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Re: 1.9801E+35 joules

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: 1.9801E+35 joules
Date 2016-04-10 15:47 -0500
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On 4/8/2016 9:25 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 5:34:34 AM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/8/2016 3:46 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
>>> 1.9801E+35 joules
>>>
>>> The energy E the sun needs to apply to keep nine planets in orbit can be calculated by
>>> the conservation of energy formula E=(GM*mpl)/(2*dm):
>>
>> First of all, what you have calculated is the gravitational potential
>> energy. Secondly, that potential energy is not what is required to keep
>> them in those orbits; rather, it is the energy you would need to supply
>> to pull them OUT of those orbits and out of the solar system. Third, a
>> formula for gravitational potential energy is not an equation for
>> conservation of energy.
>>
> 1. Irrelevant.
> 2. Energy to pull out = energy to keep in orbit.

No, not at all.

> 3. My formula is equivalent to 1/2mv^2 (refer my answer to your other reply).

OK, so this formula gives you the same answer as the kinetic energy. 
That's true automatically. It STILL isn't a formula for conservation of 
energy.

>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-08 13:46 -0700
  Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 16:34 -0500
    Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 16:36 -0500
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-08 19:14 -0700
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-08 19:17 -0700
        Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:46 -0500
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 09:37 +0200
        Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:50 -0500
    Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-08 19:25 -0700
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:39 +0200
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        Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:35 +0200
          Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 00:54 -0700
            Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:07 +0200
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:56 -0500
        Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 18:03 -0700
          Re: 1.9801E+35 joules omnilobe@gmail.com - 2016-04-09 21:36 -0700
            Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 21:52 -0700
              Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 07:46 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 07:58 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:05 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-10 00:46 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 10:08 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-10 01:30 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 11:34 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-10 18:12 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 06:46 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:01 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-10 22:45 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-10 22:53 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:10 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:14 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:36 +0200
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-10 23:50 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:28 -0500
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-11 17:32 -0700
                Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:15 -0500
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:47 -0500
  Re: 1.9801E+35 joules richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2016-04-09 23:32 +0000
    Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 17:57 -0700
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:00 -0500
        Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 18:06 -0700
          Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:10 -0500
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          Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 07:42 +0200
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 07:39 +0200
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:56 -0500
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2016-04-11 15:53 +0000
        Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-11 17:31 -0700
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    Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 23:56 -0700
      Re: 1.9801E+35 joules Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 09:39 +0200

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