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Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq...

Started byJay Bala <jay1bala@gmail.com>
First post2016-01-09 07:45 -0800
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  Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Jay Bala <jay1bala@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 07:45 -0800
    Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 08:23 -0800
    Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-09 08:37 -0800
      Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 13:57 -0600
        Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 19:42 -0500
          Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:34 -0600
            Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 09:14 -0800
            Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:44 -0500
              Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:27 -0600
                Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:31 -0500
                  Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:43 -0600
        Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-10 08:34 -0800
          Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 09:17 -0800
          Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 19:02 +0100
          Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 11:42 -0600
            Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-12 06:49 -0800
              Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:05 -0600
              Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:58 -0600
                Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-12 12:32 -0800
                  Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:53 -0600
              Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 10:12 -0600
      Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 11:49 -0600
    Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 16:34 -0800
    Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 08:10 -0600
    Re: Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq... Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 15:23 -0600

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#544014 — Richard Feynman on Schrödinger eq...

FromJay Bala <jay1bala@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-09 07:45 -0800
SubjectRichard Feynman on Schrödinger eq...
Message-ID<0990a532-e3d3-4a29-9213-db7d8511019e@googlegroups.com>
What did  Richard Feynman really mean by this: 
"Where did we get that (equation) from? Nowhere. It is not possible to derive it from anything you know. It came out of the mind of Schrödinger.”

Regards,
Jay Bala

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#544019

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-09 08:23 -0800
Message-ID<2428e58d-a50b-4fdf-b417-41e8cde66d54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544014
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Jay Bala wrote:
> What did  Richard Feynman really mean by this: 
>
> "Where did we get that (equation) from? Nowhere. It is not possible
> to derive it from anything you know. It came out of the mind of
> Schrödinger.”
>
> Regards,
> Jay Bala

Clever Feynman was being facetious, in his many jokingly philosophical
ways. All equations have roots, not a one just materializes out of
nowhere. Well... save the crap you see on TBBT whiteboards. Think of
Newton, Lagrangian, Hamiltonian, Saha, Hilbert, JAW, QED, QCD, ...

Thankfully, they @#TBBT stopped using equations on whiteboards as
backdrops since Penny needlessly got her hair cut. Miss that hair!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Penn(y) for your thought...”

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#544023

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-01-09 08:37 -0800
Message-ID<47b6b955-86cb-4d23-b952-0032658cbfda@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544014
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Jay Bala wrote:
> What did  Richard Feynman really mean by this: 
> "Where did we get that (equation) from? Nowhere. It is not possible to derive it from anything you know. It came out of the mind of Schrödinger.”
> 

Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation to fit the experimental data. That's all!!

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#544072

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-09 13:57 -0600
Message-ID<n6ronl$1ma3$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544023
On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>
>
> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>

Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#544131

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-09 19:42 -0500
Message-ID<QNhky.166081$rj1.49228@fx27.iad>
In reply to#544072
On 01/09/2016 02:57 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted
>> that the
>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a
>> statistical equation
>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>
>
> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
>
>
Same source that gives you the right, Boinker.

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#544455

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 10:34 -0600
Message-ID<n70li1$rgf$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544131
On 1/9/2016 6:42 PM, benj wrote:
> On 01/09/2016 02:57 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted
>>> that the
>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a
>>> statistical equation
>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>>
>>
>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
>>
>>
> Same source that gives you the right, Boinker.
>

What history have I made up, Ben?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#544464

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 09:14 -0800
Message-ID<9ddd17e6-d9f2-4b1e-ab7a-318b76f0fa6b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544455
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 11:34:15 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/9/2016 6:42 PM, benj wrote:
> > On 01/09/2016 02:57 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He
> >>> noted that the available experimental data is statistic so he
> >>> formulated a statistical equation to fit the experimental
> >>> data. That's all!!
> >>
> >> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
> >>
> > Same source that gives you the right, Boinker.
> >
> What history have I made up, Ben?

The official one, per ONE physics, politically correct One. Duh duh DUH.

> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Post to WWW a picture of a bunch of your fine tools, Odd Bod Kin.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Make me some more enemies, as if...”

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#544520

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 14:44 -0500
Message-ID<5CTky.92538$kN.4333@fx11.iad>
In reply to#544455
On 01/11/2016 11:34 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/9/2016 6:42 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 01/09/2016 02:57 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted
>>>> that the
>>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a
>>>> statistical equation
>>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
>>>
>>>
>> Same source that gives you the right, Boinker.
>>
>
> What history have I made up, Ben?

OK, repeating history others have made up and written in books isn't 
quite the same as making it up yourself. But you are still responsible 
for promoting the fantasies.  I stand corrected.



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#544547

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 15:27 -0600
Message-ID<n716oi$ga2$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544520
On 1/11/2016 1:44 PM, benj wrote:
> OK, repeating history others have made up and written in books isn't
> quite the same as making it up yourself. But you are still responsible
> for promoting the fantasies.  I stand corrected.

What history have others made up?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#544578

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 17:31 -0500
Message-ID<U2Wky.110817$IX3.72530@fx36.iad>
In reply to#544547
On 01/11/2016 04:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/11/2016 1:44 PM, benj wrote:
>> OK, repeating history others have made up and written in books isn't
>> quite the same as making it up yourself. But you are still responsible
>> for promoting the fantasies.  I stand corrected.
>
> What history have others made up?
>
History is written by those in power.

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#544603

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 17:43 -0600
Message-ID<n71en1$u4q$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544578
On 1/11/2016 4:31 PM, benj wrote:
> On 01/11/2016 04:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/11/2016 1:44 PM, benj wrote:
>>> OK, repeating history others have made up and written in books isn't
>>> quite the same as making it up yourself. But you are still responsible
>>> for promoting the fantasies.  I stand corrected.
>>
>> What history have others made up?
>>
> History is written by those in power.
>

So is your autobiography.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#544254

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-01-10 08:34 -0800
Message-ID<a69f7d43-c998-4af6-b6b5-8e0492366eb2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544072
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
> > available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
> > to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
> >
> 
> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?

I didn't make up any history.

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#544256

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-10 09:17 -0800
Message-ID<b2776fe5-743f-4390-be4a-93f88178854a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544254
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 11:35:03 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > >
> > > Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
> > > available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
> > > to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
> > >
> > Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
> 
> I didn't make up any history.

Odd BlowsKin is projecting that only others can make up history.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: QED, RPF, Sum Over Histories. S.”

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#544261

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-10 19:02 +0100
Message-ID<n6u668$41i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#544254
Dne 10/01/2016 v 17:34 kenseto napsal(a):
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>>
>>
>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
> 
> I didn't make up any history.
> 

Then you do not know you make up history.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#544468

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 11:42 -0600
Message-ID<n70phe$1njn$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544254
On 1/10/2016 10:34 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>>
>>
>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
>
> I didn't make up any history.
>

The above, which you wrote, is counter to documented history. You made 
those statements up.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#544752

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-01-12 06:49 -0800
Message-ID<b512be65-44ab-4d4d-9603-3b45818b1901@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544468
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/10/2016 10:34 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
> >>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
> >>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
> >
> > I didn't make up any history.
> >
> 
> The above, which you wrote, is counter to documented history. You made 
> those statements up.

You tell us how Schrodinger derived his equation.

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#544757

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 09:05 -0600
Message-ID<AbWdnZg65c-2iwjLnZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#544752
On 1/12/16 8:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
> You tell us how Schrodinger derived his equation.


   Here you go, Seto:
   Derivation of Schrodinger's Equation
> http://www.harding.edu/lmurray/modern_files/der%20of%20sch%20equ.pdf



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#544774

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 09:58 -0600
Message-ID<n737qo$1m7q$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544752
On 1/12/2016 8:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/10/2016 10:34 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
>>>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
>>>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
>>>
>>> I didn't make up any history.
>>>
>>
>> The above, which you wrote, is counter to documented history. You made
>> those statements up.
>
> You tell us how Schrodinger derived his equation.
>

Screw that. You try reading how Schrodinger derived his equation, like 
the rest of the world does, and you try not making stuff up.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#544858

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2016-01-12 12:32 -0800
Message-ID<94853a5f-1df3-49f3-bea6-3c57504ba778@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#544774
On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:58:21 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 1/12/2016 8:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 1/10/2016 10:34 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
> >>>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
> >>>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
> >>>
> >>> I didn't make up any history.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The above, which you wrote, is counter to documented history. You made
> >> those statements up.
> >
> > You tell us how Schrodinger derived his equation.
> >
> 
> Screw that. You try reading how Schrodinger derived his equation, like 
> the rest of the world does, and you try not making stuff up.

I go by what Feynman said.

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#544863

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 14:53 -0600
Message-ID<n73p3h$o37$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#544858
On 1/12/2016 2:32 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:58:21 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/12/2016 8:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/2016 10:34 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/9/2016 10:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Schrodinger formulated his equation by reverse engineering. He noted that the
>>>>>>> available  experimental data is statistic so he formulated a statistical equation
>>>>>>> to fit the experimental data. That's all!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken, what gives you the right to make up history?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't make up any history.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The above, which you wrote, is counter to documented history. You made
>>>> those statements up.
>>>
>>> You tell us how Schrodinger derived his equation.
>>>
>>
>> Screw that. You try reading how Schrodinger derived his equation, like
>> the rest of the world does, and you try not making stuff up.
>
> I go by what Feynman said.
>

So the beautiful thing about books is they have an index. So you can 
look up, say, "Schrodinger" in a book by Feynman to see what Feynman 
actually said about Schrodinger. The index points to the page, and you 
go to the page and you look for the word "Schrodinger" and then you just 
read the sentences containing that word.

And as it turns out, I have a number of books by Feynman, and so it was 
really easy to do what I just described. And BEHOLD, there is no 
statement like what you wrote above that shows up in that search.

So since this is something anyone can do with a book, even a child, you 
can understand why people might suspect that you just make this shit up.



-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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