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Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

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First post2016-10-27 21:35 -0700
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  Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-27 21:35 -0700
    Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-28 10:27 -0700
    Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-29 17:52 -0400
      Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-29 20:53 -0700
      Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-29 21:14 -0700
      Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 21:34 -0700

#602757 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-27 21:35 -0700
SubjectRe: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.
Message-ID<5812D575.3AB1@ix.netcom.com>
Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> 
> WikiPedia says: <<  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  >>
> 
> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> 
> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> 
> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> 
> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;



What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
change your past?

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#602783

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-28 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<58138A81.4543@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#602757
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >
> > WikiPedia says: <<  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  >>
> >
> > "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> > as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> >
> > "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> > nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> >
> > Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> > like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> > in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >
> > _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> 
> What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> change your past?


or you have two people running for president...which is the future? Can
wiki leaks
determind and change the future??

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#602903

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-10-29 17:52 -0400
Message-ID<58151a13$0$28928$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#602757
On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>
>> WikiPedia says: <<  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
>>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
>>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
>>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  >>
>>
>> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
>> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
>>
>> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
>> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
>>
>> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
>> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
>> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
>>
>> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
>
>
>
> What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> change your past?
>
Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy 
lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of 
what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.

Of course Rolf is still an idiot too, since what I choose to do can 
change the future. The past is always fixed by what happened.

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#602938

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-29 20:53 -0700
Message-ID<58156EB8.324A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#602903
benj wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>
> >> WikiPedia says: <<  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  >>
> >>
> >> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> >> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> >>
> >> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> >> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> >>
> >> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> >> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> >> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >>
> >> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> >
> >
> >
> > What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> > change your past?
> >
> Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy
> lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of
> what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.
> 
> Of course Rolf is still an idiot too, since what I choose to do can
> change the future. The past is always fixed by what happened.


general theory of relativity does not forbid travel into the past

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#602939

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-29 21:14 -0700
Message-ID<581573BD.1884@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#602903
benj wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>
> >> WikiPedia says: <<  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  >>
> >>
> >> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> >> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> >>
> >> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> >> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> >>
> >> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> >> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> >> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >>
> >> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> >
> >
> >
> > What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> > change your past?
> >
> Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy
> lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of
> what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.


if you remember your past..
and it changes..
you change your past..

Now you must make a new
past with your new mother...

and play catch up...
to the present.

You will find
your changed past changes
your present and future.

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#602940

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-29 21:34 -0700
Message-ID<0d26d41f-eb77-43eb-b490-0b773aca3eea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#602903
On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 5:52:22 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>
> >> WikiPedia says: <<  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  >>
> >>
> >> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> >> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.

Right, all that was required was a proper (re)naming?! Sign me up!

> >> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> >> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.

Jeff you Ignorant Slut (that's me m(y) Bill Murray(?) SNL impersonation),
wake the fuck up and listen to the ever changing unknowable universe.

If your 4D-Universe is so damn static and deterministic, stop throwing dice.

> >> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> >> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> >> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >>
> >> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;

Ok. So what is this dead solid 4D-construct, Jeff you Ignorant Slut?

> > What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> > change your past?

Your mother is not your mother because USA CPS had you adopted/fostered?

> Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy 
> lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of 
> what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.

StrawFarter ... enough said.

> Of course Rolf is still an idiot too, since what I choose to do can 
> change the future. The past is always fixed by what happened.

The past is gone... four just beautiful words ever sung!

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mere text based discussions. Sue me. Don't now all you old-fashioned folks
croak at once! Inhale. Slap on some aftershave and smell the latest roses...

So does Aerosmith's Steven Tyler look like Melania Trump or not?! Is it just me?
O darn... do I need corrective lenses... O shit I can't see/read the directions.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Steven+Tyler+dream+on Love you Tyler!

Try this studio version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g8_Nt8Q6Gs Too Good!

Lesson: I think psychologists get paid overtime and a half to fuck physicists.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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