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Re: The Origin of Gravity

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: The Origin of Gravity
Date 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
Organization Netfront http://www.netfront.net/
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benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The problem with describing
> >> The Origin of Gravity is
> >> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>
> >> math won't do..
> >>
> >> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>
> >> before the big bang...
> >>
> >> stars in the universe were like..
> >> a dozen eggs.
> >>
> >> All laid out next to each other
> >> side by side...evenly.
> >>
> >> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >>
> >> without breaking
> >>
> >> you need gravity to hold each one
> >>
> >> to stop it from breaking..
> >>
> >> Now,
> >>
> >> The Origin of Gravity
> >>
> >> is what kept the eggs
> >>
> >> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >>
> >> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >>
> >> and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >>
> >> The problem with describing
> >> The Origin of Gravity is
> >> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>
> >> math won't do..
> >>
> >> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>
> >> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >
> >
> > I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >
> >
> > let's take a dozen eggs...
> >
> > all laid out next to each other
> > side by side...evenly.
> >
> > That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >
> > Now open the box of eggs and
> > turn it upside down so they can all
> > fall down..
> >
> > you look on the floor and you got this
> > big mess..
> >
> > eggs everywhere..
> >
> > but, before they were all
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> >
> > and then they fell out of the box...but
> > each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >
> > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >
> > you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> > galaxies...
> >
> > but, but...
> >
> > before the big bang..
> > all stars were
> > laid out next to each other
> > side by side, evenly...
> >
> > and during the big bang they
> > all went out in a straight line..
> >
> > but looking at the universe today...
> >
> > it appears they are all scattered out..
> >
> > but they are not.
> >
> > Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >
> > so, what
> > laid out the stars next to each other
> > side by side, evenly?
> >
> >
> > What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >
> > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> > *      *       *       *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     *    *
> >             *
> >                  *
> >                         *
> >                 *
> >                       *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >
> >
> >   *    .  *       .             *
> >                           *
> >   *   .        *       .       .       *
> >     .     *
> >             .     .  *        *
> >         .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                               .
> >           *          .   *
> > *    *
> >             *
> >                  *
> >   .    .                  *
> >                 *
> >                       *
> > .        .
> >
> > *    .  *       .             *
> >                           *
> >   *   .        *       .       .       *
> >     .     *
> >             .     .  *        *
> >         .                .        .
> > .  *           *                     *
> >                               .
> >           *          .   *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > from order to disorder..
> 
> Utter nonsense.
> There was no Big Bang.

I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.


The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..

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The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
  Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 14:28 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 18:01 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:11 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 05:07 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 12:45 +0000
            Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 06:31 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:39 +0000
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:49 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:19 +0000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:52 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 21:58 +0000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 20:56 -0400
  Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 17:57 -0700
  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 01:31 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 04:40 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 14:23 +0100
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 23:52 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
  Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 15:54 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:23 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:27 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 06:43 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:35 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 16:28 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:09 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 15:50 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-28 18:35 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 16:22 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-27 20:07 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 13:25 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 17:39 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:05 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:40 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 02:11 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 23:43 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-05 06:56 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-03 06:51 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 02:01 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 18:11 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:02 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-05-30 11:40 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 20:35 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
          Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
            Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:37 -0700
              Time == Entropy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 09:44 -0700
            Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
              Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
  Re: The Origin of Gravity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 11:46 -0700
  The Origin of Gravity sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 20:10 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 22:03 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:10 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-06-01 20:00 +0000
          Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:06 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:07 -0400
    Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-31 10:44 -0700

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