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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: It takes energy to separate objects. |
| Date | 2016-04-08 13:43 +0000 |
| Organization | The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 |
| Message-ID | <ne8cht$9cr$1@pcls7.std.com> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6{3.17P.Seattle.2016}> <ne5onh$mp$1@pcls7.std.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7{0.46P.Seattle.2016}> <ne6h3n$ra6$1@pcls7.std.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7{2.06P.Seattle.2016}> |
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes: ><h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'> >You (MichaelMoroney) replied (to me): >> > Gravitational eXergy is equal_and_opposite to all other forms of exergy. >> >> Where did you get this BS from? >Paraphrasing, Stephen Hawking wrote: > It takes energy to separate objects; so > "gravitational field energy is always negative." -- > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_energy#Newtonian_mechanics So where does that state "Gravitational eXergy is equal_and_opposite to all other forms of exergy"? After all, attractive electrostatic energy follows the same rules of an inverse square law. So is attractive electrostatic energy "equal_and_opposite to all other forms of exergy"? It's all how you define the reference. Where do you define the reference distance? 0? That produces an infinity. Infinite? Some other number? Justify the choice of that other distance. Infinity has a reference of 0 so it's the most logical choice but it causes any other distance to be negative energy. >> Typical kook behavior. Come up with some crazy idea >> and declare it the truth. True because you say so. >> On any given day there are a dozen others here doing exactly that. >You reject "The Heat Death of the Universe" >and simple thermodynamics, kook. You are the one who is coming up with crap like "evaporating gravity" and you call me a kook? I just believe in the regular laws of physics including the laws of thermodynamics, but without adding made-up physics-law-violating crap like "evaporating gravity". >> > Eventually, (nearly) everything evaporates away, including gravity. >Again, Google says: > The heat death of the universe is a historically > suggested theory of the ultimate fate of the universe > in which the universe has diminished to a state of no > thermodynamic free energy and therefore can no longer > sustain processes that consume energy (including > computation and life). Notice it does not say "Gravity evaporates". That is just crap you made up.
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Re: Riedt's monocentric universe theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 07:18 -0500
Re: Riedt's monocentric universe theory Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-08 12:09 -0700
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