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Re: The Origin of Gravity

Subject Re: The Origin of Gravity
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
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From benj <benj@nobody.net>
Message-ID <KnVNC.199742$1e7.97751@fx38.iad> (permalink)
Date 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400

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On 5/25/2018 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2018 7:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> benj wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All laid out next to each other
>>>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> without breaking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is what kept the eggs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all laid out next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
>>>>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
>>>>>>> fall down..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
>>>>>>> big mess..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eggs everywhere..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, before they were all
>>>>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
>>>>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
>>>>>>> galaxies...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> before the big bang..
>>>>>>> all stars were
>>>>>>> laid out next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and during the big bang they
>>>>>>> all went out in a straight line..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but looking at the universe today...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but they are not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so, what
>>>>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
>>>>>>> side by side, evenly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *      *       *       *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        *    *
>>>>>>>                *
>>>>>>>                     *
>>>>>>>                            *
>>>>>>>                    *
>>>>>>>                          *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      *    .  *       .             *
>>>>>>>                              *
>>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>>>>        .     *
>>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
>>>>>>>            .                .        .
>>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>>>>                                  .
>>>>>>>              *          .   *
>>>>>>> *    *
>>>>>>>                *
>>>>>>>                     *
>>>>>>>      .    .                  *
>>>>>>>                    *
>>>>>>>                          *
>>>>>>> .        .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *    .  *       .             *
>>>>>>>                              *
>>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
>>>>>>>        .     *
>>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
>>>>>>>            .                .        .
>>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
>>>>>>>                                  .
>>>>>>>              *          .   *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from order to disorder..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Utter nonsense.
>>>>>> There was no Big Bang.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
>>>>>
>>>> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
>>>> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
>>>> Give it up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..
>>>
>>> i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."
>>>
>>>
>>> "from"! Do you know the definition of from?
>>>
>>> and "to".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> from and to
>>>
>>>
>>> Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????
>>>
>>> I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...
>>>
>>
>> Don't try to change the subject, faker. It's not a matter of "from" and
>> "to" it is a matter of you drooling one about thing of which you have no
>> knowledge whatsoever. As a lib you think if you can imagine it, that
>> makes it reality. Just lay off your stash for a while, Faker.
>>
>> The BB is supposed to be a SINGULARITY. You have no idea what that
>> fantasy is. I suggest you learn and then come back here.
> 
> 
> 
> SINGULARITY????  Where do you get your info from...scientist? Where did they get their info from?? a catholic priest??
> 
Today in science they mostly get it the same place you get yours: Drug 
induced fantasies. This is the Lib idea of what "science" is, right?

Faker get it through your pointy head that a lib CANNOT bullshit their 
way through science. It's not possible. Eventually reality catches up 
with you.

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  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
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        Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
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            Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 14:23 +0100
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
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    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
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                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:27 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-29 13:37 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-01 12:31 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 10:24 +0200
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:00 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 19:10 +0200
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          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
          Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
            Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
              Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000

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