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  Hey -- Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 20:32 -0500
    Re: Hey -- Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-18 03:32 +0000
      Re: For the jimp: http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 08:28 -0500
        Re: shit head displays his ignorance jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-18 17:48 +0000
    Why Faraday cages are less effective than stooopid people previously thought? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 01:02 -0400
    Re: Hey -- Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-18 13:21 -0700

#521749 — Hey -- Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought?

Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought?
> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/sep/15/are-faraday-cages-less-effective-than-previously-thought


> Is the Faraday cage in your lab less effective than you think? A new
> study by applied mathematicians at the University of Oxford suggests
> that the mesh wire cages may not be as good at shielding
> electromagnetic radiation as previously thought. The team has
> identified a flaw in the conventional understanding of how the
> effectiveness of a Faraday cage changes as the wires are moved closer
> together. Even though engineers might have realized this effect
> experimentally, this mathematical discovery could improve the design
> of these cages.
>
> The physicist Michael Faraday came up with the idea of using a
> conducting wire-mesh cage to block electromagnetic fields in 1836. A
> familiar modern example of such a cage is the mesh screen on a
> microwave oven door, which is designed to keep microwaves in while
> allowing us to watch our food as it cooks. A solid metal cage offers
> the best protection from electromagnetic waves, but Faraday and many
> scientists since have assumed that mesh is a good enough
> approximation of a solid metal cage. Specifically, many had believed
> that the electric field within the cage rapidly approaches zero as
> the wires get closer together. In the 1960s, for example, the Nobel
> laureate Richard Feynman gave a famous series of physics lectures at
> Caltech that included a short discussion on Faraday cages that has
> since been adapted in many textbooks and physics lectures. He assumed
> constant electric charge, and argued that the electric field
> approaches zero exponentially within the cage.
>

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#521772

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought?

No, spamming shit head, because in the real world if you are going
to the trouble of building one you measure the effectiveness, you
worthless, cut and paste, spamming piece of shit.


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Jim Pennino

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#521796 — Re: For the jimp: http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

On 9/17/15 10:32 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> No, spamming shit head, because in the real world if you are going
> to the trouble of building one you measure the effectiveness, you
> worthless, cut and paste, spamming piece of shit.



   For the jimp:
http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought?
> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/sep/15/are-faraday-cages-less-effective-than-previously-thought

 > Is the Faraday cage in your lab less effective than you think? A new
 > study by applied mathematicians at the University of Oxford suggests
 > that the mesh wire cages may not be as good at shielding
 > electromagnetic radiation as previously thought. The team has
 > identified a flaw in the conventional understanding of how the
 > effectiveness of a Faraday cage changes as the wires are moved closer
 > together. Even though engineers might have realized this effect
 > experimentally, this mathematical discovery could improve the design
 > of these cages.
 >
 > The physicist Michael Faraday came up with the idea of using a
 > conducting wire-mesh cage to block electromagnetic fields in 1836. A
 > familiar modern example of such a cage is the mesh screen on a
 > microwave oven door, which is designed to keep microwaves in while
 > allowing us to watch our food as it cooks. A solid metal cage offers
 > the best protection from electromagnetic waves, but Faraday and many
 > scientists since have assumed that mesh is a good enough
 > approximation of a solid metal cage. Specifically, many had believed
 > that the electric field within the cage rapidly approaches zero as
 > the wires get closer together. In the 1960s, for example, the Nobel
 > laureate Richard Feynman gave a famous series of physics lectures at
 > Caltech that included a short discussion on Faraday cages that has
 > since been adapted in many textbooks and physics lectures. He assumed
 > constant electric charge, and argued that the electric field
 > approaches zero exponentially within the cage.





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#521825 — Re: shit head displays his ignorance

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/17/15 10:32 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> No, spamming shit head, because in the real world if you are going
>> to the trouble of building one you measure the effectiveness, you
>> worthless, cut and paste, spamming piece of shit.
> 
> 
> 
>   For the jimp:

For the ass hat piece of shit spammer:

It seems that the spamming shit head is too ignorant of the real
world to comment on my response.

Such is to be expected from an ignorant, spamming, cut and paste
shit head.


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Jim Pennino

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#521779 — Why Faraday cages are less effective than stooopid people previously thought?

On 09/17/2015 09:32 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought?
>> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/sep/15/are-faraday-cages-less-effective-than-previously-thought
>>
>
>
>> Is the Faraday cage in your lab less effective than you think? A new
>> study by applied mathematicians at the University of Oxford suggests
>> that the mesh wire cages may not be as good at shielding
>> electromagnetic radiation as previously thought. The team has
>> identified a flaw in the conventional understanding of how the
>> effectiveness of a Faraday cage changes as the wires are moved closer
>> together. Even though engineers might have realized this effect
>> experimentally, this mathematical discovery could improve the design
>> of these cages.
>>
>> The physicist Michael Faraday came up with the idea of using a
>> conducting wire-mesh cage to block electromagnetic fields in 1836. A
>> familiar modern example of such a cage is the mesh screen on a
>> microwave oven door, which is designed to keep microwaves in while
>> allowing us to watch our food as it cooks. A solid metal cage offers
>> the best protection from electromagnetic waves, but Faraday and many
>> scientists since have assumed that mesh is a good enough
>> approximation of a solid metal cage. Specifically, many had believed
>> that the electric field within the cage rapidly approaches zero as
>> the wires get closer together. In the 1960s, for example, the Nobel
>> laureate Richard Feynman gave a famous series of physics lectures at
>> Caltech that included a short discussion on Faraday cages that has
>> since been adapted in many textbooks and physics lectures. He assumed
>> constant electric charge, and argued that the electric field
>> approaches zero exponentially within the cage.

Lucky you cut and pasted this Sammy, because if Oxford is just now 
learning about Faraday shields, well, obviously once again you have no clue.

The article said: "He joined forces with Oxford's Jon Chapman and David 
Hewett to study the problem, but it soon became apparent to the team 
that this rapid convergence to zero electric field does not happen."

And everybody wonders why I constantly rag on the stooopidity of people 
like you and others who buy into all the myths of physics...Like the 
field being ZERO inside a Faraday shield. This is simply WRONG. The 
field is NEVER zero unless the external source is zero. And the higher 
the frequency gets the worse it is.

Why do I end up having to explain physics to all the clowns here 
pretending to be so smart? Go ask HVAC why the shield is never perfect. 
You can even ask him to explain "evanescent waves" to you.

Go ahead. I DARE you.



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#521860

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 6:32:15 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Are Faraday cages less effective than previously thought?
> > http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/sep/15/are-faraday-cages-less-effective-than-previously-thought
> 
> 
> > Is the Faraday cage in your lab less effective than you think? A new
> > study by applied mathematicians at the University of Oxford suggests
> > that the mesh wire cages may not be as good at shielding
> > electromagnetic radiation as previously thought. The team has
> > identified a flaw in the conventional understanding of how the
> > effectiveness of a Faraday cage changes as the wires are moved closer
> > together. Even though engineers might have realized this effect
> > experimentally, this mathematical discovery could improve the design
> > of these cages.
> >
> > The physicist Michael Faraday came up with the idea of using a
> > conducting wire-mesh cage to block electromagnetic fields in 1836. A
> > familiar modern example of such a cage is the mesh screen on a
> > microwave oven door, which is designed to keep microwaves in while
> > allowing us to watch our food as it cooks. A solid metal cage offers
> > the best protection from electromagnetic waves, but Faraday and many
> > scientists since have assumed that mesh is a good enough
> > approximation of a solid metal cage. Specifically, many had believed
> > that the electric field within the cage rapidly approaches zero as
> > the wires get closer together. In the 1960s, for example, the Nobel
> > laureate Richard Feynman gave a famous series of physics lectures at
> > Caltech that included a short discussion on Faraday cages that has
> > since been adapted in many textbooks and physics lectures. He assumed
> > constant electric charge, and argued that the electric field
> > approaches zero exponentially within the cage.


It took them until now to figure that out?

Double-A

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