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The Origin of Gravity

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First post2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
Last post2018-05-31 10:44 -0700
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  The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 14:28 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 18:01 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:11 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 05:07 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 12:45 +0000
              Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 06:31 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:39 +0000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:49 -0400
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:19 +0000
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:52 -0400
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 21:58 +0000
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 20:56 -0400
    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 17:57 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 01:31 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 04:40 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
      Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 23:52 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 15:54 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:23 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:27 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 06:43 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:35 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 16:28 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:09 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 15:50 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-28 18:35 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 16:22 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-27 20:07 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 13:25 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 17:39 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:05 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:40 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 02:11 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0400
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 23:43 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
                          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
                            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
                              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
                                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
                                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
                                  Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-05 06:56 -0700
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-03 06:51 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 02:01 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 18:11 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:02 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-05-30 11:40 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 20:35 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
            Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
              Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:37 -0700
                Time == Entropy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 09:44 -0700
              Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
                Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                  Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
    Re: The Origin of Gravity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 11:46 -0700
    The Origin of Gravity sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 20:10 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 22:03 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:10 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-06-01 20:00 +0000
            Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:06 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:07 -0400
      Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-31 10:44 -0700

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#686887

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-732795.06582924052018@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#686886
In article <1npb6k2.18argbkcyja01N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
 snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1npavmz.qpov5d1nag2b9N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
> >  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > 
> > > Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <YtsNC.197447$bS4.15624@fx01.iad>, 
> > > > benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Utter nonsense.
> > > > > There was no Big Bang.
> > > > 
> > > > A Timorous Whimper?
> > > 
> > > I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
> > 
> > This is how the world ends.
> > This is how the world ends.
> > Not with a hotdog
> > but with a Wimpy.
> > 
> > Do create another world later today: I'm trying to finish some software.
> 
> This week's World is now 01'23" old.

If it's already over a foot, it should reach the whole nine yards by nightfall.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
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I'm saving up to buy the Donald a blue stone      This post         / \
from Metebelis 3. All praise the Great Don!       insults Islam.  Mohammed

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#686903

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
Message-ID<5B06DB1C.4399@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#686885
Siri Cruise wrote:
> 
> In article <1npavmz.qpov5d1nag2b9N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
>  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> 
> > Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <YtsNC.197447$bS4.15624@fx01.iad>, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Utter nonsense.
> > > > There was no Big Bang.
> > >
> > > A Timorous Whimper?
> >
> > I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
> 
> This is how the world ends.
> This is how the world ends.
> Not with a hotdog
> but with a Wimpy.
> 
> Do create another world later today: I'm trying to finish some software.


wat kind of software , a virus? a scrapper??

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#686909

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-3B237B.08542824052018@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#686903
In article <5B06DB1C.4399@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Siri Cruise wrote:
> > 
> > In article <1npavmz.qpov5d1nag2b9N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
> >  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > 
> > > Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <YtsNC.197447$bS4.15624@fx01.iad>, benj <benj@nobody.net> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Utter nonsense.
> > > > > There was no Big Bang.
> > > >
> > > > A Timorous Whimper?
> > >
> > > I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
> > 
> > This is how the world ends.
> > This is how the world ends.
> > Not with a hotdog
> > but with a Wimpy.
> > 
> > Do create another world later today: I'm trying to finish some software.
> 
> 
> wat kind of software , a virus? a scrapper??

A kind of parser.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                                    /|\
I'm saving up to buy the Donald a blue stone      This post         / \
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#686902

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
Message-ID<5B06DA8B.49D9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#686872
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The problem with describing
> >> The Origin of Gravity is
> >> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>
> >> math won't do..
> >>
> >> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>
> >> before the big bang...
> >>
> >> stars in the universe were like..
> >> a dozen eggs.
> >>
> >> All laid out next to each other
> >> side by side...evenly.
> >>
> >> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >>
> >> without breaking
> >>
> >> you need gravity to hold each one
> >>
> >> to stop it from breaking..
> >>
> >> Now,
> >>
> >> The Origin of Gravity
> >>
> >> is what kept the eggs
> >>
> >> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >>
> >> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >>
> >> and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >>
> >> The problem with describing
> >> The Origin of Gravity is
> >> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>
> >> math won't do..
> >>
> >> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>
> >> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >
> >
> > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >
> >
> > let's take a dozen eggs...
> >
> > all laid out next to each other
> > side by side...evenly.
> >
> > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >
> > Now open the box of eggs and
> > turn it upside down so they can all
> > fall down..
> >
> > you look on the floor and you got this
> > big mess..
> >
> > eggs everywhere..
> >
> > but, before they were all
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> >
> > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >
> > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >
> > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > galaxies...
> >
> > but, but...
> >
> > before the big bang..
> > all stars were
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> >
> > and during the big bang they
> > all went out in a straight line..
> >
> > but looking at the universe today...
> >
> > it appears they are all scattered out..
> >
> > but they are not.
> >
> > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >
> > so, what
> > laid out the stars next to each other
> > side by side, evenly?
> >
> >
> > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >
> > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     *    *
> >             *
> >                  *
> >                         *
> >                 *
> >                       *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >
> >
> >   *    .  *       .             *
> >                           *
> >   *   .        *       .       .       *
> >     .     *
> >             .     .  *        *
> >         .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                               .
> >           *          .   *
> > *    *
> >             *
> >                  *
> >   .    .                  *
> >                 *
> >                       *
> > .        .
> >
> > *    .  *       .             *
> >                           *
> >   *   .        *       .       .       *
> >     .     *
> >             .     .  *        *
> >         .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                               .
> >           *          .   *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > from order to disorder..
> 
> Utter nonsense.
> There was no Big Bang.

I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.


The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..

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#686910

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
Message-ID<jfBNC.198159$1e7.37131@fx38.iad>
In reply to#686902
On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The problem with describing
>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>
>>>> math won't do..
>>>>
>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>
>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>
>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>
>>>> All laid out next to each other
>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>
>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
>>>>
>>>> without breaking
>>>>
>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
>>>>
>>>> to stop it from breaking..
>>>>
>>>> Now,
>>>>
>>>> The Origin of Gravity
>>>>
>>>> is what kept the eggs
>>>>
>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
>>>>
>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
>>>>
>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with describing
>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>
>>>> math won't do..
>>>>
>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>
>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
>>>
>>>
>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
>>>
>>>
>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
>>>
>>> all laid out next to each other
>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>
>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
>>>
>>> Now open the box of eggs and
>>> turn it upside down so they can all
>>> fall down..
>>>
>>> you look on the floor and you got this
>>> big mess..
>>>
>>> eggs everywhere..
>>>
>>> but, before they were all
>>> laid out next to each other
>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>
>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
>>>
>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
>>>
>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
>>> galaxies...
>>>
>>> but, but...
>>>
>>> before the big bang..
>>> all stars were
>>> laid out next to each other
>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>
>>> and during the big bang they
>>> all went out in a straight line..
>>>
>>> but looking at the universe today...
>>>
>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
>>>
>>> but they are not.
>>>
>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
>>>
>>> so, what
>>> laid out the stars next to each other
>>> side by side, evenly?
>>>
>>>
>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
>>>
>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
>>>
>>>
>>> *      *       *       *
>>>
>>> *      *       *       *
>>>
>>> *      *       *       *
>>>
>>> *      *       *       *
>>>
>>> *      *       *       *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      *    *
>>>              *
>>>                   *
>>>                          *
>>>                  *
>>>                        *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
>>>
>>>
>>>    *    .  *       .             *
>>>                            *
>>>    *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>      .     *
>>>              .     .  *        *
>>>          .                .        .
>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>                                .
>>>            *          .   *
>>> *    *
>>>              *
>>>                   *
>>>    .    .                  *
>>>                  *
>>>                        *
>>> .        .
>>>
>>> *    .  *       .             *
>>>                            *
>>>    *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>      .     *
>>>              .     .  *        *
>>>          .                .        .
>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>                                .
>>>            *          .   *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> from order to disorder..
>>
>> Utter nonsense.
>> There was no Big Bang.
> 
> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
> 
> 
> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
> 
And the way you know today is steady state would be?
You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
Give it up.

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#686975

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
Message-ID<5B07503A.7716@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#686910
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem with describing
> >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>
> >>>> math won't do..
> >>>>
> >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>
> >>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>
> >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>
> >>>> All laid out next to each other
> >>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>
> >>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >>>>
> >>>> without breaking
> >>>>
> >>>> you need gravity to hold each one
> >>>>
> >>>> to stop it from breaking..
> >>>>
> >>>> Now,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Origin of Gravity
> >>>>
> >>>> is what kept the eggs
> >>>>
> >>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >>>>
> >>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem with describing
> >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>
> >>>> math won't do..
> >>>>
> >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>
> >>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> let's take a dozen eggs...
> >>>
> >>> all laid out next to each other
> >>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>
> >>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >>>
> >>> Now open the box of eggs and
> >>> turn it upside down so they can all
> >>> fall down..
> >>>
> >>> you look on the floor and you got this
> >>> big mess..
> >>>
> >>> eggs everywhere..
> >>>
> >>> but, before they were all
> >>> laid out next to each other
> >>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>
> >>> and then they fell out of the box...but
> >>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >>>
> >>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >>>
> >>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> >>> galaxies...
> >>>
> >>> but, but...
> >>>
> >>> before the big bang..
> >>> all stars were
> >>> laid out next to each other
> >>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>
> >>> and during the big bang they
> >>> all went out in a straight line..
> >>>
> >>> but looking at the universe today...
> >>>
> >>> it appears they are all scattered out..
> >>>
> >>> but they are not.
> >>>
> >>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >>>
> >>> so, what
> >>> laid out the stars next to each other
> >>> side by side, evenly?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >>>
> >>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *      *       *       *
> >>>
> >>> *      *       *       *
> >>>
> >>> *      *       *       *
> >>>
> >>> *      *       *       *
> >>>
> >>> *      *       *       *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      *    *
> >>>              *
> >>>                   *
> >>>                          *
> >>>                  *
> >>>                        *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    *    .  *       .             *
> >>>                            *
> >>>    *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>      .     *
> >>>              .     .  *        *
> >>>          .                .        .
> >>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>                                .
> >>>            *          .   *
> >>> *    *
> >>>              *
> >>>                   *
> >>>    .    .                  *
> >>>                  *
> >>>                        *
> >>> .        .
> >>>
> >>> *    .  *       .             *
> >>>                            *
> >>>    *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>      .     *
> >>>              .     .  *        *
> >>>          .                .        .
> >>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>                                .
> >>>            *          .   *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> from order to disorder..
> >>
> >> Utter nonsense.
> >> There was no Big Bang.
> >
> > I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
> >
> >
> > The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
> >
> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
> Give it up.


I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..

i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."


"from"! Do you know the definition of from?

and "to".



from and to


Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????

I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...

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#686984

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
Message-ID<tYINC.192923$RM2.88945@fx05.iad>
In reply to#686975
On 5/24/2018 7:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All laid out next to each other
>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> without breaking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is what kept the eggs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
>>>>>
>>>>> all laid out next to each other
>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
>>>>>
>>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
>>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
>>>>> fall down..
>>>>>
>>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
>>>>> big mess..
>>>>>
>>>>> eggs everywhere..
>>>>>
>>>>> but, before they were all
>>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>>
>>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
>>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
>>>>>
>>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
>>>>>
>>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
>>>>> galaxies...
>>>>>
>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>
>>>>> before the big bang..
>>>>> all stars were
>>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>>
>>>>> and during the big bang they
>>>>> all went out in a straight line..
>>>>>
>>>>> but looking at the universe today...
>>>>>
>>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
>>>>>
>>>>> but they are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
>>>>>
>>>>> so, what
>>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
>>>>> side by side, evenly?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>
>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>
>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>
>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>
>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       *    *
>>>>>               *
>>>>>                    *
>>>>>                           *
>>>>>                   *
>>>>>                         *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     *    .  *       .             *
>>>>>                             *
>>>>>     *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>>       .     *
>>>>>               .     .  *        *
>>>>>           .                .        .
>>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>>                                 .
>>>>>             *          .   *
>>>>> *    *
>>>>>               *
>>>>>                    *
>>>>>     .    .                  *
>>>>>                   *
>>>>>                         *
>>>>> .        .
>>>>>
>>>>> *    .  *       .             *
>>>>>                             *
>>>>>     *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>>       .     *
>>>>>               .     .  *        *
>>>>>           .                .        .
>>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>>                                 .
>>>>>             *          .   *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> from order to disorder..
>>>>
>>>> Utter nonsense.
>>>> There was no Big Bang.
>>>
>>> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
>>>
>>>
>>> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
>>>
>> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
>> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
>> Give it up.
> 
> 
> I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..
> 
> i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."
> 
> 
> "from"! Do you know the definition of from?
> 
> and "to".
> 
> 
> 
> from and to
> 
> 
> Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????
> 
> I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...
> 

Don't try to change the subject, faker. It's not a matter of "from" and 
"to" it is a matter of you drooling one about thing of which you have no 
knowledge whatsoever. As a lib you think if you can imagine it, that 
makes it reality. Just lay off your stash for a while, Faker.

The BB is supposed to be a SINGULARITY. You have no idea what that 
fantasy is. I suggest you learn and then come back here.

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#687009

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
Message-ID<5B079D86.60D3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#686984
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/24/2018 7:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All laid out next to each other
> >>>>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> without breaking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> is what kept the eggs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> all laid out next to each other
> >>>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
> >>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
> >>>>> fall down..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
> >>>>> big mess..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> eggs everywhere..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but, before they were all
> >>>>> laid out next to each other
> >>>>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
> >>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> >>>>> galaxies...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but, but...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>> all stars were
> >>>>> laid out next to each other
> >>>>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and during the big bang they
> >>>>> all went out in a straight line..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but looking at the universe today...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but they are not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> so, what
> >>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
> >>>>> side by side, evenly?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       *    *
> >>>>>               *
> >>>>>                    *
> >>>>>                           *
> >>>>>                   *
> >>>>>                         *
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *    .  *       .             *
> >>>>>                             *
> >>>>>     *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>>>       .     *
> >>>>>               .     .  *        *
> >>>>>           .                .        .
> >>>>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>>>                                 .
> >>>>>             *          .   *
> >>>>> *    *
> >>>>>               *
> >>>>>                    *
> >>>>>     .    .                  *
> >>>>>                   *
> >>>>>                         *
> >>>>> .        .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *    .  *       .             *
> >>>>>                             *
> >>>>>     *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>>>       .     *
> >>>>>               .     .  *        *
> >>>>>           .                .        .
> >>>>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>>>                                 .
> >>>>>             *          .   *
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> from order to disorder..
> >>>>
> >>>> Utter nonsense.
> >>>> There was no Big Bang.
> >>>
> >>> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
> >>>
> >> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
> >> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
> >> Give it up.
> >
> >
> > I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..
> >
> > i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."
> >
> >
> > "from"! Do you know the definition of from?
> >
> > and "to".
> >
> >
> >
> > from and to
> >
> >
> > Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????
> >
> > I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...
> >
> 
> Don't try to change the subject, faker. It's not a matter of "from" and
> "to" it is a matter of you drooling one about thing of which you have no
> knowledge whatsoever. As a lib you think if you can imagine it, that
> makes it reality. Just lay off your stash for a while, Faker.
> 
> The BB is supposed to be a SINGULARITY. You have no idea what that
> fantasy is. I suggest you learn and then come back here.



SINGULARITY????  Where do you get your info from...scientist? Where did they get their info from?? a catholic priest??

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#687040

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
Message-ID<KnVNC.199742$1e7.97751@fx38.iad>
In reply to#687009
On 5/25/2018 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2018 7:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> benj wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All laid out next to each other
>>>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> without breaking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is what kept the eggs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all laid out next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
>>>>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
>>>>>>> fall down..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
>>>>>>> big mess..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eggs everywhere..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, before they were all
>>>>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
>>>>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
>>>>>>> galaxies...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> before the big bang..
>>>>>>> all stars were
>>>>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and during the big bang they
>>>>>>> all went out in a straight line..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but looking at the universe today...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but they are not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so, what
>>>>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side, evenly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        *    *
>>>>>>>                *
>>>>>>>                     *
>>>>>>>                            *
>>>>>>>                    *
>>>>>>>                          *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *    .  *       .             *
>>>>>>>                              *
>>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>>>>        .     *
>>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
>>>>>>>            .                .        .
>>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>>>>                                  .
>>>>>>>              *          .   *
>>>>>>> *    *
>>>>>>>                *
>>>>>>>                     *
>>>>>>>      .    .                  *
>>>>>>>                    *
>>>>>>>                          *
>>>>>>> .        .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *    .  *       .             *
>>>>>>>                              *
>>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>>>>        .     *
>>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
>>>>>>>            .                .        .
>>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>>>>                                  .
>>>>>>>              *          .   *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from order to disorder..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Utter nonsense.
>>>>>> There was no Big Bang.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
>>>>>
>>>> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
>>>> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
>>>> Give it up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..
>>>
>>> i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."
>>>
>>>
>>> "from"! Do you know the definition of from?
>>>
>>> and "to".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> from and to
>>>
>>>
>>> Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????
>>>
>>> I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...
>>>
>>
>> Don't try to change the subject, faker. It's not a matter of "from" and
>> "to" it is a matter of you drooling one about thing of which you have no
>> knowledge whatsoever. As a lib you think if you can imagine it, that
>> makes it reality. Just lay off your stash for a while, Faker.
>>
>> The BB is supposed to be a SINGULARITY. You have no idea what that
>> fantasy is. I suggest you learn and then come back here.
> 
> 
> 
> SINGULARITY????  Where do you get your info from...scientist? Where did they get their info from?? a catholic priest??
> 
Today in science they mostly get it the same place you get yours: Drug 
induced fantasies. This is the Lib idea of what "science" is, right?

Faker get it through your pointy head that a lib CANNOT bullshit their 
way through science. It's not possible. Eventually reality catches up 
with you.

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#687075

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
Message-ID<5B085C43.78E2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687040
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/25/2018 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/24/2018 7:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> benj wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> without breaking
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Now,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> is what kept the eggs
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> all laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
> >>>>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
> >>>>>>> fall down..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
> >>>>>>> big mess..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> eggs everywhere..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but, before they were all
> >>>>>>> laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
> >>>>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> >>>>>>> galaxies...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but, but...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>> all stars were
> >>>>>>> laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and during the big bang they
> >>>>>>> all went out in a straight line..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but looking at the universe today...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but they are not.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> so, what
> >>>>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side, evenly?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>        *    *
> >>>>>>>                *
> >>>>>>>                     *
> >>>>>>>                            *
> >>>>>>>                    *
> >>>>>>>                          *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      *    .  *       .             *
> >>>>>>>                              *
> >>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>>>>>        .     *
> >>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
> >>>>>>>            .                .        .
> >>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>>>>>                                  .
> >>>>>>>              *          .   *
> >>>>>>> *    *
> >>>>>>>                *
> >>>>>>>                     *
> >>>>>>>      .    .                  *
> >>>>>>>                    *
> >>>>>>>                          *
> >>>>>>> .        .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *    .  *       .             *
> >>>>>>>                              *
> >>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>>>>>        .     *
> >>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
> >>>>>>>            .                .        .
> >>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>>>>>                                  .
> >>>>>>>              *          .   *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> from order to disorder..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Utter nonsense.
> >>>>>> There was no Big Bang.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
> >>>>>
> >>>> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
> >>>> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
> >>>> Give it up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..
> >>>
> >>> i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "from"! Do you know the definition of from?
> >>>
> >>> and "to".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> from and to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????
> >>>
> >>> I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...
> >>>
> >>
> >> Don't try to change the subject, faker. It's not a matter of "from" and
> >> "to" it is a matter of you drooling one about thing of which you have no
> >> knowledge whatsoever. As a lib you think if you can imagine it, that
> >> makes it reality. Just lay off your stash for a while, Faker.
> >>
> >> The BB is supposed to be a SINGULARITY. You have no idea what that
> >> fantasy is. I suggest you learn and then come back here.
> >
> >
> >
> > SINGULARITY????  Where do you get your info from...scientist? Where did they get their info from?? a catholic priest??
> >
> Today in science they mostly get it the same place you get yours: Drug
> induced fantasies. This is the Lib idea of what "science" is, right?
> 
> Faker get it through your pointy head that a lib CANNOT bullshit their
> way through science. It's not possible. Eventually reality catches up
> with you.


you keep using "lib" in your statements...wat is dat?

which one is it? Let It Bleed???? Lithium-Ion Battery? 



LIB	Library
LIB	Library (File Name Extension)
LIB	Let It Be (Beatles album)
LIB	Liberal Party (Canada)
LIB	Libertarian Party (United States)
LIB	Label Information Base (MPLS)
LIB	Let It Bleed (Rolling Stones album)
LIB	Light Infantry Brigade
LIB	League of Illinois Bicyclists (Aurora, IL)
LIB	Laser Induced Breakdown
LIB	limited international bidding
LIB	Linear Incremental Backoff
LIB	Linguistic Intergroup Bias (language use in intergroup contexts)
LIB	Less Important Bits (communications channel)
LIB	Lockton Insurance Brokers (California)
LIB	Left In Board (locations of aircraft underwing pylons)
LIB	Logistics Information Board
LIB	Living in Black
LIB	Lithium-Ion Battery
LIB	Lead Impression Block (well drilling)

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#686911

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-3F07A6.08555224052018@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#686902
In article <5B06DA8B.49D9@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in 
> terms that you can understand.
> 
> 
> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..

The steady state universe was less than atom's breadth wide.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                                    /|\
I'm saving up to buy the Donald a blue stone      This post         / \
from Metebelis 3. All praise the Great Don!       insults Islam.  Mohammed

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#687683

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
Message-ID<fn5jhuF6da3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686872
Am 24.05.2018 um 07:55 schrieb benj:
..
>>
>>
>> from order to disorder..
> 
> Utter nonsense.
> There was no Big Bang.

I'm also an opponent of 'big-bang theory'.

I have an entirely different concept. The main idea is, that time is a 
local measure and has kind of 'axis'.

This axis could tilt and if so, the tilted axis would take an entire 
universe with it.

This would look like a big bang from the 'other side'. But the bang is 
'relative' and depending on the axis of time.

That 'entire' universe is not really universal, but also relative.

'Big bang' is similar to a black hole, but seen from the other side.

Black holes - btw- are also 'relative' and kind of optical illusion, 
too, (like big bang).

If you are interested, here is the long version:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6

It is mainly based on the version of relativity from Hermann Minkowski 
and a mathematical construct called 'Pauli algebra' with complex for 
vectors.


TH

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#686879

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-05-23 23:52 -0700
Message-ID<5e16ca3e-0b2a-4741-bc5d-5ce14eed3e5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#686858
On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 5:12:56 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The problem with describing
> > The Origin of Gravity is
> > using 'words' to describe it..
> > 
> > math won't do..
> > 
> > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > 
> > before the big bang...
> > 
> > stars in the universe were like..
> > a dozen eggs.
> > 
> > All laid out next to each other
> > side by side...evenly.
> > 
> > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> > 
> > without breaking
> > 
> > you need gravity to hold each one
> > 
> > to stop it from breaking..
> > 
> > Now,
> > 
> > The Origin of Gravity
> > 
> > is what kept the eggs
> > 
> > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> > 
> > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> > 
> > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> > 
> > The problem with describing
> > The Origin of Gravity is
> > using 'words' to describe it..
> > 
> > math won't do..
> > 
> > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > 
> > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> 
> 
> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> 
> 
> let's take a dozen eggs...
> 
> all laid out next to each other
> side by side...evenly.
> 
> That is how it looked before the big bang..
> 
> Now open the box of eggs and
> turn it upside down so they can all
> fall down..
> 
> you look on the floor and you got this 
> big mess..
> 
> eggs everywhere..
> 
> but, before they were all
> laid out next to each other
> side by side, evenly...
> 
> and then they fell out of the box...but
> each egg fell out in a straight line.
> 
> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> 
> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> galaxies...
> 
> but, but...
> 
> before the big bang..
> all stars were 
> laid out next to each other
> side by side, evenly...
> 
> and during the big bang they
> all went out in a straight line..
> 
> but looking at the universe today...
> 
> it appears they are all scattered out..
> 
> but they are not.
> 
> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> 
> so, what 
> laid out the stars next to each other
> side by side, evenly?
> 
> 
> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> 
> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> 
> 
> *      *       *       *        
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> 
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
>    *    *
>            *
>                 *
>                        *
>                *
>                      *
> 
> 
>     
> 
> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> 
> 
>  *    .  *       .             *
>                          *
>  *   .        *       .       .       *
>    .     *
>            .     .  *        *
>        .                .        .
> .  *           *                     *
>                              .
>          *          .   *
> *    *
>            *                    
>                 *
>  .    .                  *    
>                *
>                      *
> .        .                       
> 
> *    .  *       .             *
>                          *
>  *   .        *       .       .       *
>    .     *
>            .     .  *        *
>        .                .        .
> .  *           *                     *
>                              .
>          *          .   *
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> from order to disorder..

===================
and again for all the above blockhead parrots "
========================================

MASS ** IS THE'MOTHER ' /SOURCE OF ALL FORCES -
INCLUDING GRAVITY !!!
==================================
is it so difficult even for parrots 
to understand such a n obvious fact??
even if not written in their common books ??
2
just think about it
suppose you are a detective for criminal cases 
so
and examine another 'crime 
and yet suppose 
you find some crime and examine it 
to find who is the 'criminal ??

now your examinations show that
at*** all**the above cases you find always 
that in all those cases 
a guy called Mr x was found attending next
while that crime was done 

now just start  think(for a change think!!:
who might be the ''person' you might start to be think/suspect   that is involved '' in all *those crimes ''??!!


no need to be a genius in order to think about it   
3
it is always that wile you find ***any! force
you find Mr MASS '' NEXT TO IT 
closer or even not very close !!
but ALLWAYS  'MR MASS IS NEXT!!
A
DOES IT **CLICK*SOMETHING IN YOUR beginner  DETECTOR'' MIND ???!!!

common block heads !!
does it need another 100 years for you
to wake up ???!!
=======================================
TIA
Y.Porat 
=======================
 
  

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#686977

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
Message-ID<5B075702.4737@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#686858
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The problem with describing
> > The Origin of Gravity is
> > using 'words' to describe it..
> >
> > math won't do..
> >
> > and it is very differcult to picture..
> >
> > before the big bang...
> >
> > stars in the universe were like..
> > a dozen eggs.
> >
> > All laid out next to each other
> > side by side...evenly.
> >
> > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >
> > without breaking
> >
> > you need gravity to hold each one
> >
> > to stop it from breaking..
> >
> > Now,
> >
> > The Origin of Gravity
> >
> > is what kept the eggs
> >
> > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >
> > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >
> > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >
> > The problem with describing
> > The Origin of Gravity is
> > using 'words' to describe it..
> >
> > math won't do..
> >
> > and it is very differcult to picture..
> >
> > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> 
> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> 
> let's take a dozen eggs...
> 
> all laid out next to each other
> side by side...evenly.
> 
> That is how it looked before the big bang..
> 
> Now open the box of eggs and
> turn it upside down so they can all
> fall down..
> 
> you look on the floor and you got this
> big mess..
> 
> eggs everywhere..
> 
> but, before they were all
> laid out next to each other
> side by side, evenly...
> 
> and then they fell out of the box...but
> each egg fell out in a straight line.
> 
> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> 
> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> galaxies...
> 
> but, but...
> 
> before the big bang..
> all stars were
> laid out next to each other
> side by side, evenly...
> 
> and during the big bang they
> all went out in a straight line..
> 
> but looking at the universe today...
> 
> it appears they are all scattered out..
> 
> but they are not.
> 
> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> 
> so, what
> laid out the stars next to each other
> side by side, evenly?
> 
> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> 
> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> *      *       *       *
> 
> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> 
> 
> 
>    *    *
>            *
>                 *
>                        *
>                *
>                      *
> 
> 
> 
> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> 
>  *    .  *       .             *
>                          *
>  *   .        *       .       .       *
>    .     *
>            .     .  *        *
>        .                .        .
> .  *           *                     *
>                              .
>          *          .   *
> *    *
>            *
>                 *
>  .    .                  *
>                *
>                      *
> .        .
> 
> *    .  *       .             *
>                          *
>  *   .        *       .       .       *
>    .     *
>            .     .  *        *
>        .                .        .
> .  *           *                     *
>                              .
>          *          .   *
> 
> from order to disorder..


Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.

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#687053

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
Message-ID<a9732920-3a70-4228-92f0-24b9fada209e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#686977
On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 3:20:59 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem with describing
> > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > >
> > > math won't do..
> > >
> > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > >
> > > before the big bang...
> > >
> > > stars in the universe were like..
> > > a dozen eggs.
> > >
> > > All laid out next to each other
> > > side by side...evenly.
> > >
> > > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> > >
> > > without breaking
> > >
> > > you need gravity to hold each one
> > >
> > > to stop it from breaking..
> > >
> > > Now,
> > >
> > > The Origin of Gravity
> > >
> > > is what kept the eggs
> > >
> > > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> > >
> > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> > >
> > > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> > >
> > > The problem with describing
> > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > >
> > > math won't do..
> > >
> > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > >
> > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> > 
> > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> > 
> > let's take a dozen eggs...
> > 
> > all laid out next to each other
> > side by side...evenly.
> > 
> > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> > 
> > Now open the box of eggs and
> > turn it upside down so they can all
> > fall down..
> > 
> > you look on the floor and you got this
> > big mess..
> > 
> > eggs everywhere..
> > 
> > but, before they were all
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> > 
> > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> > 
> > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> > 
> > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > galaxies...
> > 
> > but, but...
> > 
> > before the big bang..
> > all stars were
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> > 
> > and during the big bang they
> > all went out in a straight line..
> > 
> > but looking at the universe today...
> > 
> > it appears they are all scattered out..
> > 
> > but they are not.
> > 
> > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> > 
> > so, what
> > laid out the stars next to each other
> > side by side, evenly?
> > 
> > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> > 
> > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> > 
> > *      *       *       *
> > 
> > *      *       *       *
> > 
> > *      *       *       *
> > 
> > *      *       *       *
> > 
> > *      *       *       *
> > 
> > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    *    *
> >            *
> >                 *
> >                        *
> >                *
> >                      *
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> > 
> >  *    .  *       .             *
> >                          *
> >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> >    .     *
> >            .     .  *        *
> >        .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                              .
> >          *          .   *
> > *    *
> >            *
> >                 *
> >  .    .                  *
> >                *
> >                      *
> > .        .
> > 
> > *    .  *       .             *
> >                          *
> >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> >    .     *
> >            .     .  *        *
> >        .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                              .
> >          *          .   *
> > 
> > from order to disorder..
> 
> 
> Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.

======================
not all of them 
the Y Circlon does not move in straight lines …
2
the ;'mother' of that y circlon is …. MASS 
=====
Y.Porat
===================

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#687093

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<5B087D4F.45E9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#686977
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem with describing
> > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > >
> > > math won't do..
> > >
> > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > >
> > > before the big bang...
> > >
> > > stars in the universe were like..
> > > a dozen eggs.
> > >
> > > All laid out next to each other
> > > side by side...evenly.
> > >
> > > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> > >
> > > without breaking
> > >
> > > you need gravity to hold each one
> > >
> > > to stop it from breaking..
> > >
> > > Now,
> > >
> > > The Origin of Gravity
> > >
> > > is what kept the eggs
> > >
> > > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> > >
> > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> > >
> > > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> > >
> > > The problem with describing
> > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > >
> > > math won't do..
> > >
> > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > >
> > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >
> > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >
> > let's take a dozen eggs...
> >
> > all laid out next to each other
> > side by side...evenly.
> >
> > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >
> > Now open the box of eggs and
> > turn it upside down so they can all
> > fall down..
> >
> > you look on the floor and you got this
> > big mess..
> >
> > eggs everywhere..
> >
> > but, before they were all
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> >
> > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >
> > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >
> > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > galaxies...
> >
> > but, but...
> >
> > before the big bang..
> > all stars were
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> >
> > and during the big bang they
> > all went out in a straight line..
> >
> > but looking at the universe today...
> >
> > it appears they are all scattered out..
> >
> > but they are not.
> >
> > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >
> > so, what
> > laid out the stars next to each other
> > side by side, evenly?
> >
> > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >
> > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >
> >
> >
> >    *    *
> >            *
> >                 *
> >                        *
> >                *
> >                      *
> >
> >
> >
> > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >
> >  *    .  *       .             *
> >                          *
> >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> >    .     *
> >            .     .  *        *
> >        .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                              .
> >          *          .   *
> > *    *
> >            *
> >                 *
> >  .    .                  *
> >                *
> >                      *
> > .        .
> >
> > *    .  *       .             *
> >                          *
> >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> >    .     *
> >            .     .  *        *
> >        .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                              .
> >          *          .   *
> >
> > from order to disorder..
> 
> Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.

There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels...

for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter..

matter was created BEFORE the big bang...

matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it.


i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that.


It seems you people hit a wall or something...


you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang.


I'm astounded.

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#687097

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
Message-ID<5B08817D.3390@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687093
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The problem with describing
> > > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > > >
> > > > math won't do..
> > > >
> > > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > >
> > > > before the big bang...
> > > >
> > > > stars in the universe were like..
> > > > a dozen eggs.
> > > >
> > > > All laid out next to each other
> > > > side by side...evenly.
> > > >
> > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> > > >
> > > > without breaking
> > > >
> > > > you need gravity to hold each one
> > > >
> > > > to stop it from breaking..
> > > >
> > > > Now,
> > > >
> > > > The Origin of Gravity
> > > >
> > > > is what kept the eggs
> > > >
> > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> > > >
> > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> > > >
> > > > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with describing
> > > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > > >
> > > > math won't do..
> > > >
> > > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > >
> > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> > >
> > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> > >
> > > let's take a dozen eggs...
> > >
> > > all laid out next to each other
> > > side by side...evenly.
> > >
> > > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> > >
> > > Now open the box of eggs and
> > > turn it upside down so they can all
> > > fall down..
> > >
> > > you look on the floor and you got this
> > > big mess..
> > >
> > > eggs everywhere..
> > >
> > > but, before they were all
> > > laid out next to each other
> > > side by side, evenly...
> > >
> > > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> > >
> > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> > >
> > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > > galaxies...
> > >
> > > but, but...
> > >
> > > before the big bang..
> > > all stars were
> > > laid out next to each other
> > > side by side, evenly...
> > >
> > > and during the big bang they
> > > all went out in a straight line..
> > >
> > > but looking at the universe today...
> > >
> > > it appears they are all scattered out..
> > >
> > > but they are not.
> > >
> > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> > >
> > > so, what
> > > laid out the stars next to each other
> > > side by side, evenly?
> > >
> > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> > >
> > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> > >
> > > *      *       *       *
> > >
> > > *      *       *       *
> > >
> > > *      *       *       *
> > >
> > > *      *       *       *
> > >
> > > *      *       *       *
> > >
> > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    *    *
> > >            *
> > >                 *
> > >                        *
> > >                *
> > >                      *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> > >
> > >  *    .  *       .             *
> > >                          *
> > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > >    .     *
> > >            .     .  *        *
> > >        .                .        .
> > > .  *           *                     *
> > >                              .
> > >          *          .   *
> > > *    *
> > >            *
> > >                 *
> > >  .    .                  *
> > >                *
> > >                      *
> > > .        .
> > >
> > > *    .  *       .             *
> > >                          *
> > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > >    .     *
> > >            .     .  *        *
> > >        .                .        .
> > > .  *           *                     *
> > >                              .
> > >          *          .   *
> > >
> > > from order to disorder..
> >
> > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.
> 
> There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels...
> 
> for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter..
> 
> matter was created BEFORE the big bang...
> 
> matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it.
> 
> i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that.
> 
> It seems you people hit a wall or something...
> 
> you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang.
> 
> I'm astounded.



the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light
travels in a straight line. 

And light created matter.

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#687111

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
Message-ID<P_%NC.109236$oR2.25748@fx25.iad>
In reply to#687097
On 5/25/2018 5:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>
>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>
>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>
>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>
>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>>
>>>>> All laid out next to each other
>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>
>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
>>>>>
>>>>> without breaking
>>>>>
>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
>>>>>
>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
>>>>>
>>>>> Now,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
>>>>>
>>>>> is what kept the eggs
>>>>>
>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
>>>>>
>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>
>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>
>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>
>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
>>>>
>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
>>>>
>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
>>>>
>>>> all laid out next to each other
>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>
>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
>>>>
>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
>>>> fall down..
>>>>
>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
>>>> big mess..
>>>>
>>>> eggs everywhere..
>>>>
>>>> but, before they were all
>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>
>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
>>>>
>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
>>>>
>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
>>>> galaxies...
>>>>
>>>> but, but...
>>>>
>>>> before the big bang..
>>>> all stars were
>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>
>>>> and during the big bang they
>>>> all went out in a straight line..
>>>>
>>>> but looking at the universe today...
>>>>
>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
>>>>
>>>> but they are not.
>>>>
>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
>>>>
>>>> so, what
>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
>>>> side by side, evenly?
>>>>
>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
>>>>
>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
>>>>
>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>
>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>
>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>
>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>
>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>
>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     *    *
>>>>             *
>>>>                  *
>>>>                         *
>>>>                 *
>>>>                       *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
>>>>
>>>>   *    .  *       .             *
>>>>                           *
>>>>   *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>     .     *
>>>>             .     .  *        *
>>>>         .                .        .
>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>                               .
>>>>           *          .   *
>>>> *    *
>>>>             *
>>>>                  *
>>>>   .    .                  *
>>>>                 *
>>>>                       *
>>>> .        .
>>>>
>>>> *    .  *       .             *
>>>>                           *
>>>>   *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>     .     *
>>>>             .     .  *        *
>>>>         .                .        .
>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>                               .
>>>>           *          .   *
>>>>
>>>> from order to disorder..
>>>
>>> Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.
>>
>> There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels...
>>
>> for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter..
>>
>> matter was created BEFORE the big bang...
>>
>> matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it.
>>
>> i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that.
>>
>> It seems you people hit a wall or something...
>>
>> you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang.
>>
>> I'm astounded.
> 
> 
> 
> the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light
> travels in a straight line.
> 
> And light created matter.
> 
Obvious ignorant blather. Hey Faker, you been taking lessons from Mitch 
again? This is his style of drool.

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#687379

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
Message-ID<5B0B15F6.19B7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687097
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with describing
> > > > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > >
> > > > > math won't do..
> > > > >
> > > > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > >
> > > > > before the big bang...
> > > > >
> > > > > stars in the universe were like..
> > > > > a dozen eggs.
> > > > >
> > > > > All laid out next to each other
> > > > > side by side...evenly.
> > > > >
> > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> > > > >
> > > > > without breaking
> > > > >
> > > > > you need gravity to hold each one
> > > > >
> > > > > to stop it from breaking..
> > > > >
> > > > > Now,
> > > > >
> > > > > The Origin of Gravity
> > > > >
> > > > > is what kept the eggs
> > > > >
> > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> > > > >
> > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with describing
> > > > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > >
> > > > > math won't do..
> > > > >
> > > > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > >
> > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> > > >
> > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> > > >
> > > > let's take a dozen eggs...
> > > >
> > > > all laid out next to each other
> > > > side by side...evenly.
> > > >
> > > > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> > > >
> > > > Now open the box of eggs and
> > > > turn it upside down so they can all
> > > > fall down..
> > > >
> > > > you look on the floor and you got this
> > > > big mess..
> > > >
> > > > eggs everywhere..
> > > >
> > > > but, before they were all
> > > > laid out next to each other
> > > > side by side, evenly...
> > > >
> > > > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > > > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> > > >
> > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> > > >
> > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > > > galaxies...
> > > >
> > > > but, but...
> > > >
> > > > before the big bang..
> > > > all stars were
> > > > laid out next to each other
> > > > side by side, evenly...
> > > >
> > > > and during the big bang they
> > > > all went out in a straight line..
> > > >
> > > > but looking at the universe today...
> > > >
> > > > it appears they are all scattered out..
> > > >
> > > > but they are not.
> > > >
> > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> > > >
> > > > so, what
> > > > laid out the stars next to each other
> > > > side by side, evenly?
> > > >
> > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> > > >
> > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    *    *
> > > >            *
> > > >                 *
> > > >                        *
> > > >                *
> > > >                      *
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> > > >
> > > >  *    .  *       .             *
> > > >                          *
> > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > >    .     *
> > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > >        .                .        .
> > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > >                              .
> > > >          *          .   *
> > > > *    *
> > > >            *
> > > >                 *
> > > >  .    .                  *
> > > >                *
> > > >                      *
> > > > .        .
> > > >
> > > > *    .  *       .             *
> > > >                          *
> > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > >    .     *
> > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > >        .                .        .
> > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > >                              .
> > > >          *          .   *
> > > >
> > > > from order to disorder..
> > >
> > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.
> >
> > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels...
> >
> > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter..
> >
> > matter was created BEFORE the big bang...
> >
> > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it.
> >
> > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that.
> >
> > It seems you people hit a wall or something...
> >
> > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang.
> >
> > I'm astounded.
> 
> the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light
> travels in a straight line.
> 
> And light created matter.


In other words...if you reverse the universe, it goes from this:


> > > >  *    .  *       .             *
> > > >                          *
> > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > >    .     *
> > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > >        .                .        .
> > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > >                              .
> > > >          *          .   *
> > > > *    *
> > > >            *
> > > >                 *
> > > >  .    .                  *
> > > >                *
> > > >                      *
> > > > .        .
> > > >
> > > > *    .  *       .             *
> > > >                          *
> > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > >    .     *
> > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > >        .                .        .
> > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > >                              .
> > > >          *          .   *



to this:


> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *
> > > >
> > > > *      *       *       *



but maybe this is too far above your level..


this, this Origin of Gravity...


How about..what other 'applications' does gravity have besides hold all the planets together?


Something at your level...


and beside keeping your feet on the ground....


what other 'Aplications' does Gravity have here on your home ground..? Like for example..


one application of gravity is to provide you with food to eat like using it's gravity application to

drop an apple from a tree just at the right time that it is ...ripe.


Can you name another application?

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#687395

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
Message-ID<5B0B2E9A.5EF0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687379
Double-A wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:32:28 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The problem with describing
> > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > math won't do..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > before the big bang...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > stars in the universe were like..
> > > > > > > a dozen eggs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All laid out next to each other
> > > > > > > side by side...evenly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > without breaking
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > to stop it from breaking..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is what kept the eggs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The problem with describing
> > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > math won't do..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > let's take a dozen eggs...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all laid out next to each other
> > > > > > side by side...evenly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now open the box of eggs and
> > > > > > turn it upside down so they can all
> > > > > > fall down..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you look on the floor and you got this
> > > > > > big mess..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > eggs everywhere..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but, before they were all
> > > > > > laid out next to each other
> > > > > > side by side, evenly...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > > > > > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > > > > > galaxies...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but, but...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > before the big bang..
> > > > > > all stars were
> > > > > > laid out next to each other
> > > > > > side by side, evenly...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and during the big bang they
> > > > > > all went out in a straight line..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but looking at the universe today...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it appears they are all scattered out..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but they are not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so, what
> > > > > > laid out the stars next to each other
> > > > > > side by side, evenly?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    *    *
> > > > > >            *
> > > > > >                 *
> > > > > >                        *
> > > > > >                *
> > > > > >                      *
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  *    .  *       .             *
> > > > > >                          *
> > > > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > > > >    .     *
> > > > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > > > >        .                .        .
> > > > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > > > >                              .
> > > > > >          *          .   *
> > > > > > *    *
> > > > > >            *
> > > > > >                 *
> > > > > >  .    .                  *
> > > > > >                *
> > > > > >                      *
> > > > > > .        .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *    .  *       .             *
> > > > > >                          *
> > > > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > > > >    .     *
> > > > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > > > >        .                .        .
> > > > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > > > >                              .
> > > > > >          *          .   *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from order to disorder..
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.
> > > >
> > > > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels...
> > > >
> > > > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter..
> > > >
> > > > matter was created BEFORE the big bang...
> > > >
> > > > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it.
> > > >
> > > > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that.
> > > >
> > > > It seems you people hit a wall or something...
> > > >
> > > > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang.
> > > >
> > > > I'm astounded.
> > >
> > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light
> > > travels in a straight line.
> > >
> > > And light created matter.
> >
> >
> > In other words...if you reverse the universe, it goes from this:
> >
> >
> > > > > >  *    .  *       .             *
> > > > > >                          *
> > > > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > > > >    .     *
> > > > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > > > >        .                .        .
> > > > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > > > >                              .
> > > > > >          *          .   *
> > > > > > *    *
> > > > > >            *
> > > > > >                 *
> > > > > >  .    .                  *
> > > > > >                *
> > > > > >                      *
> > > > > > .        .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *    .  *       .             *
> > > > > >                          *
> > > > > >  *   .        *       .       .       *
> > > > > >    .     *
> > > > > >            .     .  *        *
> > > > > >        .                .        .
> > > > > > .  *           *                     *
> > > > > >                              .
> > > > > >          *          .   *
> >
> >
> >
> > to this:
> >
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *      *       *       *
> >
> >
> >
> > but maybe this is too far above your level..
> >
> >
> > this, this Origin of Gravity...
> >
> >
> > How about..what other 'applications' does gravity have besides hold all the planets together?
> >
> >
> > Something at your level...
> >
> >
> > and beside keeping your feet on the ground....
> >
> >
> > what other 'Aplications' does Gravity have here on your home ground..? Like for example..
> >
> >
> > one application of gravity is to provide you with food to eat like using it's gravity application to
> >
> > drop an apple from a tree just at the right time that it is ...ripe.
> >
> >
> > Can you name another application?
> 
> We had a gravity flow water supply!
> 
> Double-A


Do you mean the Moon pulling the drop of water from a leaf to the ground to make rivers and oceans?

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