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Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 21:34 -0700
Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 01:09 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:53 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 06:08 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:00 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:17 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:40 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:23 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:04 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:24 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:28 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:23 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:59 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:33 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:28 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-11 18:29 +0000
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:33 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:04 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:06 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 14:13 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:24 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:29 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:06 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:06 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 07:42 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:46 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 09:52 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:02 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:16 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 11:49 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 14:38 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 13:11 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 16:31 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 14:40 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:02 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 15:22 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:51 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 17:56 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 20:01 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-13 18:17 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:55 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:34 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 14:17 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:46 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 14:57 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy xxein1@att.net - 2016-07-14 15:05 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 05:12 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:35 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 15:27 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:53 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 01:51 +0000
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 18:58 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 02:20 +0000
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 19:31 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 02:43 +0000
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 22:06 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-14 13:24 +0000
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:16 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 07:26 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:44 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:14 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 09:12 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 23:06 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:31 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-12 19:44 -0400
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:33 -0500
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:23 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:26 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 23:01 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 05:03 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-11 19:52 +0000
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 08:41 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 08:22 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-07-11 11:37 -0400
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:09 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:25 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-11 13:37 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 17:01 -0700
Re: Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 17:34 -0700
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| From | mapou001@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-10 21:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Trouble in LIGO FraudLand. Not Everybody Is Happy |
| Message-ID | <aa4e8950-84fa-44e3-9c3d-9f5e5a54458d@googlegroups.com> |
Open Letter to the Nobel Committee for Physics 2016: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304581873_Open_Letter_to_the_Nobel_Committee_for_Physics_2016
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 01:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <984049d7-36aa-4339-8130-56de12428dd6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588701 |
Well, duh. The calibration they claim is 1000 times more sensitive than ever done before, and is not shown anywhere.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 07:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm04s0$1kl3$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588729 |
On 7/11/2016 3:09 AM, john wrote: > Well, duh. > The calibration they claim is > 1000 times more sensitive than > ever done before, and is not > shown anywhere. > It is in their experimental papers, John. All available for your reading. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 06:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <460b72c3-7434-4af2-8117-2139a34c46b7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588751 |
Odd pfft "It is in their experimental papers, John. All available for your reading. " Apparently not, according to the link. You'll just accept anything, won't you Odd, if it is Party-speak? Odd- you must learn to think for yourself.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 09:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm08pl$1slu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588752 |
On 7/11/2016 8:08 AM, john wrote:
> Odd pfft
> "It is in their experimental papers, John. All available for your reading. "
> Apparently not, according to the link.
And you didn't check for yourself?
Pfft.
> You'll just accept anything,
Like you just did? ("...according to the link")
> won't you Odd,
> if it is Party-speak?
> Odd-
> you must learn to think for yourself.
>
And does thinking for yourself include checking to see if the papers are
there or not?
--
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 07:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0bc8578a-48a2-4e45-aea8-4c3474568eca@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588754 |
Odd I think for myself: gravitational waves are stupid and impossible. For them even to exist, you must first accept that Space has STRUCTURE, which until now, you schizophrenic, you've argued AGAINST. Now, you argue FOR Space having structure? Flip. Flop. And fly.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 10:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm0ekb$75o$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588756 |
On 7/11/2016 9:17 AM, john wrote: > Odd > I think for myself: gravitational waves > are stupid and impossible. If your common sense tells you something is impossible, and yet they have been recorded in measurements, you have two choices. One is to dismiss the evidence and say your common sense cannot possibly be surprised by nature and that the measurements have to be bullshit. The second is to admit that possibly, just possibly, nature might have some surprises in store for you and that your common sense might be dead wrong on occasion. I can tell you how MOST people operate, including scientists. How do you operate? > For them even to exist, > you must first accept that Space has > STRUCTURE, which until now, > you schizophrenic, you've argued AGAINST. First of all, I've NEVER stated that space does not have structure. I've said that about fundamental particles, but I don't every recall saying that the same is true for space or that space is a fundamental particle. Secondly, I FLATLY DISAGREE that having properties requires structure. That is something YOU have made up, and you say I must accept what you make up. I do not. Third, I FLATLY DISAGREE that structure is required for waves. We have had the discussion several times about what is necessary for waves. Whether you buy it or not is irrelevant. It is what physicists say is necessary, and so no, I do not have to accept what you believe. > Now, you argue FOR Space having > structure? > Flip. Flop. And fly. > Any flip-flopping you sense is due to stuff YOU'VE added to the mix that I don't buy into. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 09:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d2774988-9036-4606-a651-e943431d3c07@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588764 |
Odd said that he's never said that Space DOESNT hava base or basic principle; underlying part; e structure, just that structure is not required for waves- or the "fundamental" particles. Do you even know what a fundament is, Odd? "a base or basic principle; underlying part; "
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 12:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm0jjj$g8t$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588771 |
On 7/11/2016 11:23 AM, john wrote: > Odd said > that he's never said that Space DOESNT > hava base or basic principle; underlying part; e structure, just that structure > is not required for waves- or the > "fundamental" particles. > Do you even know > what a fundament is, Odd? > "a base or basic principle; underlying part; " > I have no interest in you trying to GUESS what "fundamental particle" means. I also have no interest in you trying to make "internal structure" synonymous with "fundamental". If you can't get clear in your own head what these terms mean, then maybe you shouldn't use the terms at all. Ever thought of reading? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 10:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f15a013d-fa97-4300-81ed-364c18005345@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588775 |
Oddtard "Fundamental particle" is a huge joke. You believe in it. Ergo
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 12:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm0kv3$im8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588777 |
On 7/11/2016 12:24 PM, john wrote: > Oddtard > "Fundamental particle" is a huge joke. I'll go back to your disbelief in other measured things like gravitational waves, which your common sense tells you is impossible. Since you believe your common sense over measurements, and your common sense tells you certain things CANNOT BE that really are, and that certain things MUST BE that really aren't, then you might understand how I am not particularly swayed by those things you think are jokes. Me, I'm going to go with the evidence and how scientists think. > You believe in it. > Ergo > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f756b147-3b30-4fe2-9a6d-d0321d28d6d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588778 |
Odd believes a "chirp" in the LIGO device is what they say it is, because HOW could it be anything else? 'Tard
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 13:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm0qa4$s58$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588785 |
On 7/11/2016 1:23 PM, john wrote: > Odd believes a "chirp" in the > LIGO device is what they say it is, Yes, exactly. Because they document THOROUGHLY in their papers why this signal stands out differently from background sources, what they've done to eliminate noise from background sources and how they account for the part that hasn't been eliminated. This is PRECISELY the business of experimental physics, to a) identify signals that cannot be confused with something else b) design an experiment that distinguishes signal from noise c) be absolutely sure that you've accounted for all possibly significant sources of error. If you had no idea experimental physicists go to such lengths, then what the FUCK are you doing criticizing the results? > because HOW could it be anything > else? > 'Tard > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-13 08:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9e594605-93c6-4f53-a7d8-0268a5654541@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588777 |
On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 8:24:08 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > Oddtard > "Fundamental particle" is a huge joke. > You believe in it. > Ergo ======== there are fundamental particles why not ??!! yet the question is WAHT ARE THOSE FUNDAMENTALS AND WHAT ARE JUST HUMAN INVENED PARTICLES 2 at any case particles have mass the only one mass !! ================== Y.Porat ============================== Y.Porat ============================ === Y.Porat ================================
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-13 08:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1763f137-b92d-4498-9ade-1247f9d9be46@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588764 |
On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 6:39:59 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 7/11/2016 9:17 AM, john wrote: > > Odd > > I think for myself: gravitational waves > > are stupid and impossible. > > If your common sense tells you something is impossible, and yet they > have been recorded in measurements, you have two choices. One is to > dismiss the evidence and say your common sense cannot possibly be > surprised by nature and that the measurements have to be bullshit. The > second is to admit that possibly, just possibly, nature might have some > surprises in store for you and that your common sense might be dead > wrong on occasion. I can tell you how MOST people operate, including > scientists. How do you operate? > > > For them even to exist, > > you must first accept that Space has > > STRUCTURE, which until now, > > you schizophrenic, you've argued AGAINST. > > First of all, I've NEVER stated that space does not have structure. I've > said that about fundamental particles, but I don't every recall saying > that the same is true for space or that space is a fundamental particle. > > Secondly, I FLATLY DISAGREE that having properties requires structure. > That is something YOU have made up, and you say I must accept what you > make up. I do not. > > Third, I FLATLY DISAGREE that structure is required for waves. We have > had the discussion several times about what is necessary for waves. > Whether you buy it or not is irrelevant. It is what physicists say is > necessary, and so no, I do not have to accept what you believe. > > > Now, you argue FOR Space having > > structure? > > Flip. Flop. And fly. > > > > Any flip-flopping you sense is due to stuff YOU'VE added to the mix that > I don't buy into. > > > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables ========================== idiot parrot space is nothing!!! and has no properties** except hosting mass* WHILE IT IS MASS THATIS THE MOTHEROF ALL PHYSICS and forces will there not be end to stupidity and cheating!! ================== Y.Porat =======================================
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 18:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nm0oj0$53j$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #588756 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >I think for myself: gravitational waves >are stupid and impossible. John, don't forget something: In science, observation and measurement always trump theory, or "I think that..." thinking. You can come up with a beautiful proof that the noon sky is a light shade of orange, but if I observe the sky and it is blue, your beautiful theory is WRONG. Period. So you can come up with such things as benzene is a bunch of dancing spinny things, and a chemist detects properties of benzene that conflicts with dancing spinny things, then the dancing spinny thing theory is WRONG. And if you claim that "gravitational waves are stupid and impossible" and we keep detecting events that must be from gravitational waves, guess what. And it doesn't matter how much you whine about it. For now, we have to just wait and see what else LIGO and other experiments find. >For them even to exist, >you must first accept that Space has >STRUCTURE, Why do you claim this? > which until now, >you schizophrenic, you've argued AGAINST. >Now, you argue FOR Space having >structure? When did he do that?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 11:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f29a043e-3759-466e-85b2-065c5f8b861c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588787 |
Michael How do you impose a wave on "nothing"? Do tell
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 14:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm0qjv$sgo$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588788 |
On 7/11/2016 1:33 PM, john wrote: > Michael > How do you impose a wave on "nothing"? > Do tell > More of your bullshit, John. Nobody but you has said that space is "nothing". You've asked many times what is waving, and you've been answered many times, and you've done NOTHING with it, because all you care about is what you believe: That space is nothing, and that waves can't wave in nothing. And nothing anybody says to you will ever dissuade you from what you believe. And you're PROUD of that. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 12:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2a56490e-db65-4bc0-8c31-c3d06ff46661@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #588794 |
Odd I've been saying that Space is NOT NOTHING since I've been posting. And you still don't know that? Fuck off
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 14:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nm0r3p$t8l$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #588795 |
On 7/11/2016 2:06 PM, john wrote: > Odd > I've been saying that Space is > NOT NOTHING > since I've been posting. Yes, I know. We just disagree on what it is, if it's not nothing. > And you still don't know that? What the fuck are you on about? I AGREE with you that space is not nothing. So what then, exactly, was your shit point when you said "How do you impose a wave on "nothing"?" If NOBODY is claiming that space is nothing, then why make such a remark? You ass. > Fuck off > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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