Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians

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On 2/6/2017 5:40 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 2:36:42 PM UTC-8, Pentcho Valev
> wrote:
>> Entropy is not a state function. This means that any statement

>> http://mutuslab.cs.uwindsor.ca/schurko/introphyschem/lectures/240_l10.pdf
>>  "Carnot Cycles: S is a State Function. Any reversible cycle can be
>> thought of as a collection of Carnot cycles - this approximation
>> becomes exact as cycles become infinitesimal. Entropy change around
>> an individual cycle is zero. Sum of entropy changes over all cycles
>> is zero."
>

>> Conclusion: The belief that the entropy is a state function is
>> totally unjustified. The part of thermodynamics based on the
>> entropy concept is not even wrong.
>>
>> http://www.eoht.info/page/Neumann-Shannon+anecdote "...Shannon was
>> wavering on whether or not to call his new logarithmic statistical
>> formulation of data in signal transmission by the name of
>> 'information' or 'uncertainty', to which question Neumann suggested
>> that Shannon use neither names, but rather use the name 'entropy'
>> of thermodynamics, because: (a) the statistical mechanics version
>> of the entropy equations have the same mathematical isomorphism and
>> (b) nobody really knows what entropy really is so he will have the
>> advantage in winning any arguments that might erupt."
>>
>> Pentcho Valev
>
>
> I just found my old Thermodynamics textbook.  I shouldn't study it?
>
> Double-A
>

I think the books are OK.

But all those loose Thermodynamicsts running around without their hats 
on... , he is saying they are nutzoid.

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Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-06 07:55 -0800
  Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-02-06 15:40 -0800
    Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-07 19:17 -0600
  Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-07 06:38 -0800
    Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-07 14:28 -0800
      Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-07 16:34 -0800
        Re: Thermodynamicists Are More Insane Than Einsteinians Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-09 11:52 -0800

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