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Re: Gravity/eXergy ( energy that can do work ) is dying off.

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Gravity/eXergy ( energy that can do work ) is dying off.
Date 2016-04-04 23:29 +0000
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Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>Gravity/eXergy ( energy that can do work ) is dying off.
>Eventually, the cosmos will have (near) zero density/gravity/eXergy.
>"Dark Energy" is entropy.  "Dark Matter" is unseen mass.

You're just making up crap.  The gravitational potential energy I
mentioned will exist in the gravitational fields between the galaxy
clusters.  The process of converting kinetic energy (or dark energy) to
gravitational potential energy likely does increase entropy.  But the
gravitational energy remains until extracted somehow, and that would
mean the star clusters move to a lower gravitational state.  It may
be that this energy may never be extractable/convertable, an infinitely
expanding universe.  This energy would exist for all time, barring 
something that causes the universe to collapse.

If the universe expands forever, its density does decrease on average.
The gravitational potential energy will asymptopically approach a certain
value, related to the original escape velocity from each other. Entropy
will continue to increase, or at least never decrease.

We don't know what dark energy is yet.  We just know that it seems
that "something" is accelerating the expansion of the universe.

We certainly know that gravity is not getting weaker.

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                Re: Gravity/eXergy ( energy that can do work ) is dying off. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-04 23:29 +0000
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