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On 7/11/2016 3:52 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> When you want to play the game of physics and have a illogical mind, you end up with fantasy, and fiction.

Of course, it's interesting that two completely logical minds can come 
up with two different theories that can be demonstrated to both be 
completely logically consistent, while at the same time disagreeing with 
each other.

How to resolve the conflict? Does the conflict mean that one of them 
MUST be logically faulty, and that the mind that came up with it MUST be 
illogical? No, because after all, it is demonstrated that both of them 
are logically consistent and there is no logical error in either.

So what is the recourse? Hey, I have an idea. What if we look to see 
what MEASURABLE predictions the two theories make and specifically those 
predictions where they are in conflict? Then the procedure to resolve is 
simple: make the measurement and see which one is right.

Notice that in that resolution, there is no false brandishing of "my 
logic is better than your logic" or "I am smarter than you and so my 
logic cannot be challenged by the likes of you". All that matters is 
comparison with repeatable, verifiable, experimental measurement.

Son of a gun, that sounds like a solid method to doing science! I hereby 
dub it the Scientific Method! Who's on board with that?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:42 -0700
  Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 14:18 -0700
    Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 14:37 -0700
    will Juno end up as did Hitomi? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 21:54 -0700
      Re: will Juno end up as did Hitomi? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 14:00 +0000
      spin in gravity as Faraday law, not in Newton or General Relativity Re: will Juno end up as did Hitomi? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 13:03 -0700
        Juno, spinning out of control just like Hitomi Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 13:26 -0700
          Galileo antenna would not unfold Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 14:02 -0700
            Re: Galileo antenna would not unfold Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure "Anon Y. Mouse" <nobody@home.invalid> - 2016-07-09 22:45 -0400
              did the high gain antenna on Galileo spacecraft ever work? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 22:50 -0700
                Re: did the high gain antenna on Galileo spacecraft ever work? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure "Anon Y. Mouse" <nobody@home.invalid> - 2016-07-10 13:55 -0400
                Re: did the high gain antenna on Galileo spacecraft ever work? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-10 14:25 -0500
                EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 13:24 -0700
                revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 14:05 -0700
                revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 17:05 -0700
                revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 19:57 -0700
                revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 21:56 -0700
                Re: revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:01 -0700
                Re: revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:45 -0700
                spin corrections to Juno, to keep it alive Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:08 -0700
                spin corrections to Juno, to keep it alive Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:40 -0700
                boneheads of physics who believe in black holes, dark matter/energy  Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:47 -0700
                Re: boneheads of physics who believe in black holes, dark matter/energy  Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:05 -0700
                spin corrections to Juno, to keep it alive Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:43 -0700
                shameful response by physicists when spiral galaxies were discovered Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:52 -0700
                Re: shameful response by physicists when spiral galaxies were discovered Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 11:56 -0700
                Re: shameful response by physicists when spiral galaxies were discovered Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:03 -0500
                Re: revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure "Anon Y. Mouse" <nobody@home.invalid> - 2016-07-11 22:31 -0400
                Re: revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 22:06 -0700
                Re: revising Faraday Law to include spin Re: EM gravity has rotation orbit but also spin, while GR has no spin Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure "Anon Y. Mouse" <nobody@home.invalid> - 2016-07-12 01:42 -0400
                Re: did the high gain antenna on Galileo spacecraft ever work? Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-10 14:24 -0500
          Re: Juno, spinning out of control just like Hitomi Re: I opine Juno spacecraft at Jupiter will end in failure Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 08:19 -0500

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