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  Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 17:39 -0800
    Re: Aether, the playdough of God Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 13:48 +1100
      Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 21:06 -0800
        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 16:31 +1100
          Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 21:53 -0800
            Re: Aether, the playdough of God Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 17:25 +1100
              Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:47 -0800
                Re: Aether, the playdough of God Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 19:56 +1100
                  Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 23:28 -0800
                    Re: Aether, the playdough of God john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 16:49 -0800
                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 17:43 -0800
                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 07:34 -0500
                        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 12:38 -0800
                          Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 17:46 -0500
                            Re: Aether, the playdough of God Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 16:52 -0800
                              Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 06:19 -0500
                                Re: Aether, the playdough of God Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 17:56 -0800
                                  Re: Aether, the playdough of God Buck Futter <DognPolisher@hotmail.com> - 2019-02-17 19:38 -0800
                                  Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 07:43 -0500
                                    Re: Aether, the playdough of God Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 15:39 -0800
                                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 20:07 -0500
                          Re: Aether, the playdough of God Buck Futter <DognPolisher@hotmail.com> - 2019-02-16 16:44 -0800
                        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 01:55 -0800
                    Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 17:40 -0800
                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 23:25 -0800
                        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 15:32 -0800
                          Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 19:32 -0800
                            Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 09:47 -0800
                              Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 13:25 -0800
                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2019-02-16 10:13 -0800
                        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 15:37 -0800
                          Re: Aether, the playdough of God kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2019-02-17 06:51 -0800
                    Re: Aether, the playdough of God Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-16 19:42 +1100
                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 07:42 -0500
                        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 01:55 -0800
                      Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 01:48 -0800
      Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 02:49 -0500
        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 23:59 -0800
        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-02-14 19:53 +1100
          Re: Aether, the playdough of God benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-14 16:22 -0500
            Re: Aether, the playdough of God Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-14 18:07 -0600
              Re: Aether, the playdough of God mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-14 19:59 -0800
              Re: Aether, the playdough of God Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 15:10 -0800
            Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 17:36 -0800
        Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 17:30 -0800
    Re: Aether, the playdough of God mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-13 20:02 -0800
    Re: Aether, the playdough of God kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2019-02-16 09:47 -0800
      Re: Aether, the playdough of God Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 15:34 -0800
    Re: Aether, the playdough of God "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-16 14:11 -0800
      Re: Aether, the playdough of God "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-16 14:13 -0800

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#727202 — Aether, the playdough of God

Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether. 

Aether is the playdough of God. 

Cheers, 
Arindam Banerjee

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#727224

On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether.
> 
> Aether is the playdough of God.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 

If only things were that simple. The existence of the Aether raised all 
sorts of problems, which the bright minds of the century before last 
were unable to solve to their own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed 
that it's not needed, and most people were happy as a result.

Sylvia.

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#727260

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether.
> > 
> > Aether is the playdough of God.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> 
> If only things were that simple. The existence of the Aether raised all 
> sorts of problems, which the bright minds of the century before last 
> were unable to solve to their own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed 
> that it's not needed, and most people were happy as a result.
> 
> Sylvia.

Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing, lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily complex.

Einstein was the leader of an entire tribe of Eurocentric pseudoscientists, profiting from the fear of the atomic bomb by the public; but all bad things also come to an end. e=0.5mVVNB(N-k) describes the workings of all explosions and energy formations far far better than the silly, stupid and wrong e=mcc.

Those who have screwed up the whole of physics will resist all clear and straightforward efforts to make that straight. 

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#727264

On 14/02/2019 4:06 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether.
>>>
>>> Aether is the playdough of God.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>
>>
>> If only things were that simple. The existence of the Aether raised all
>> sorts of problems, which the bright minds of the century before last
>> were unable to solve to their own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed
>> that it's not needed, and most people were happy as a result.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing, lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily complex.

Fizeau's experimental results, and subsequent improvements on his work, 
present a real conundrum for those who favour an Aether hypothesis. He 
certainly wasn't trying to support Einstein, who had not even been born.

Anyone who favours the Aether over relativity has to figure out how to 
include Fizeau's results into their world view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_experiment

Sylvia.

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#727270

On Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:31:30 UTC+11, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> On 14/02/2019 4:06 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether.
> >>>
> >>> Aether is the playdough of God.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
> >>>
> >>
> >> If only things were that simple. The existence of the Aether raised all
> >> sorts of problems, which the bright minds of the century before last
> >> were unable to solve to their own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed
> >> that it's not needed, and most people were happy as a result.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> > 
> > Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing, lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily complex.
> 
> Fizeau's experimental results, and subsequent improvements on his work, 
> present a real conundrum for those who favour an Aether hypothesis. He 
> certainly wasn't trying to support Einstein, who had not even been born.
> 
> Anyone who favours the Aether over relativity has to figure out how to 
> include Fizeau's results into their world view.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_experiment
> 
> Sylvia.

A ridiculously wrong experiment. 

The MMI experiment proves that the speed of light varies with the speed of the medium, if the Earth is moving. That is the key experiment in relativity. It has been wrongly analysed by everyone, till I fixed the problem in 2005. I have written about that many times before.

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#727276

On 14/02/2019 4:53 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:31:30 UTC+11, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>> On 14/02/2019 4:06 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aether is the playdough of God.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If only things were that simple. The existence of the Aether raised all
>>>> sorts of problems, which the bright minds of the century before last
>>>> were unable to solve to their own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed
>>>> that it's not needed, and most people were happy as a result.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing, lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily complex.
>>
>> Fizeau's experimental results, and subsequent improvements on his work,
>> present a real conundrum for those who favour an Aether hypothesis. He
>> certainly wasn't trying to support Einstein, who had not even been born.
>>
>> Anyone who favours the Aether over relativity has to figure out how to
>> include Fizeau's results into their world view.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_experiment
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> A ridiculously wrong experiment.

What is a "wrong"experiment?

Fizeau did an experiment. He got some results. Other repeated his 
experiment, and got the same results.

So unless you're claiming that both he and the people who followed were 
incompetent, the results stand. The results are difficult to understand 
in the context of an Aether.

If you think the situation is otherwise, then try explaining yourself.

> 
> The MMI experiment proves that the speed of light varies with the speed of the medium, if the Earth is moving. That is the key experiment in relativity. It has been wrongly analysed by everyone, till I fixed the problem in 2005. I have written about that many times before.
> 

Putting "MMI experiment" into Google yields nothing relevant.

Sylvia.

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#727281

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:25:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 14/02/2019 4:53 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:31:30 UTC+11, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> >> On 14/02/2019 4:06 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>>>> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass to aether.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Aether is the playdough of God.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Arindam Banerjee
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If only things were that simple. The existence of the Aether raised all
> >>>> sorts of problems, which the bright minds of the century before last
> >>>> were unable to solve to their own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed
> >>>> that it's not needed, and most people were happy as a result.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >>> Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing, lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily complex.
> >>
> >> Fizeau's experimental results, and subsequent improvements on his work,
> >> present a real conundrum for those who favour an Aether hypothesis. He
> >> certainly wasn't trying to support Einstein, who had not even been born.
> >>
> >> Anyone who favours the Aether over relativity has to figure out how to
> >> include Fizeau's results into their world view.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_experiment
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> > 
> > A ridiculously wrong experiment.
> 
> What is a "wrong"experiment?

A wrong experiment is one which proceeds on the basis that arbitrarily illogical and irrelevant notions are implicitly valid.

> Fizeau did an experiment. He got some results. Other repeated his 
> experiment, and got the same results.

Lucky for him, that he got so much attention. I should be so lucky for the far more interesting experiments that I did, as shown in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg
IFE - 1 Ground Experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s
IFE - 2 Experimental setups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno
IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws
IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU
IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc
IFE - 6 Spaceship Design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA
IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY
IFE - 8 New Physics


> So unless you're claiming that both he and the people who followed were 
> incompetent, the results stand. The results are difficult to understand 
> in the context of an Aether.

They were all probably wrong in some way or the other, for science is prone to mistakes big and small; but I am not bothered to investigate as my interest is not with the early work of Fizeau, but with the bungle in the analysis of the result of the later MMT experiments. Which too have been repeated. If the same bungle is continuously made, then what to say, but congratulate myself for being the first to point it out.

> If you think the situation is otherwise, then try explaining yourself.
> 
> > 
> > The MMI experiment proves that the speed of light varies with the speed of the medium, if the Earth is moving. That is the key experiment in relativity. It has been wrongly analysed by everyone, till I fixed the problem in 2005. I have written about that many times before.
> > 
> 
> Putting "MMI experiment" into Google yields nothing relevant.

Try putting aether, Arindam Banerjee, Einstein, etc. in the search. If you fail to find something then I will post the link to the article I first published in 2005 and reposted later.
> 
> Sylvia.

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#727295

On 14/02/2019 6:47 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:25:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>> On 14/02/2019 4:53 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:31:30 UTC+11, Sylvia Else
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 14/02/2019 4:06 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia
>>>>> Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid
>>>>>>> MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine
>>>>>>> that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic
>>>>>>> space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two
>>>>>>> opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth
>>>>>>> of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass
>>>>>>> to aether.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aether is the playdough of God.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers, Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If only things were that simple. The existence of the
>>>>>> Aether raised all sorts of problems, which the bright minds
>>>>>> of the century before last were unable to solve to their
>>>>>> own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed that it's not
>>>>>> needed, and most people were happy as a result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing,
>>>>> lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of
>>>>> stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily
>>>>> complex.
>>>> 
>>>> Fizeau's experimental results, and subsequent improvements on
>>>> his work, present a real conundrum for those who favour an
>>>> Aether hypothesis. He certainly wasn't trying to support
>>>> Einstein, who had not even been born.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone who favours the Aether over relativity has to figure out
>>>> how to include Fizeau's results into their world view.
>>>> 
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_experiment
>>>> 
>>>> Sylvia.
>>> 
>>> A ridiculously wrong experiment.
>> 
>> What is a "wrong"experiment?
> 
> A wrong experiment is one which proceeds on the basis that
> arbitrarily illogical and irrelevant notions are implicitly valid.

Which are the arbitrarily illogical and irrelevant notions in the Fizeau 
experiment?


> 
>> Fizeau did an experiment. He got some results. Other repeated his 
>> experiment, and got the same results.
> but I am not bothered to investigate
> as my interest is not with the early work of Fizeau, but with the
> bungle in the analysis of the result of the later MMT experiments.
> Which too have been repeated. If the same bungle is continuously
> made, then what to say, but congratulate myself for being the first
> to point it out.

Is it MMT or MMI?

Anyway, it hardly matters. Whatever may have been rightly or wrongly 
done with respect to other experiments, Fizeau's remains a problem for 
Aether based theories, because of the implied partial dragging behaviour.

Sylvia

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#727483

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 7:56:31 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 14/02/2019 6:47 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:25:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia Else
> > wrote:
> >> On 14/02/2019 4:53 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:31:30 UTC+11, Sylvia Else
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On 14/02/2019 4:06 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 1:48:12 PM UTC+11, Sylvia
> >>>>> Else wrote:
> >>>>>> On 14/02/2019 12:39 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>>>>>> Aether is infinitely fine, infinitely elastic solid
> >>>>>>> MATTER permeating the entire universe. Aether is so fine
> >>>>>>> that atoms glide through it. It fills up interatomic
> >>>>>>> space. Aether conceals into what we call mass as two
> >>>>>>> opposite charges. Aether supplies the mass for the growth
> >>>>>>> of life forms. Death and decay cause return of that mass
> >>>>>>> to aether.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Aether is the playdough of God.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Cheers, Arindam Banerjee
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> If only things were that simple. The existence of the
> >>>>>> Aether raised all sorts of problems, which the bright minds
> >>>>>> of the century before last were unable to solve to their
> >>>>>> own satisfaction. Then Einstein showed that it's not
> >>>>>> needed, and most people were happy as a result.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Crooks and fools always makes things complicated. Stealing,
> >>>>> lying, twisting, not understanding deliberately or out of
> >>>>> stupidity, etc. never help. The make matters unnecessarily
> >>>>> complex.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Fizeau's experimental results, and subsequent improvements on
> >>>> his work, present a real conundrum for those who favour an
> >>>> Aether hypothesis. He certainly wasn't trying to support
> >>>> Einstein, who had not even been born.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Anyone who favours the Aether over relativity has to figure out
> >>>> how to include Fizeau's results into their world view.
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_experiment
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>> 
> >>> A ridiculously wrong experiment.
> >> 
> >> What is a "wrong"experiment?
> > 
> > A wrong experiment is one which proceeds on the basis that
> > arbitrarily illogical and irrelevant notions are implicitly valid.
> 
> Which are the arbitrarily illogical and irrelevant notions in the Fizeau 
> experiment?


Quoting from the wiki link:
***
According to the theories prevailing at the time, light traveling through a moving medium would be dragged along by the medium, so that the measured speed of the light would be a simple sum of its speed through the medium plus the speed of the medium.
***

That is a wrong notion to begin with. In 1851 it was not known that light is a travelling electromagnetic wave. 
So all that happens is that the speed of light diminishes as it goes through the dense medium. 

Aether is a solid, so it cannot be dragged along like a fluid. This notion was not clear to them, but it became so at the time of the Michelson Morley Interferometry Experiment (MMIE). 

By that timeof MMIE, the aether as solid matter permeating the universe was universally accepted as the medium for the travel of electromagnetic waves.

So what they wanted to find with the MMI was aether drift, meaning that as the Earth goes through the aether, what is the speed of the the Earth with respect to the aether. The aether would be drifting by, just like static fields beside a moving train.

Sergio-ji, if you are listening, please note this important point. As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion).


> 
> 
> > 
> >> Fizeau did an experiment. He got some results. Other repeated his 
> >> experiment, and got the same results.
> > but I am not bothered to investigate
> > as my interest is not with the early work of Fizeau, but with the
> > bungle in the analysis of the result of the later MMT experiments.
> > Which too have been repeated. If the same bungle is continuously
> > made, then what to say, but congratulate myself for being the first
> > to point it out.
> 
> Is it MMT or MMI?

MMI or Michelson-Morley Interferometry Experiment.
> 
> Anyway, it hardly matters. Whatever may have been rightly or wrongly 
> done with respect to other experiments, Fizeau's remains a problem for 
> Aether based theories, because of the implied partial dragging behaviour.
> 
> Sylvia

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#727549

Banjo
“ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
Aether does not move as the matter moves.
It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and of THAT level matter.
And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.

When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it  it passes.
Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.

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#727559

On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 7:49:47 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
[]
> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
[]
> 
> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it  it passes.
> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.

So they took your driver's license away, John?
Never opened the windows of your car on the freeway?

Ed

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#727594

On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
> Banjo
> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and of THAT level matter.
> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
> 
> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it  it passes.
> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
> 

Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.

He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson 
Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's 
a real Indian science genius.

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#727641

On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
> > Banjo
> > “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
> > whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
> > anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
> > hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
> > Aether does not move as the matter moves.
> > It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
> > 
> > Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
> > made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
> > of THAT level matter.

How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?

> > And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.

Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?

> > When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
> > by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
> > the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
> > Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
> 
> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.

Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.

> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson 
> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's 
> a real Indian science genius.

Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.

He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.

All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.

To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 

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#727658

On 2/16/2019 3:38 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
>> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
>>> Banjo
>>> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
>>> whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
>>> anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
>>> hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
>>> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
>>> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
>>>
>>> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
>>> made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
>>> of THAT level matter.
> 
> How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?
> 
>>> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
> 
> Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?
> 
>>> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
>>> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
>>> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
>>> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
>>
>> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.
> 
> Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.

I of course meant "everything he said in his post" He might actually be 
right about some things like say the quality of Bollywood songs and 
Lyrics (though that is not my opinion). Methinks Banjoji sounding like 
meji is some kind of insult!

>> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson
>> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's
>> a real Indian science genius.
> 
> Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
> Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.

Not "Indian Science" Looperji (is that like Jewish Physics? I'll have to 
think about that one), but science Indian! Get it? As for Foster's, it's 
said to be a cheap-ass ale, but very drinkable. What does that mean? You 
ever see any beer that wasn't very drinkable? Sure he lives now in Oz 
and has to put up with Foster's, but does that take the Indian out of 
him? I don't think so. It's just like my efforts to turn you into a real 
Merkin. So long as you are still GaGa over Bollywood trash I've failed 
miserably.

> He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.
> 
> All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.
> 
> To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.

Um...Please explain Kamasutra(y) more?  :-)

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#727686

On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> On 2/16/2019 3:38 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
> >>> Banjo
> >>> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
> >>> whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
> >>> anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
> >>> hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
> >>> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
> >>> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
> >>>
> >>> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
> >>> made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
> >>> of THAT level matter.
> > 
> > How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?
> > 
> >>> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
> > 
> > Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?
> > 
> >>> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
> >>> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
> >>> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
> >>> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
> >>
> >> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.
> > 
> > Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.
> 
> I of course meant "everything he said in his post" He might actually be 
> right about some things like say the quality of Bollywood songs and 
> Lyrics (though that is not my opinion). Methinks Banjoji sounding like 
> meji is some kind of insult!

I like that, meji! Now I'm wishing I'd written meji Meji MEJI... SelfieMeJi.
Btw, I'm the one who posts Indian lyrics to this English newsgroup. I do try, 
I suppose, I attempt to fish for persons who may also know them songs/lyrics.
In music, there's a certain connection amongst those who grew up, with the 
same tunes in mind. Like... I have me my books and poetry to protect me...

I also know many here, simply based on what they write. And vice versa...

Per dictionary sample: science must be at the service of man, and not vice versa.

> >> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson
> >> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's
> >> a real Indian science genius.
> > 
> > Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
> > Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.
> 
> Not "Indian Science" Looperji (is that like Jewish Physics? I'll have to 
> think about that one), but science Indian! Get it? As for Foster's, it's 
> said to be a cheap-ass ale, but very drinkable. What does that mean? You 
> ever see any beer that wasn't very drinkable? Sure he lives now in Oz 
> and has to put up with Foster's, but does that take the Indian out of 
> him? I don't think so. It's just like my efforts to turn you into a real 
> Merkin. So long as you are still GaGa over Bollywood trash I've failed 
> miserably.

I ain't nationalistic about me my science. I'm no mere Merkin, should
they even let me cross their orangish wall. I've never voluntarily
listened to any Lady Gaga song. Bollywood trash, I'll presume that
refers to movies, are something I no longer watch. Quality of contents
was better, in both movies and music, when I was younger. Hollywood too.

Fun fact. I discovered a, new to me, old song the other day playing on a
radio show with a very limited range, less than about pi miles from home.
Song's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoeHJ0Wqr0 Released: 1975-01-12
I stumbled on to it just 2019-02-12. Been repeatedly listening to it since.
Regret? Some. I bloody hell could've known this song since I was fourteen!

Time==Waqt जो भी तस्वीर बनाता हूँ... something about painting pictures... happens.

> > He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.
> > 
> > All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.
> > 
> > To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.
> 
> Um...Please explain Kamasutra(y) more?  :-)

It's an attempt to make rhyme, sounding like Kamasutreee... words are all I have...

Some complain: All you've got is word salad.
Some complain: All you've got is mathematics.
Some want: Models described in and by pictures.
Some want: Models described in and by equations.

Summize Summe(y)es... how to unite them all and in the darkness bind them?

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 

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#727722

On 2/16/2019 7:52 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
>> On 2/16/2019 3:38 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
>>>> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
>>>>> Banjo
>>>>> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
>>>>> whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
>>>>> anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
>>>>> hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
>>>>> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
>>>>> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
>>>>> made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
>>>>> of THAT level matter.
>>>
>>> How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?
>>>
>>>>> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
>>>
>>> Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?
>>>
>>>>> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
>>>>> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
>>>>> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
>>>>> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
>>>>
>>>> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.
>>>
>>> Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.
>>
>> I of course meant "everything he said in his post" He might actually be
>> right about some things like say the quality of Bollywood songs and
>> Lyrics (though that is not my opinion). Methinks Banjoji sounding like
>> meji is some kind of insult!
> 
> I like that, meji! Now I'm wishing I'd written meji Meji MEJI... SelfieMeJi.
> Btw, I'm the one who posts Indian lyrics to this English newsgroup. I do try,
> I suppose, I attempt to fish for persons who may also know them songs/lyrics.
> In music, there's a certain connection amongst those who grew up, with the
> same tunes in mind. Like... I have me my books and poetry to protect me...

Most books (fiction) and poetry are fantasy (lies). Not much protectoin 
there!

> I also know many here, simply based on what they write. And vice versa...

Well, THAT is a bad assumption in this troll pit!

> Per dictionary sample: science must be at the service of man, and not vice versa.

That is up until the present when Science is in the service of politics.

>>>> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson
>>>> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's
>>>> a real Indian science genius.
>>>
>>> Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
>>> Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.
>>
>> Not "Indian Science" Looperji (is that like Jewish Physics? I'll have to
>> think about that one), but science Indian! Get it? As for Foster's, it's
>> said to be a cheap-ass ale, but very drinkable. What does that mean? You
>> ever see any beer that wasn't very drinkable? Sure he lives now in Oz
>> and has to put up with Foster's, but does that take the Indian out of
>> him? I don't think so. It's just like my efforts to turn you into a real
>> Merkin. So long as you are still GaGa over Bollywood trash I've failed
>> miserably.
> 
> I ain't nationalistic about me my science. I'm no mere Merkin, should
> they even let me cross their orangish wall. I've never voluntarily
> listened to any Lady Gaga song. Bollywood trash, I'll presume that
> refers to movies, are something I no longer watch. Quality of contents
> was better, in both movies and music, when I was younger. Hollywood too.

No longer watch movies? Wow! Is that progress or WHAT? I"m not sure 
quality has ever been better. A few try hard but the rest just coast. 
Movies are all about reflecting styles of the present and trying to use 
fantasy to influence the future.

> Fun fact. I discovered a, new to me, old song the other day playing on a
> radio show with a very limited range, less than about pi miles from home.
> Song's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoeHJ0Wqr0 Released: 1975-01-12
> I stumbled on to it just 2019-02-12. Been repeatedly listening to it since.
> Regret? Some. I bloody hell could've known this song since I was fourteen!

Nice photo, but song? Not so much. I guess there has been progress but 
you are not free of your demons yet!

> Time==Waqt जो भी तस्वीर बनाता हूँ... something about painting pictures... happens.
> 
>>> He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.
>>>
>>> All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.
>>>
>>> To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.
>>
>> Um...Please explain Kamasutra(y) more?  :-)
> 
> It's an attempt to make rhyme, sounding like Kamasutreee... words are all I have...
> 
> Some complain: All you've got is word salad.
> Some complain: All you've got is mathematics.
> Some want: Models described in and by pictures.
> Some want: Models described in and by equations.

Music is mathematics Looprji. Think about that one.

> Summize Summe(y)es... how to unite them all and in the darkness bind them?
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> 

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#727809

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 6:19:54 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> On 2/16/2019 7:52 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >> On 2/16/2019 3:38 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >>>> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
> >>>>> Banjo
> >>>>> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
> >>>>> whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
> >>>>> anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
> >>>>> hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
> >>>>> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
> >>>>> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
> >>>>> made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
> >>>>> of THAT level matter.
> >>>
> >>> How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?
> >>>
> >>>>> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
> >>>
> >>> Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?
> >>>
> >>>>> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
> >>>>> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
> >>>>> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
> >>>>> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.
> >>>
> >>> Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.
> >>
> >> I of course meant "everything he said in his post" He might actually be
> >> right about some things like say the quality of Bollywood songs and
> >> Lyrics (though that is not my opinion). Methinks Banjoji sounding like
> >> meji is some kind of insult!
> > 
> > I like that, meji! Now I'm wishing I'd written meji Meji MEJI... SelfieMeJi.
> > Btw, I'm the one who posts Indian lyrics to this English newsgroup. I do try,
> > I suppose, I attempt to fish for persons who may also know them songs/lyrics.
> > In music, there's a certain connection amongst those who grew up, with the
> > same tunes in mind. Like... I have me my books and poetry to protect me...
> 
> Most books (fiction) and poetry are fantasy (lies). Not much protectoin 
> there!

Simon&Garfunkel(1966)... I have my books and poetry to protect me... I am a rock...

There's non-fiction books, as you well know. You're reading the wrong poetry.

> > I also know many here, simply based on what they write. And vice versa...
> 
> Well, THAT is a bad assumption in this troll pit!

I know from trolls and real people discussions. At least, I hope I know.

> > Per dictionary sample: science must be at the service of man, and not vice versa.
> 
> That is up until the present when Science is in the service of politics.

What do you call thousands of politicians drowned at sea? A good start?!
Here's a random, out of thin air question. Describe what happens to a dead
whale's carcas as it sinks to the bottom of the sea/ocean?
 
> >>>> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson
> >>>> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's
> >>>> a real Indian science genius.
> >>>
> >>> Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
> >>> Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.
> >>
> >> Not "Indian Science" Looperji (is that like Jewish Physics? I'll have to
> >> think about that one), but science Indian! Get it? As for Foster's, it's
> >> said to be a cheap-ass ale, but very drinkable. What does that mean? You
> >> ever see any beer that wasn't very drinkable? Sure he lives now in Oz
> >> and has to put up with Foster's, but does that take the Indian out of
> >> him? I don't think so. It's just like my efforts to turn you into a real
> >> Merkin. So long as you are still GaGa over Bollywood trash I've failed
> >> miserably.
> > 
> > I ain't nationalistic about me my science. I'm no mere Merkin, should
> > they even let me cross their orangish wall. I've never voluntarily
> > listened to any Lady Gaga song. Bollywood trash, I'll presume that
> > refers to movies, are something I no longer watch. Quality of contents
> > was better, in both movies and music, when I was younger. Hollywood too.
> 
> No longer watch movies? Wow! Is that progress or WHAT? I"m not sure 
> quality has ever been better. A few try hard but the rest just coast. 
> Movies are all about reflecting styles of the present and trying to use 
> fantasy to influence the future.

No not really, I'll watch old movies once in a while. Either Hindi or English.
I'm trying to go watch the new movie about the late musician Freddie
Mercury and the band Queen in Bohemian Rhapsody. Freddie was half-Indian 
and half-English. Queen's music, just timeless. Brian May is an Astrophysicist.

> > Fun fact. I discovered a, new to me, old song the other day playing on a
> > radio show with a very limited range, less than about pi miles from home.
> > Song's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoeHJ0Wqr0 Released: 1975-01-12
> > I stumbled on to it just 2019-02-12. Been repeatedly listening to it since.
> > Regret? Some. I bloody hell could've known this song since I was fourteen!
> 
> Nice photo, but song? Not so much. I guess there has been progress but 
> you are not free of your demons yet!

Photos, pictures, semi-nude dancers do not make a song. Never have,
not from my perspective. Indians had music videos long before there
was MTV. I'll put with some photos-set-to-music, but music must stand
independent of any imagery placed upon or around it. It's just me.

Do my demons have names or descriptions? I'm curious to find out.

Here's a great video/music combination in English song by The Verve:
https://tinyurl.com/Verve7638 more than 420+ million views, it has.

> > Time==Waqt जो भी तस्वीर बनाता हूँ... something about painting pictures... happens.
> > 
> >>> He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.
> >>>
> >>> All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.
> >>>
> >>> To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.
> >>
> >> Um...Please explain Kamasutra(y) more?  :-)
> > 
> > It's an attempt to make rhyme, sounding like Kamasutreee... words are all I have...
> > 
> > Some complain: All you've got is word salad.
> > Some complain: All you've got is mathematics.
> > Some want: Models described in and by pictures.
> > Some want: Models described in and by equations.
> 
> Music is mathematics Looprji. Think about that one.

I wouldn't be thinking about that for the first time either. Music is
simultaneously very physical. I do try play bamboo flutes. Since that
makes loud sounds whilst I practice, disturbing hundreds of people that
per chance might surround me, I rarely practice any more. You're welcome!

The only string instrument I'm good at playing is a tennis racquet.

> > Summize Summe(y)es... how to unite them all and in the darkness bind them?
> > 
> > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!

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#727830

Welcome back idiot.

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#727858

On 2/17/2019 8:56 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 6:19:54 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
>> On 2/16/2019 7:52 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
>>>> On 2/16/2019 3:38 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
>>>>>>> Banjo
>>>>>>> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
>>>>>>> whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
>>>>>>> anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
>>>>>>> hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
>>>>>>> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
>>>>>>> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
>>>>>>> made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
>>>>>>> of THAT level matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
>>>>>>> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
>>>>>>> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
>>>>>>> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.
>>>>
>>>> I of course meant "everything he said in his post" He might actually be
>>>> right about some things like say the quality of Bollywood songs and
>>>> Lyrics (though that is not my opinion). Methinks Banjoji sounding like
>>>> meji is some kind of insult!
>>>
>>> I like that, meji! Now I'm wishing I'd written meji Meji MEJI... SelfieMeJi.
>>> Btw, I'm the one who posts Indian lyrics to this English newsgroup. I do try,
>>> I suppose, I attempt to fish for persons who may also know them songs/lyrics.
>>> In music, there's a certain connection amongst those who grew up, with the
>>> same tunes in mind. Like... I have me my books and poetry to protect me...
>>
>> Most books (fiction) and poetry are fantasy (lies). Not much protectoin
>> there!

> Simon&Garfunkel(1966)... I have my books and poetry to protect me... I am a rock...
> 
> There's non-fiction books, as you well know. You're reading the wrong poetry.

Non-fiction poetry? Hmmmm. Not familiar with that Simon and Garfunkle tune.

>>> I also know many here, simply based on what they write. And vice versa...
>>
>> Well, THAT is a bad assumption in this troll pit!
> 
> I know from trolls and real people discussions. At least, I hope I know.
> 
>>> Per dictionary sample: science must be at the service of man, and not vice versa.
>>
>> That is up until the present when Science is in the service of politics.
> 
> What do you call thousands of politicians drowned at sea? A good start?!
> Here's a random, out of thin air question. Describe what happens to a dead
> whale's carcas as it sinks to the bottom of the sea/ocean?

I thought they washed up o beaches?

>>>>>> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson
>>>>>> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's
>>>>>> a real Indian science genius.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
>>>>> Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.
>>>>
>>>> Not "Indian Science" Looperji (is that like Jewish Physics? I'll have to
>>>> think about that one), but science Indian! Get it? As for Foster's, it's
>>>> said to be a cheap-ass ale, but very drinkable. What does that mean? You
>>>> ever see any beer that wasn't very drinkable? Sure he lives now in Oz
>>>> and has to put up with Foster's, but does that take the Indian out of
>>>> him? I don't think so. It's just like my efforts to turn you into a real
>>>> Merkin. So long as you are still GaGa over Bollywood trash I've failed
>>>> miserably.
>>>
>>> I ain't nationalistic about me my science. I'm no mere Merkin, should
>>> they even let me cross their orangish wall. I've never voluntarily
>>> listened to any Lady Gaga song. Bollywood trash, I'll presume that
>>> refers to movies, are something I no longer watch. Quality of contents
>>> was better, in both movies and music, when I was younger. Hollywood too.
>>
>> No longer watch movies? Wow! Is that progress or WHAT? I"m not sure
>> quality has ever been better. A few try hard but the rest just coast.
>> Movies are all about reflecting styles of the present and trying to use
>> fantasy to influence the future.
> 
> No not really, I'll watch old movies once in a while. Either Hindi or English.
> I'm trying to go watch the new movie about the late musician Freddie
> Mercury and the band Queen in Bohemian Rhapsody. Freddie was half-Indian
> and half-English. Queen's music, just timeless. Brian May is an Astrophysicist.

Yeah, it was at the local Dollar theater (re) but I just never got 
around to going to see it even though I wanted too. I figure, hey still 
online for download. Even though some theater(re) experiences require 
the big screen and speakers, indeed some even DEMAND the IMAX experience 
some even DEMAND that IMAX 3D experience, Indeed SOME enve demand the 
IMAX 3D experience in "the" optimum seat in the theater(re).

>>> Fun fact. I discovered a, new to me, old song the other day playing on a
>>> radio show with a very limited range, less than about pi miles from home.
>>> Song's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoeHJ0Wqr0 Released: 1975-01-12
>>> I stumbled on to it just 2019-02-12. Been repeatedly listening to it since.
>>> Regret? Some. I bloody hell could've known this song since I was fourteen!
>>
>> Nice photo, but song? Not so much. I guess there has been progress but
>> you are not free of your demons yet!
> 
> Photos, pictures, semi-nude dancers do not make a song. Never have,
> not from my perspective. Indians had music videos long before there
> was MTV. I'll put with some photos-set-to-music, but music must stand
> independent of any imagery placed upon or around it. It's just me.
> 
> Do my demons have names or descriptions? I'm curious to find out.

Demons with no name! Sounds like a song.

> Here's a great video/music combination in English song by The Verve:
> https://tinyurl.com/Verve7638 more than 420+ million views, it has.

450 mil Teens in the world? And now I've added to that number myself. 
Brrr. I find myself misrepresented!

>>> Time==Waqt जो भी तस्वीर बनाता हूँ... something about painting pictures... happens.
>>>
>>>>> He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.
>>>>>
>>>>> All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.
>>>>>
>>>>> To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.
>>>>
>>>> Um...Please explain Kamasutra(y) more?  :-)
>>>
>>> It's an attempt to make rhyme, sounding like Kamasutreee... words are all I have...
>>>
>>> Some complain: All you've got is word salad.
>>> Some complain: All you've got is mathematics.
>>> Some want: Models described in and by pictures.
>>> Some want: Models described in and by equations.
>>
>> Music is mathematics Looprji. Think about that one.
> 
> I wouldn't be thinking about that for the first time either. Music is
> simultaneously very physical. I do try play bamboo flutes. Since that
> makes loud sounds whilst I practice, disturbing hundreds of people that
> per chance might surround me, I rarely practice any more. You're welcome!

Playing Bamboo flute only counts if you'd carved it your self from a 
piece of bamboo you pulled from the ground, Grasshopper. And it helps if 
you speak softly and bear the scars of the temple on hyour forearms.

> The only string instrument I'm good at playing is a tennis racquet.

Sadly that is the ONE instrument I do not play well at all. It was 
always too hard on my elvow joints.

>>> Summize Summe(y)es... how to unite them all and in the darkness bind them?
>>>
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> 

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On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 7:43:54 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> On 2/17/2019 8:56 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 6:19:54 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >> On 2/16/2019 7:52 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >>>> On 2/16/2019 3:38 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:34:33 AM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2/15/2019 7:49 PM, john wrote:
> >>>>>>> Banjo
> >>>>>>> “ As aether is not a fluid, it cannot be bottled and sold for
> >>>>>>> whatever reasons. No one has found a way to carve out aether into
> >>>>>>> anything solid, excepts plants and mothers (in my humble and
> >>>>>>> hopefully in due course uncontroversial opinion). “
> >>>>>>> Aether does not move as the matter moves.
> >>>>>>> It is like the pixels on your TV screen.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nothing ‘makes waves’ in it. There is Space at the next level down
> >>>>>>> made from smaller versions of your Matter and the waves are in and
> >>>>>>> of THAT level matter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How many levels are there? From ground level to... is there even a ground level?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> And the Aether is also how that matter expresses itself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wait a darn second. Aether has a body language, with bits of sign language?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> When the ball gets kicked on your TV screen, the pixels don’t go
> >>>>>>> by it creating a ‘wind’. The ball simply ‘IS’ those pixels when
> >>>>>>> the ball is there, and ‘ISN’T’ again when it it passes.
> >>>>>>> Therefore, Aether has and can never have a ‘wind’.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Everything Banjo has said is totally wrong as usual.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Everything? When it comes to mathematics, he=BanjoJi sounds like you==BenjJi.
> >>>>
> >>>> I of course meant "everything he said in his post" He might actually be
> >>>> right about some things like say the quality of Bollywood songs and
> >>>> Lyrics (though that is not my opinion). Methinks Banjoji sounding like
> >>>> meji is some kind of insult!
> >>>
> >>> I like that, meji! Now I'm wishing I'd written meji Meji MEJI... SelfieMeJi.
> >>> Btw, I'm the one who posts Indian lyrics to this English newsgroup. I do try,
> >>> I suppose, I attempt to fish for persons who may also know them songs/lyrics.
> >>> In music, there's a certain connection amongst those who grew up, with the
> >>> same tunes in mind. Like... I have me my books and poetry to protect me...
> >>
> >> Most books (fiction) and poetry are fantasy (lies). Not much protectoin
> >> there!
> 
> > Simon&Garfunkel(1966)... I have my books and poetry to protect me... I am a rock...
> > 
> > There's non-fiction books, as you well know. You're reading the wrong poetry.
> 
> Non-fiction poetry? Hmmmm. Not familiar with that Simon and Garfunkle tune.

Hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlSVNxLB-A be one more of 7+ million fans.

The line "To be or not to be..." is non-fiction poetry. "2B or not 2B"
is Bugs Bunny contemplating if the room number on the door is correct.

> >>> I also know many here, simply based on what they write. And vice versa...
> >>
> >> Well, THAT is a bad assumption in this troll pit!
> > 
> > I know from trolls and real people discussions. At least, I hope I know.
> > 
> >>> Per dictionary sample: science must be at the service of man, and not vice versa.
> >>
> >> That is up until the present when Science is in the service of politics.
> > 
> > What do you call thousands of politicians drowned at sea? A good start?!
> > Here's a random, out of thin air question. Describe what happens to a dead
> > whale's carcas as it sinks to the bottom of the sea/ocean?
> 
> I thought they washed up o beaches?

Way more, if not most, whales sink dead to the bottom of the ocean/sea than
wash up on beaches.  I like to travel, but not like some of the humans
who have traveled in submersibles to the bottom, something like 11km
deep at one place. BBC Blue Planet said it takes sharks, crabs, ...,
worms like ten years to recycle/devour one carcas. They did it by placing 
cameras around a whale and filmed the devourment. Sharks be very happy!

> >>>>>> He denies all physics data. He denies, relativity, he denies Michelson
> >>>>>> Morley, he denies that matter is aether and he denies light exists. He's
> >>>>>> a real Indian science genius.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Indian science? No such thing, BenjJi. Besides, BanjoJi is now of Australia.
> >>>>> Now that I put the pieces together, a Foster-bitch is a beer drinking chic.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not "Indian Science" Looperji (is that like Jewish Physics? I'll have to
> >>>> think about that one), but science Indian! Get it? As for Foster's, it's
> >>>> said to be a cheap-ass ale, but very drinkable. What does that mean? You
> >>>> ever see any beer that wasn't very drinkable? Sure he lives now in Oz
> >>>> and has to put up with Foster's, but does that take the Indian out of
> >>>> him? I don't think so. It's just like my efforts to turn you into a real
> >>>> Merkin. So long as you are still GaGa over Bollywood trash I've failed
> >>>> miserably.
> >>>
> >>> I ain't nationalistic about me my science. I'm no mere Merkin, should
> >>> they even let me cross their orangish wall. I've never voluntarily
> >>> listened to any Lady Gaga song. Bollywood trash, I'll presume that
> >>> refers to movies, are something I no longer watch. Quality of contents
> >>> was better, in both movies and music, when I was younger. Hollywood too.
> >>
> >> No longer watch movies? Wow! Is that progress or WHAT? I"m not sure
> >> quality has ever been better. A few try hard but the rest just coast.
> >> Movies are all about reflecting styles of the present and trying to use
> >> fantasy to influence the future.
> > 
> > No not really, I'll watch old movies once in a while. Either Hindi or English.
> > I'm trying to go watch the new movie about the late musician Freddie
> > Mercury and the band Queen in Bohemian Rhapsody. Freddie was half-Indian
> > and half-English. Queen's music, just timeless. Brian May is an Astrophysicist.
> 
> Yeah, it was at the local Dollar theater (re) but I just never got 
> around to going to see it even though I wanted too. I figure, hey still 
> online for download. Even though some theater(re) experiences require 
> the big screen and speakers, indeed some even DEMAND the IMAX experience 
> some even DEMAND that IMAX 3D experience, Indeed SOME enve demand the 
> IMAX 3D experience in "the" optimum seat in the theater(re).

The movie Bohemian Rhapsody is too new to be in Dollar theaters. I think.
The last 3D IMAX movie I saw was Star Trek at the National Air and Space Museum.

> >>> Fun fact. I discovered a, new to me, old song the other day playing on a
> >>> radio show with a very limited range, less than about pi miles from home.
> >>> Song's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoeHJ0Wqr0 Released: 1975-01-12
> >>> I stumbled on to it just 2019-02-12. Been repeatedly listening to it since.
> >>> Regret? Some. I bloody hell could've known this song since I was fourteen!
> >>
> >> Nice photo, but song? Not so much. I guess there has been progress but
> >> you are not free of your demons yet!
> > 
> > Photos, pictures, semi-nude dancers do not make a song. Never have,
> > not from my perspective. Indians had music videos long before there
> > was MTV. I'll put with some photos-set-to-music, but music must stand
> > independent of any imagery placed upon or around it. It's just me.
> > 
> > Do my demons have names or descriptions? I'm curious to find out.
> 
> Demons with no name! Sounds like a song.

I'm not gonna google it, you google for it, one of many I presume.
Forbidden topics, Hidden variables... seek with care, be very very quiet.

> > Here's a great video/music combination in English song by The Verve:
> > https://tinyurl.com/Verve7638 more than 420+ million views, it has.
> 
> 450 mil Teens in the world? And now I've added to that number myself. 
> Brrr. I find myself misrepresented!

One does not have to be a teen to love this song by The Verve. Great name Verve.

I have no real actual numbers for the estimate of teens in the world today.

When My Pal John Lennon was asked what he meant by singing "she was just seventeen,
do you know what I mean" he said it's just a rhyme, means nothing really.

> >>> Time==Waqt जो भी तस्वीर बनाता हूँ... something about painting pictures... happens.
> >>>
> >>>>> He's, being ahem... a person and all, would be a real science Indian genius.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All said and done, everyone here is hoping to be doing/talking real science.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To Astrology, Palmistry, Kamasutra(y), add Numerology. Not just for India.
> >>>>
> >>>> Um...Please explain Kamasutra(y) more?  :-)
> >>>
> >>> It's an attempt to make rhyme, sounding like Kamasutreee... words are all I have...
> >>>
> >>> Some complain: All you've got is word salad.
> >>> Some complain: All you've got is mathematics.
> >>> Some want: Models described in and by pictures.
> >>> Some want: Models described in and by equations.
> >>
> >> Music is mathematics Looprji. Think about that one.
> > 
> > I wouldn't be thinking about that for the first time either. Music is
> > simultaneously very physical. I do try play bamboo flutes. Since that
> > makes loud sounds whilst I practice, disturbing hundreds of people that
> > per chance might surround me, I rarely practice any more. You're welcome!
> 
> Playing Bamboo flute only counts if you'd carved it your self from a 
> piece of bamboo you pulled from the ground, Grasshopper. And it helps if 
> you speak softly and bear the scars of the temple on hyour forearms.

When you can take the pebble from my hand, you shall go Grasshopping.

> > The only string instrument I'm good at playing is a tennis racquet.
> 
> Sadly that is the ONE instrument I do not play well at all. It was 
> always too hard on my elvow joints.

Tennis elbow injuries are common among those with bad grips and strokes.

> >>> Summize Summe(y)es... how to unite them all and in the darkness bind them?
> >>>
> >>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!

Three sig lines deep now, time to drift onto another thread. Goin' fishin'.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!

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