagon reeks because it is inconsistent with the facts and it is 
inconsistent with the alleged eye witness Mike Walter who claims the 757 
folded it's wings back even though others claim he couldn't have seen that 
because trees would have been in the way.  <G>

9/11 Pentagon UNREALITY Check 15: witless USATODAY Mike Walter Changes his 
Story
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXKYI9wkbSg

Pentagon 9/11 Eyewitness Mike Walter Exposed
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qouaq9GFtOk

9/11 Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Mike Walter
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vxc50xAbk

There are way too many holes in the bullshit stories fed to us by the media 
and posters on this NG to believe any of them.  DUH.

Rocky 

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#522529

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2015-09-21 20:19 +0100
Message-ID<mtpl4j$af2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#522519
On 21/09/2015 19:28, Rocky wrote:
> "Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
> news:mtpgt1$ade$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>> "Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>>>
>>>> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/
>>
>>> And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right
>>> before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>
>>
>>> ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a
>>> few
>>> videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI
>>> reflective
>>> and it reflected the sky.
>>
>> You want me to look for where the fakers also faked a missing wing in
>> that video clip?  OK!
>
> Don't forget that a lot of videos with a disappearing wing were passed off
> to the news as if they were real because the same group of people faked
> those too.  <G>
>
> And that to this very date the only person that could recreate the "Missing
> Wing" did it with 3D software.  <G>  See:
>
>   Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
>   https://youtu.be/p1D1C94eE8U?t=56m56s
>
>> Aren't you ashamed that you were fooled so easily?  Kooktards are such
>> stoopid sheeple.
>
> BTW your BKD method of attacking those that you do not agree with is proof
> that you have a weak argument.
>
> I've seen your story about the exoskeleton of WTC1 but what you really saw
> was the core columns fall into a heap of dust and not the outside wall or
> exoskeleton.
>
> And don't forget I went back and proved your story about the bogus jet at
> the Pentagon reeks because it is inconsistent with the facts and it is
> inconsistent with the alleged eye witness Mike Walter who claims the 757
> folded it's wings back even though others claim he couldn't have seen that
> because trees would have been in the way.  <G>
>
> 9/11 Pentagon UNREALITY Check 15: witless USATODAY Mike Walter Changes his
> Story
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXKYI9wkbSg
>
> Pentagon 9/11 Eyewitness Mike Walter Exposed
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qouaq9GFtOk
>
> 9/11 Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Mike Walter
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vxc50xAbk
>
> There are way too many holes in the bullshit stories fed to us by the media
> and posters on this NG to believe any of them.  DUH.
>
> Rocky
>
>

Wriggle wriggle

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#522671

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Message-ID<8tu00bdu5cjllk8md00d9tohstrofvg8fv@4ax.com>
In reply to#522519
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:28:09 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>
>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mtpgt1$ade$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>>news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>>>
>>>> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/
>>
>>>And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right
>>>before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>
>>
>>>ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a 
>>>few
>>>videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI 
>>>reflective
>>>and it reflected the sky.
>>
>> You want me to look for where the fakers also faked a missing wing in
>> that video clip?  OK!
>
>Don't forget that a lot of videos with a disappearing wing were passed off 
>to the news as if they were real because the same group of people faked 
>those too.  <G>
>

     Unlikely. Especially since very few videos have anything that
could be mistaken or considered a missing wing. But you are free to
prove your claim. <G>

>And that to this very date the only person that could recreate the "Missing 
>Wing" did it with 3D software.  <G>  See:
>

     Have you noticed you alone are impressed with an effect anyone
with a minimal amount of knowledge regarding After Effects can do?

> Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
> https://youtu.be/p1D1C94eE8U?t=56m56s
>
>> Aren't you ashamed that you were fooled so easily?  Kooktards are such
>> stoopid sheeple.
>
>BTW your BKD method of attacking those that you do not agree with is proof 
>that you have a weak argument.
>

     Who the hell is BKD? I've asked this of you MANY times, but
you've never answered.
     Is your life so empty that you honestly feel compelled to make up
people?

>I've seen your story about the exoskeleton of WTC1 but what you really saw 
>was the core columns fall into a heap of dust and not the outside wall or 
>exoskeleton.
>

     That would prove an interesting trick.
     Where's your link? <G>

>And don't forget I went back and proved your story about the bogus jet at 
>the Pentagon reeks because it is inconsistent with the facts and it is 
>inconsistent with the alleged eye witness Mike Walter who claims the 757 
>folded it's wings back even though others claim he couldn't have seen that 
>because trees would have been in the way.  <G>
>

     Had he been on the other side of the trees, yes.

>9/11 Pentagon UNREALITY Check 15: witless USATODAY Mike Walter Changes his 
>Story
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXKYI9wkbSg
>
>Pentagon 9/11 Eyewitness Mike Walter Exposed
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qouaq9GFtOk
>
>9/11 Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Mike Walter
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vxc50xAbk
>
>There are way too many holes in the bullshit stories fed to us by the media 
>and posters on this NG to believe any of them.  DUH.

     Yet only the Troofers, such as you, have been PROVED to lie. In
order to claim others have lied, you've been reduced to lying. Each
and every time.
     How do you explain away this very real truth?


"Reason and evidence can't change ones opinion on a topic if their
belief wasn't based on reason and evidence to start with."

Roger "Rocky" Wittekind explaining why he still claims nukes were used
on 9/11/01 in
Message-ID: <IoGdnbEGb_w08mvInZ2dnUU7-fmdnZ2d@giganews.com>

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#522569

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-21 16:16 -0500
Message-ID<E9SdnVTQX96e6Z3LnZ2dnUU7-fmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#522509
"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:mtpgt1$ade$1@pcls7.std.com...
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>
>>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>>
>>> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/
>
>>And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right
>>before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>
>
>>ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a 
>>few
>>videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI 
>>reflective
>>and it reflected the sky.
>
> You want me to look for where the fakers also faked a missing wing in
> that video clip?  OK!
>
> Aren't you ashamed that you were fooled so easily?  Kooktards are such
> stoopid sheeple.

Why don't you just post the video to youtube or better yet give me the link 
you used and I'll download it too.

But if something has changed with that video I'd be more inclined to say it 
favors the bogus hijacker story because it was easy to tell that story was 
bogus from day one.

Rocky 

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#522668

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Message-ID<48310b198iqdpd6u6oc9bo96o1sftdjl03@4ax.com>
In reply to#522569
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:16:43 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>
>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mtpgt1$ade$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:
>>
>>>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
>>>news:mtp48g$iak$1@pcls7.std.com...
>>>>
>>>> OK.  The images are at: http://kooktardery.imgur.com/
>>
>>>And why did you fail to address why the port side wing disappeared right
>>>before the CGI entered the South Tower?  <G>
>>
>>>ROTFLMAO because one wing or the other happened to disappear in quite a 
>>>few
>>>videos and it happened because the 9/11 Hoaxsters made their CGI 
>>>reflective
>>>and it reflected the sky.
>>
>> You want me to look for where the fakers also faked a missing wing in
>> that video clip?  OK!
>>
>> Aren't you ashamed that you were fooled so easily?  Kooktards are such
>> stoopid sheeple.
>
>Why don't you just post the video to youtube or better yet give me the link 
>you used and I'll download it too.
>

     He did. You snipped it out when you replied.
     Here it is, C&P from Michael's post:

The kookvid this is from is: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL8cJWyOxWQ&feature=youtu.be&t=26m25s
(note corrected start time. Rocky doesn't even watch what he posts. He
is probably told what to post)

>But if something has changed with that video I'd be more inclined to say it 
>favors the bogus hijacker story because it was easy to tell that story was 
>bogus from day one.

     And yet, it wasn't. Odd that.


"Reason and evidence can't change ones opinion on a topic if their
belief wasn't based on reason and evidence to start with."

Roger "Rocky" Wittekind explaining why he still claims nukes were used
on 9/11/01 in
Message-ID: <IoGdnbEGb_w08mvInZ2dnUU7-fmdnZ2d@giganews.com>

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