Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Date	2016-07-14 16:36 -0500
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On 7/14/2016 3:55 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "I simply do not understand
> your terror of reading, and you blame big organizations for ills for
> which I believe the consumer is primarily responsible. You are rather
> paranoid, and you waste a ton of time in a newsgroup devoted to a field
> that you frankly despise. "
> Hmm.
> Well, if you wish to believe in things
> like "swarming gravitons",  subatomic particles
> with no structure,  and electrons that
> never need or give off energy
> because someone wrote it in a book,
> that's your choice.

I'll reiterate something I said earlier, John. In science, it isn't 
about choosing what to believe. It's about what DATA says is true, what 
EXPERIMENT says is true.
The reason to read from books is that you get familiar with the 
EXPERIMENTAL DATA that tells you what you should believe.

> But I recommend thinking for yourself,
> at some point.

I don't believe that thinking for yourself in the absence of data is 
useful scientifically. All that entails is CHOOSING what you want to 
believe in, and to hell with experimental data, and therefore to hell 
with science. Notice how you operate. Do you look at data about how 
subatomic particles behave? Do you read any books that describe that 
data? No. You just DECIDED to believe what you want to believe, that all 
things have structure, and you frankly don't care whether data supports 
a different idea or not. If the data doesn't agree with your cherished 
belief, then according to you the data isn't worth looking at.

So in this way, you will NEVER think like a scientist.

And you consider this a virtue.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-02 13:59 -0700
  Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 05:05 -0700
    Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:42 -0700
      Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 11:57 -0700
        Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 15:56 -0700
          Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 01:50 +0000
            Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 06:12 -0700
              Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 13:49 +0000
                Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 08:52 -0500
  DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-07-03 09:05 -0700
    DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:48 -0700
      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:07 -0700
        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 14:36 -0700
          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 20:16 -0700
            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 16:51 -0500
              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-07 12:47 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:29 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 20:13 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 04:12 +0000
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 06:59 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 09:50 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 14:50 +0000
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:02 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:35 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 13:13 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 11:57 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 14:28 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 20:27 +0000
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:33 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:42 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 08:17 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 07:22 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 10:35 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 16:49 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 16:52 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 04:41 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 04:55 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:22 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:39 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:30 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:02 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:17 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:44 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:03 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:25 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 12:31 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:56 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 11:40 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 13:48 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 13:55 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:36 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 17:12 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-10 17:58 +0000
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:24 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:09 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:48 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:00 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:12 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:29 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:21 -0700
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:51 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:16 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 20:39 +0000
      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-04 03:42 +0000
        Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-04 17:50 +0000
        Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 11:05 -0700
          Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 13:35 -0500
        Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 06:48 -0700
        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-07 20:23 -0500
    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:06 -0700
  Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
    Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-07-08 21:41 -0700
    Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-09 12:52 -0700
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 21:19 +0000
    Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-10 13:14 -0500

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